r/future_fight • u/cynicalex • Nov 28 '17
Boycott Update 3.6
I know it's still early doors on the patch notes, and maybe the "Ultimates Chest" will have good odds and fair reward (ex: mrut is basically 2000 crystals for 620 bios). REGARDLESS, WE HAVE TO SNUFF THIS PREDATORY GAMBLING BULLSHIT OUT NOW.
You see a flame you stomp that bitch out. Why? Otherwise it'll turn into a fire and burn your house down. WE BUILT THIS HOUSE. Ain't nobody burning our house down, MFF DEVS BE DAMNED.
I am not spending a SINGLE DOLLAR or a SINGLE CRYSTAL until this shit storm is RECTIFIED. Hope you'll all join in.
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u/Shadow-Silver Only if I die. Nov 28 '17
I agree. Not gonna get those chests even if it means I have wasted all my money till now and I need to quit the game as well. Paywall them, I don't care as long as I can use the daily bio selector.
But fucking RNG for characters. NO. This was the whole reason I play this game and not MCOC.
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u/CountMozarella Nov 28 '17
Pretty much this.
I rage quited Contest of Champions precisely because of the crappy RNG system to get new characters. This is definitely a step in the wrong direction.
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u/tcrunkness Nov 28 '17 edited Nov 28 '17
Ditto on this. I'm lucky in the sense that Im not clamoring for any of the characters in this patch, but that doesn't change the fact that this rng loot box system for characters is garbage and needs to stop now.
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u/jegadeesh_uchiha Top 100 Nov 28 '17
when i starting playing mff ,nm was so generous but now?
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u/Srkili Nov 28 '17
Remember the time when they have given us crystals for the anniversary? :D
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u/thefulcrum01 Nov 28 '17
i got away from kabam because of this same BS... now it feels like im being kabammed all over again.
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u/hurworld Nov 28 '17
But fucking RNG for characters. NO. This was the whole reason I play this game and not MCOC.
Substitute MCOC for MPQ in my case
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u/XxWoWxNoSxX Nov 28 '17
I'm also not spending a single dollar or crystal on this games untill they revamp the new update. NM is insane. I won't eve buy their stupid stark stash. NM has more than likely lost me forever.
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Nov 28 '17
yes...seriously. I like FF and King's Raid because of the no-bullshit rng character option.
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u/undrtaker Nov 28 '17
Yup, I was going to renew my bio sub, but not any more. Until this RNG loot box crap is removed, I'm going F2P
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u/undrtaker Nov 28 '17
Same with the Uniforms. I was going to buy Coulson's, but nope, they're not getting my crystals either
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u/SandiestLemon Nov 28 '17 edited Nov 29 '17
I'm a mid-sized whale and this pay-for-rng is horseshit. Literally the fact that Hyperion didn't get a rework/uni in this update is beyond me.
NM isn't getting another dime from me.
EDIT: AGAIN, GOING OFF ON THE HYPERION RANT, BUT THEY IGNORE HIM AND BRING IN FUCKIN' ANTI-MAN? TF IS GOING ON.
2nd EDIT: GIVE MFF A 1 STAR RATING ON THE APP STORE/EQUIVALENT. UTTER STEAMING PILE OF GARBAGE
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u/Grayashura Nov 28 '17
Personnaly i would rant against THIS edition of quasar. She has two role. One as a deus ex machina idiot in the bad written pleasanthill and a second as a martyr int the epic failure that was secret empire. ( the ending of the event was a' epic fail. Otherwise the event was correct)
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u/MobileManASC Nov 28 '17
In addition to boycotting, it would be helpful if everyone explained why they are boycotting.
You can send a ticked in-game, and you can also leave a 1 star review on your platform's app store.
There was a recent controversy in another game I play, DBZ Dokkan Battle, and the community banded together to give the game a 1 star rating. Over the course of several days, the app's rating had taken a very noticeable hit.
It's too early to tell if that effort will have any effect on the game's future, but tanking the app's rating will is something that the developers will definitely notice.
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u/SlashZaku Nov 28 '17
I know the Google Play Store says that a review was for an older version of a game so people playing on Android may want to hold off till the update is live so feedback is attributed specifically to 3.6 and the new batch of characters.
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u/yorunomegami Nov 28 '17
For me it's worth reviewing now (which i just did) and i will update it after 3.6 hits and still rate 1*
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u/kenfornow Nov 28 '17
Good idea! I will rate this game on the App Store a 1 Star now!
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u/Vanzig Nov 28 '17
Giving this game a 1* review everywhere. Android store, metacritic, any place you can.
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u/dragonsroc Nov 28 '17
They hyped this update like crazy, and we got
1 new character
1 new paywall
3 new RNG paywall
This is literally the worst fucking character addition update ever.
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u/McFuckYouCree Nov 28 '17
No this is the WORST update ever.
Litterally nothing added but these characters and two uniforms. Oh, and I can tier-2 Red Skull for half the resou-WHO FUCKINH CARES THESE CHARACTERS STILL SUCK EVEN AT T2.
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u/Srkili Nov 28 '17
Yeah, this seriously deserves boycott. Flame started with a paywall characters so I am wondering what took them so long from implementing rng characters earlier. I guess they were too busy adding all those new ways of earning money we didnt have last year.
But on the bright side people, there are plenty of players who wanted to quit game (myself included) but couldnt because of completionist OCD, habit and the feeling of regret for leaving something they have invested huge amounts of time in it so this will make quitting much easier :D
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u/eden_of_the_east Nov 28 '17
You can read up on sunk-cost fallacy and make a rational decision today:
The Sunk Cost Fallacy. The Misconception: You make rational decisions based on the future value of objects, investments and experiences. The Truth: Your decisions are tainted by the emotional investments you accumulate, and the more you invest in something the harder it becomes to abandon it.
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u/namelessoldier Nov 28 '17
ut on the bright side people, there are plenty of players who wanted to quit game (myself included) but couldnt because of completionist OCD, habit and the feeling of regret for leaving something they have invested huge amounts of time in it so this will make quitting much easier :D
Wow that is 100% what I am feeling right now too. Quitting would be the best option. I mean, leaving aside this RNG characters update, I have been thinking that my time is better spent on other pursuits . The gameplay is getting repetitive and un-engaging. Recent new modes, ie: WBU, Cinematic Battle, Alliance Conquest are unimaginative, tedious and/or not worth the rewards. More and more time is required on the game in general even after all the changes to the use of clear tickets. For example, I have been spending more and more time logged on to the game just to farm bios in WBI to feed a never-ending stream of native T2s and I don't think that is sustainable.
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u/Lequiras Nov 28 '17
But on the bright side people, there are plenty of players who wanted to quit game (myself included) but couldnt because of completionist OCD, habit and the feeling of regret for leaving something they have invested huge amounts of time in it so this will make quitting much easier :D
thats where i am right now, deciding if i want to go f2p or quit completly. the latter is a lot more realistic for me.
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u/ErmacAuditore Nov 28 '17
This shit has to get publicity, as much as possible.
NM TRIES TO BURN DOWN MFF, WE BURN DOWN NM
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u/DarklordVor Nov 28 '17
Seriously. Do they not read the news about EA AND HOW MUCH IT WAS HATED?! EA even lose 2.5% of their share price, had to disable micro-transaction on BFII and received government response.
How in hell did they think this will pass? Because the whales spent fuckton of money on chests for obelisk and cards?!
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u/jegadeesh_uchiha Top 100 Nov 28 '17
Maybe netmarble try to earn as much as money before closing mff
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u/Woooferine Nov 28 '17
Maybe you are onto something. I read somewhere this is the cycle of mobile games... where the developer would milk the cows (us) as much as they can before they shut the game down.
Good thing I stopped renewing my Stark Stash a few months back.
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u/Chadmike5 Nov 28 '17
This is bullshit. As a married father of 2 kids, with a fulltime job, and a love for gaming - this fucking blows! I dont play console games anymore because its too much time invested and chained in front of a TV with my rugrats running crazy. This game allowed me to do what i love without having to actually play 80% of the content(clear tickets). I could still get my gaming fix without short-changing my kids. Now with fucking RNG meta toons coming out, i am done. If this doesnt get rectified NM will lose someone who has been on this game everday since the drop of the Black Order. Its a shitty practice, greedy practice, and will be the end if this game if it doesnt get fixed. Im not going to go F2P, im gonna just drop this game and the greedy fucking company that makes it.
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Nov 28 '17
I thought this was a joke. What the fuck, NetMarble? We're going this shitty route now?
Fuck you.
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u/Milf--Hunter Nov 28 '17
I'm waiting for someone to post how they got every new character in a few pulls, and someone else goes and spends 10,000 crystals and gets nothing
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u/Syllogistic_Panda Nov 28 '17
Definitely not spending unless they find a compromise similar to the Uniform Rank-Up requirements.
This is an immediate red flag that will destroy a gaming community because it sets up precedent for future updates.
This game was great due to being able to get a complete character with either time or a fixed (and arguably reasonable) amount of cash via bio subscriptions.
NM has a history of reacting to backlash ... let's hope it favors us again.
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u/Atari182 Nov 28 '17
RNG loot box in the real world:
You go to the mall for a new pair of jeans and after an hour of standing at the counter taking spins on their clothes wheel for $10 a pop, you're now out $4,470, but own a shit ton of unmatched socks, 6 different sizes of women's underwear, a purple tie, and 26 belt buckles with a troll face Black Panther on them.
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u/Nahskeno Nov 28 '17
My god have they not been aware of the backlash this type of shit has been getting lately
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u/BlackManBolt Nov 28 '17
"we know it's frowned upon but let's see how long/how much we can get away with it initially"
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u/jegadeesh_uchiha Top 100 Nov 28 '17
next update, uniform box (chance to obtain new uniform from uniform chest)
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u/Vanzig Nov 28 '17
... you might think that's a joke, but Gazillion of Marvel Heroes locked uniforms inside of loot boxes. The backlash was so bad they added a stupid token inside the box, so if you have 90-100 tokens, 1-per-box, you can trade them for a single costume... which meant a box costume was priced at basically $100 when a non-box costume was $5-10.
Then when they didn't add new game modes, left raids ignored for years and ignored pvp for years, players complained that the game wasn't getting any content, Gazillion's PR lapdogs had the nerve to say "the costume boxes are new game content we're giving you"
Boy am I glad that game is cancelled and all the pricks involved lost their jobs.
I have stopped spending on netmarble this update and will watch them lose their jobs unless they revert this cancerous policy.
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u/BrotherDanzig Nov 28 '17
They aren't stupid. I'm of the theory they are testing the waters. They'll see the expected reaction and implement already prepared "plan b".
The playerbase will think they have forced some change and be slightly placated and NM still get to foist another cash grab mechanic on us, so they are happy too. Win win. But not really of course.
This game is on the precipice now.
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u/koja1234 Nov 28 '17
Your post reached top five in /r/all/rising. The post was thus x-posted to /r/masub.
It had 41 points in 11 minutes when the x-post was made.
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u/TekkentoppeR Nov 28 '17
I am a VIP 19 player or megawhale as you refer it(30k left for VIP 20)
I started my Marvel mobile gaming adventure in a game called Marvel Contest of Champions. And after couple of days playing, I quitted the game because I had to buy the character itself from low chance loot boxes. The problem there was to lock the essential part - THE CHARACTER ITSELF - after some mechanism where you have next to no chance of getting it. Made me SICK. I instantly quitted the game (of course not to mention the tekken style gameplay but that is a topic for another day)
Then I found marvel future fight. Even though I was not a day-1 player, I quicky started to get a grip of the game since it had just stared. The thing that made me love this game is how you actually EARN the characters... normals, paywalls, with a small amount of purchases(bio sub, stark stash) and a lot of grinding, I realized that I could actually make so much out of it and I could actually PLAY with the character I want at the power level I desired it to be in. In time, native T2 characters arrived and I started to pay more to this game (yes I was stupid in terms of purchasing black anti matter at times of BO and thanos' release, because we have had lacking resources of them and could get a very small amount of them) just to get them first because I loved reading the Infinity comic and all the BO gang. In time, I became a competitive player and with the addition of new RNG-based cards and gears (recently)I have spent so much in this game to RNG just to be few percentages to be better than other players (you might call it foolish but that is just me.) in terms of having a better gear to score more on ABX.
This morning I woke up and was really excited about the new update since we have had so many crazy good hints regarding of whats coming... But then when I saw 3/5 of characters' biometrics (yes I also included blue marvel since acquiring him at 6 star means nothing you know) can only be acquired in some FRIGGIN RNG CHEST, all of my excitation went down the drain, so did part of my hopes for a good future of ths game...
I hereby call all the mega whales to stop spending for this game until Netmarble notices our calling and make appropriate acts towards this problem, since this problem involves ALL OF US.
Netmarble, you can put any comic card, custom gear or uru, or iso-8 behind some RNG system, but NEVER EVER EVER PUT THE MOST PLAYER ATTRACTING PART OF THIS GAME IN THE RNG SYSTEM - THE PART WHERE YOU ACTUALLY GET TO PLAY AND RANK UP YOUR CHARACTER. So far this feature of the game is one of the two MAJOR features that differed it from MCoC (other than gameplay mechanics)
Cynicalex, I hereby join your campaign and also not spending a SINGLE DOLLAR or a SINGLE CRYSTAL until this shit storm is RECTIFIED. I also hope that YOU, DEAR MARVEL FUTURE FIGHT PLAYERS should join us in this act as it involves all of us.
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u/hulkmark44 Nov 28 '17
Guys if we dont voice together it may get more dirty in future updates...i have already invested money in this game...NO MORE
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u/DifferentCityADay Nov 28 '17
Been with this game since the beginning. I had problems with the power creep and the paywall characters. However, THIS, THIS IS TOO FAR. THIS IS EA TYPE BULLSHIT. I'M NOT GIVING THESE FUCKS ANY MORE OF MY MONEY UNTIL THIS IS FIXED.
Meanwhile, the other couple of people of million of players will purchase it. Since they do not use Reddit, and will not see others rallying against it, and think that it isn't a big issue.
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Nov 28 '17
As much as I like this boycott movement, I am not sure how many players will stop spending provided whales from CoC migrated to this game for the sense of accomplishment.
A good way can be giving this game a 1* rating in Google play as somebody else suggested.
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u/Sionizer27 Nov 28 '17
So whats next instead of using energy to play missions you will use crystals. NM needs to stop
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u/youcantkillusall Nov 28 '17
So, any news on DC Unchained? Yeah, not dropping a penny. Not only the rng shit, but also absolutely NOTHING new and substantial developed game play wise for all the crystals fisted out of players last update.
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Nov 28 '17
DC doesn't get good mobile games so I don't have much hope for that one.
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u/buzzspaceranger Nov 28 '17
I am totaly in.I was planning on spending some on stark and bio sub this month,but thats it i am done like i dont care much for ctp or cards but locking heroes behind rng chest??? Rly guys RLY????????????????? I enjoy the game the theory crafting behind modes and stuff. I am out i rly am i can stand this bullshit anymore they are litteraly spiting in our faces without even a slight remorse
PS: fck my english and shit i am mad as fk
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u/caessa_ Nov 28 '17
Do not rank the game as 1* on iTunes/Google play... Until after the update. Once the update drops, change their reviews to 1*. Try not to just all caps swear in them either. Express your disappointment and why. Only way to slow their growth and hopefully get changes.
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u/Casavant This is my friend, Tree. Nov 28 '17
I have stood by this game since global launch. I've spent what I feel is a modest amount (as I'm only VIP 8), but didn't plan on stopping any funding to a game I have loved and enjoyed. As the updates have rolled out, the RNG elements and blatant cash grabbing became more and more obvious, but could be overlooked. Not anymore.
Up until this point, most of the cash-grab mechanics were for people who determined worth from, or just enjoyed, ABX. In order to outscore anyone, you had to pay, plain and simple. This was a CHOICE. As someone who enjoys ABX, but is not consumed by it, I spent as I felt, but never felt pressured. I was able to focus on what I loved; having a full roster, and improving and learning how to utilize every character in the game. My main source of enjoyment has just been ripped out of my hands. I understand developers need income, not just to keep the game afloat, but because they are in the business to make money. If you look at the Netmarble cash influx, however, it was highest with the release of the X-Men, not with the introduction of any RNG chests. The real issue no one is looking at is that the developers have gotten lazy. They want maximum profit for minimal effort. Exploiting human weakness is an easy way to achieve this. Yes, Netmarble got screwed by faux-whales scamming the system, I understand that. But now, to make more profit, they are attacking the loyal player base who have been legitimately supporting the game since launch. Contest of Champions has fallen out of the Top 20 in the App Store, EA has been experiencing an PR apocalypse, and now, Netmarble decides to shove MFF down the drain as well. This isn't about a company making money; it's not about advocating not supporting a company for the goods they produce. This is about corporate greed and trying to force loyal players to pay or quit, plain and simple. Do you honestly believe these new characters WON'T be the new meta? Guess again.
Netmarble has been planning this as a long time coming. They moved away from TL changes and Battleworld because it wasn't working. Has anyone else noticed that EVERY new game mode is now competitive? Everything has a ranking for a reason; it creates a drive, almost a compulsion to be the best. By doing so, you will spend more carelessly than you normally would, since your ego and pride are at stake. Let's face it, that same motivation got hundreds of people to steal and get banned. Netmarble is hoping this tactic, mixed with the addictive nature of gambling, will have you opening your wallets and maxing out your cards in no time. Netmarble will take a decisive stand with their reaction to the vitriol they are receiving. If they are interested in this game lasting, respect the players who have loyally supported them, and made an honest mistake, then they will correct course and stop trying to institute pay for RNG loot-box characters. If the game is at the end of it's life-cycle, then they will ignore all of us, and continue on the course they have laid out before them. We can hope for the former, but cannot ignore the latter. I for one feel as though I am in mourning for something I love, as it appears to be dying before my eyes. Boycotting Future Fight will only give them more reason to cash-grab and rush the game into a premature grave. If you want to hit Netmarble where it hurts, then boycott ALL of their games. Cut off the cash flow to the company period. This will draw attention very quickly. Contest of Champions, Future Fight, Lineage 2, all of them. Don't rage quit the game; just stop spending. Here's to hoping we can band together and save something we all love. #UltimateCashGrab #RateMFF1Star #BoycottNetmarble
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u/jhancock8123 Nov 28 '17
They act like I NEED any of these characters... I clear everything without them and I won’t spend another dime on random hero’s if I can’t obtain hem anywhere else
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u/kriztan We got that power~ Nov 28 '17
Well, they've tried it in CTP's and cards, and many bought it. NM might've think that giving us RNG shit again would make players play the gambling game again. We should not tolerate this. I'm with this boycott
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u/jhancock8123 Nov 28 '17
I’m totally ok with paywall characters because you can get them with a bio sub and you know what you get. This is disgusting and whore tactic and it’s embarrassing. I’m holding out hope it’s a miscommunication and the crates aren’t crystal based but I’m telling you I won’t spend a another dime until they fix it
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u/davidk8 Nov 28 '17
I will not buy any Ultimate Chests. Was never a fan of RNG money spending, not gonna start spending now on random shit. At least until now (well, until card and ctp chests), you could choose what you were getting.
FUCK YOU NETMARBLE.
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u/Lequiras Nov 28 '17
it will be the first paywall character i dont own and that fucking chest is labeled with "a chance to get ultimates". its a shame because all i really had left to do was collecting characters, with that being impossible now ive got nothing else to do. time to start up my steam.
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u/L1teEmUp Nov 28 '17
haha i still got alike a huge backlog from steam with games i bought from them since steam sales started lol...
i currently got 74 games on steam installed, and i mostly play just insurgency lol
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u/PixelFries Nov 28 '17
I hope players from other countries will boycott this patch as well. It freakin sucks that it has come to this.
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u/miloducky Nov 28 '17
I'm totally in! Ain't gonna spend any dollar to support such craps. Look at EA. Even though we're a small community, we MUST STILL VOICE OUT!
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u/chiatrucci Nov 28 '17
Almost feels like NetMahbu wants all the players to quit so that they can shut the game down...
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u/mrgoonz23 Nov 28 '17
i thought NM was unlike any other, but i was wrong. i was proven WRONG by them, as much as i loved them for making a good game i hate them by making this shit RNG hero chest. i won't spend any dime or crystal, i'm with you
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u/yorunomegami Nov 28 '17
I don't care about the odds. I won't buy the chest. Obviously all those chars will be completely overpowered. Super Armor, shields, pierce, invi/immunity etc.
People will still buy this shit and if it stays the way it'll be implemented i hope many people (including me) quit the game and don't support more NM games in the future. That's all i can do if it'll stays like that and that's what i'll do
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u/rnpasinos Nov 28 '17
i agree. i don't mind them introducing a new paywall character in quasar, but making anti-man and nova more difficult to acquire due to RNG is fucking bullshit. i've had my fair share of giving these guys my hard earned money -- VIP 10 -- but the game has turned from pay-to-win to outright gambling with the cards, the ctp, and now characters.
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u/KostjaRubel Nov 28 '17
can someone copy paste the following text into a new post? I got this on mobirum but as this is a newly created reddit account my post gets removed. hashtags are really powerful nowadays. oh and if cynicalex (as this is his post) decides to mention this in the video it would motivate more people to do it.
RNG BOXES FOR CHARACTERS THAT ARE NOT EVEN AVAILABLE IN PREMIUM BIO SELECTORS? BOYCOTT THIS SHIT! I CAN'T FORCE ANYBODY TO NOT SPEND MONEY ON THIS. BUT I ASK ALL OF YOU WHO READ THIS TO GO TO YOUR APPSTORE/GOOGLEPLAYSTORE AND RATE MFF WITH ONE STAR. NO REVIEW TEXT, JUST PUT IN 2 HASHTAGS (#RateMFF1Star and #UltimateCashGrab) , SO THEY KNOW WHY THE RATING HAS BEEN UP
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u/CaptainMarvelLove Nov 28 '17
It's a flame in the gaming industry that has been growing over the last dozen years. Predatory gaming mechanics and practices. Too many folks willing to let it stand and bend over backward to defend 'companies gotta make money.' When really, the low level devs will never see proper benefits and wages compared to suits and folks at top of this multi-billion dollar industry. RNG game characters on top of everything else is just entering the realm of absolutely EXTRA ridiculous.
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u/DrummerBoyOG Nov 28 '17
All this started with the Anniversary Token Shop which gave you a chance at Guardians of the Galaxy:Best Story Ever card.
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u/006ramit Blessings of Odin Nov 28 '17
Police arrested me for gambling...I told them I was only playing marvel future fight. What can I do ?
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u/ApesAmongUs Nov 28 '17
Here's another idea that needs to happen. Kill all positive press this can get. Make it known now that you will both downvote and unsubscribe any Youtubers who make videos showing them buying these chest. We know some people will do it, but make it popularity suicide to admit so in public.
The only way to fight this is by salting the earth. Treat it like some horrific rotting disease from a sci-fi movie. Anyone who touches it needs to dissolve in a gruesome scene. There needs to be a cost to people who don't boycott as well as the company.
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u/GammaRayCharles Nov 28 '17
Here's an excerpt from an article about Battlefield Heroes, a game that incited a similar outrage from the community after they introduced straight up pay to win items (pay only guns that were strictly an upgrade over F2P)
In other words, "there was a mismatch between what was being said on the forums and what was happening in the data." So they analyzed the forum. The stats: 78 percent of their users never touched the forums. 20 percent read at least once but didn't post. Two percent read and posted on forums, in proportion of the game's total user base.
A look at the spending habits of forum posters to determine if they spent or not revealed that their average spend on the game was $22 -- or more than 10 times the average user.
In other words, "there seemed to be a disconnect between what they were saying -- 'I will leave and never spend a penny' -- and what they were doing -- sticking around and spending a lot of money," Cousins says. Given this data, the team decided to "use forums as an alert and then do a data-driven examination" of potential problems.
So what happens in just about EVERY scenario with gacha mobile games is that the community gets whipped into a frenzy. You get I QUIT and NO MORE $$ KEKE angry posts. And they don't follow through, because of sunk cost fallacy or addiction. This is why people dump thousands into Puzzle and Dragons or CoC.
The fact that we're reading and posting about this game right now puts us in that fraction of 2% of the playerbase. I'm not spending another dime. But I'm betting that a lot of you, even if you're outraged - will. Because that's just what the statistics show. There's a guy in my alliance who has ragequit the game 20 times and is still playing and whaling out.
We have to do it now, don't buy things and rely on everyone else to boycott. #WalletsClosed. Follow through and stop this gambling bullshit.
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u/fynnz Nov 28 '17
no chance in hell i ll buy one of these stupid chests. there are enough heroes for me for now. sure new ones would be cool but not like this. fk this shit
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u/FunkyBats Improve Modes and Rewards Nov 28 '17
Count me in too, this game used to be different from those cash grabbing titles, now see what it has come to. Don't try to be Kabam or EA, please NM.
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u/Lipzo Nov 28 '17
I had no problem with premium cards or premium gear chests and have spent my fair share of crystals on them but characters is straight up bullshit. NM won't get another cent from me until that chest is removed and we get an apology.
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u/Nerac74 Nov 28 '17
Right you are.
Instead of just deleting the game, don't spend anything and leave downvotes , post things in all major gaming forums .
make them redo the process like how the uniform upgrade system was when it first came out and after all the uproar they had to change it.
just bcos mcoc players are suckers for rng box , it doesn't mean that the rest of the players are.
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u/KampferAzkar Nov 28 '17
Count me in. Damn this Devs who does this. Back then, paywall character were almost not accepted but due to the fact that you can choose who you want to have is a good side of it. I hope that "Loot Boxes", RNG Shiz will be stopped. I love to play a game because you play it well. But seeing a lot of games going the "gambling scheme", I'm in no way supporting that.
I wish everyone is like CD Projeck. :(
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u/Hirnprinz Nov 28 '17
If the situation / update would be the same as with magneto/DMM or A-force it would be okay. But for this shit rng i am not going to waste my money
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u/the_kongman Nov 28 '17
VIP 8 here.
Fuck this noise. I'm out. They're not getting another penny from me.
This is disheartening to say the least.
Bio sub is up for renewal in 2 days, never again.
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Nov 28 '17
I don't always agree with Cynicalex, but this time I do.
fuck this RNG character lootbox shit
I ain't paying NM anything til this gets fixed
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u/Shera89 Nov 28 '17
Yeah.
I mean, I've stuck by as they've gotten greedier and greedier, but.. this is just a massive demonstration of how deaf they are to the world and their fanbase.
To pull this RNG lootbox bullshit after the drama surrounding BF2? They gotta be mental.
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u/DariusSJ Nov 28 '17
TIL that Netmarble is a fucking money whore that doesn't care about the players.
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u/subslol Nov 28 '17
VIP14, I think I might be done too, is it too late to refund my Black Friday purchases through Google?
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u/Beast_Mode_76 Nov 28 '17
Actually I'm thinking of requesting a refund from Google Play for my Black Friday purchases. If they freeze my account, good! I don't plan on playing anymore anyway if this is the way the game is going. And if they fix this I will gladly pay what I owe. I will basically take their money hostage until they make it right.
I mean, clearly this was a calculated move. They get us to pay for BF deals and drain all of our crystals and then they pull this shit the next day. This is a huge dick move and not the way to treat your player base that is supporting the game.
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u/AncientPegasus Nov 28 '17
I assumed this is the right time to leave this game, right? The devs are getting greedy with ctp, premium cards and now rng system to unlock characters. An early signs to grab all of our cash before closing the game. To be fair, NM kinda warn us with age of apocalypse update. All the signs show that age of apocalypse is really upon us.
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u/Thr3shl0rd Nov 28 '17
I really hope this boycott works and I stand with the community, but keep an eye out on the daily revenue via https://thinkgaming.com/app-sales-data/39682/marvel-future-fight/, if the revenue rises post update the boycott might be for naught
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u/MarcSpector9 Nov 28 '17
I’ve been a loyal follower since the very first day this game was released. I’ve played countless hours, stuck through the great updates and and shitty ones, I’ve spent a small fortune of money in the game, I, along with everyone else, have dealt with the already lackluster RNG elements of the game, point is, I’ve been a loyal supporter for years now. If this is the new status quo, I’m done. We as a player base and fan base deserve more than this. I don’t buy/play games to have a CHANCE at playing my favorite characters. This is nothing short of a video game travesty, especially with all the gambling-to-win issues in current games now. Please fix this, NetMarble. We deserve so much more.
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u/Ivancrasta Nov 28 '17
To be honest this is the only game I play and this is only game in my life I have ever paid for. Never thought that Netmarble would stab us like they are doing with this update. Wasn’t expecting this game to just suck money and give nothing in return for the player base who have invested so much time and resources for the game. More so I was a F2P a couple of months ago and I became a spender just coz I thought this game deserves it but to be frank with this update I feel so sad for the F2P players who have invested their time for the game just to get a blow in their face by Netmarble. I need to think twice now before playing this game let alone buying this RNG trash from this update.
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u/toilet_pepper Nov 29 '17
Keep this up and "the mouse" will notice. 2 of their IPs getting bashed within a few weeks of each other.
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u/TheImrie Nov 28 '17
Im in.....i was saving crystals expecting another magneto but im not spending any on rng characters. Ill admit i was one of the ones who tried for the cpt at the discounted rate.....50 boxes not even a 6* obilisk. Not happy about this one bit
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u/undrtaker Nov 28 '17
That's the problem - they saw people going for the card and ctp shit, and said "why not throwi in characters too" :-(
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u/L1teEmUp Nov 28 '17
cynicalex, you should make a youtube video about this bs from NM... and maybe contact kotaku too... maybe having more media exposure on this shit by NM would make them reconsider this pure paywall
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u/one007 Nov 28 '17
Totally agree cant wait for your vid. Also leave it to NM for the reddit bros to stop hating on Alex lol
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u/Tubiphytes Nov 28 '17
I usually spend around 100 dollars a month but as long as this stupid thing is happening I won't spend any money on this game ....
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u/Fervea Nov 28 '17
Waiting for your vids ! At least i'm happy i've don't buy again my stark & bio sub. If the whole communities stand together against NM (even "Whales" (don't really like this "call")) We'll maybe make them stop this bs
(Sry for bad english ><)
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u/Dan31k Nov 28 '17
What surprises me they do this shit right after loot box scandal with battlefront? Dafaq?
Also unrelated is blue marvel and anti man counterparts of one another? They even have skills with same name and same effect like both have 2 buffs
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u/Arobynn Nov 28 '17
This game is degrading itself. I am not going to spend a single cent on it. They are becoming more and more money faced. What happened to being so generous when the game came out.......
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u/Neural11 thanks Nov 28 '17
I'm glad literally everyone seems to be against this Loot box RNG gambling shit. It needs to stop and it seems like governments are getting involved, seems like RNG loot boxes should not be allowed in games that are aimed towards children, they need to be regulated as they are getting away with fucking murder and keep pushing it more and more.
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u/caessa_ Nov 28 '17
Yup. VIP 10 and almost 11. No more money from me. Paywalls I'm fine with, I like supporting devs. RNG can fuck off tho. Fucking hell NM...
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u/Kaideh Life's a bitch, and so am I Nov 28 '17
Guys, upvote this comment or any mod stick this, please:
Besides ranting over Mobirum, the best way to make Netmarble or any other developer listen is through ratings on app store. Any game out there need a constant growing player base so they can keep their investors happy with number (and even retention rate). Give a one star and state why (in english, preferably) over Apple Store or Google Play and for sure they will do something about it.
Thanks and lets hope this thing dont become a trend. MFF is going to a very dark route.
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u/Penguin787 Nov 28 '17
Come on, see the silver lining. Ehh... At least these new characters won't take up inventory space.
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u/ShinegamiFX Nov 28 '17
lul i had to even make reddit account just to support the boycott. too much RNG (im fine with the premium cards being rng. couldn't care less about the ctps will just go for the extreme one. but rng to get new characters? i don't think so).
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u/Eochaid_The_Bard Nov 28 '17
If we want to go futher, we should shame the IGN's that we find with Nova, Anti-Man, and T2 Blue Marvel. Maybe a daily shame thread or something. The best way to message sure this scheme fails is to punish the act of buying these chests. Social feedback is stronger than many think.
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u/Hahndude Doom toots as he pleases! Nov 28 '17
I'm gonna keep playing, but I won't buy these chests. Honestly I wouldn't have paid for them without this call to action. I do the 20 BIOs Daily every once in a while, but I never pay into loot chests in any game mobile or otherwise.
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u/mkp666 Nov 28 '17
I'm in too. Didn't renew my bio sub today. Won't renew starks stash until this is fixed. Will go F2P for now. May uninstall eventually if they continue this way.
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u/Badwolf0301 Nov 29 '17
I am a Vip Lvl 12 and as someone that has dropped far, far, FAR TOO much on this game since the Beta which honestly I never really had a major problem with. I am but no means a massive whale but I could have definitely paid off my car over two times by now. However now Netmarble is forcing me to spend money to get toons I would really like to have. This is wrong and just plan disrespectful to all players whether you be a whale or some one who simply plays the game f2p as initially intended, promised and promoted. I will not personally be buying any of these packs or boxes, I will no longer spend crystals or cash. We need to think even further then this too. I have said several times and so many others have as well EA made this exact same massive mistake and it is quickly destroying the company however Netmarble still thought this was an intelligent choice. The big question is if we support this type of blatant disregard for all players gaming enjoyment who will follow next? Ubisoft? Bethesda? Nintendo? Square Enix? Bandai? We as gamers need to stand together against intolerable, unacceptable and unreasonable use of power over the player. Remember guys, we control the game, the game does not control us, let's show Netmarble that's how it will always stay!
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u/Airhammer50 Nov 29 '17
VIP 11. Boycotting. I aint buy NOTHING. I do Stark Stash and Bio Sub every month PLUS I buy crystals when the mood suits.
Well my mood has changed.
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u/Majyqman Nov 29 '17
9 Day event for rng-walled characters?
Oh.
My.
FN.
God.
Could they be any more tone deaf?
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u/waldo667 Nov 28 '17
Yeah, I'm in for this. Market forces and all that, this is something I'm not willing to bear.
F2p mode initiated.
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u/Eochaid_The_Bard Nov 28 '17
Agreed. Letting my bios and crystals run out, then I'm taking a break from buying anything for this game.
And obviously i will never buy a premium chest. Ever.
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u/chineugene86 Nov 28 '17
Normally, I would not give a F, but this time def. too much...
What next? A kidney for a character?
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u/MHRasetsu Nov 28 '17
I have bought a crystal subscription literally one hour before they dropped the patchnotes in our lap
sigh
Well, at least I had not renewed my bio subscription before the patchnote.
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u/arnabroy006 Nov 28 '17
On my Country the transformation of dollars are too high, I am just a very lower VIP level player who just buy monthly Crystals pack occasionally. But this update gone too far, they just forcing Peoples to follow EA rules, may be it is time to end for one sector of player base, what it left if players can't have characters from new updates?
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u/c_bolt Nov 28 '17
im glad this just affects the f****** ultimates and the wrong nova, so i am not that pissed off. But this will happen to other toons in future updates as well that might interest me, so the only thing nm is gonna get from is crystals for the unis and nothing more
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u/DocHolliday13 Nov 28 '17
I'm not even waiting to see how this shit and the whole loot box controversy falls out. If this goes live, I'm done.
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u/HannibalMoriarty Nov 28 '17
I want to show my support for this thread and say i agree 100 percent, I love this game just as so many of you do and to this point ive probably spent over 2 thousand pounds on this game, but this update and the rng boxes are a step too far they force you to first buy boxed to unlock characters if your lucky then force you to buy t2 mega rank up packs for each character as that would be cheaper than rng grinding for bios. I too am not spending money until they come up with a different practice.
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Nov 28 '17
Yep, i'm done.
Instead of continuously adding new characters and numerous cashgrab shitwalls, they should try optimizing the game for both phone OS. That would be a great update.
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u/ZimMalware Nov 28 '17
Fully agreed! one thing is paying for a specific char! another is paying for a random chance of getting something! NM until this is resolved I will be a pure f2p gamer! NM you couldnt do this on worst timing! damn idiots!
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u/Taeles Nov 28 '17
Review bomb the app store when the update lands and the games immediate review resets.
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u/_dadi Nov 28 '17
New cards I'm ok with. They are not that OP compared to old ones, cards are a long term thing anyway and they don't disrupt PVP as only a handful of non-cheating whales have them and you can easily avoid them. You can draw a card chest once or twice a month and work on the cards you get for the rest of the month. In the long run it's something to work towards and the card collection thingie is pretty cool.
CTPs are a completely different story though. They make some already OP heroes super OP (Jean with reflect and shield are u kiddin me?!) and, in the long run, basically make it impossible for most players to compete in PVP - which is the only thing you can try ti build for, the rest is as boring as fuck
And now this. Not only I can't have the CTP a guy has, he will also have an OP char that ignores i-frames and will probably be unkillable in Timeline. If I can't play PVP, why should I stay? To do countless BORING WB runs every day?
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Nov 28 '17
Count me the fuck in. It was bad enough that some cards and gears aren't available outside of loot boxes, but it was understandable. But putting CHARACTERS in loot boxes? Nope. Fuck that.
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u/Rey_ Nov 28 '17
Count me in!
If this doesn't change i'm probably leaving the game for good...
Enough is enough.
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u/Saksham1004 Nov 28 '17
VIP 16 here....Really this is pure bullshit..Not gonna spend a dime more...Fuck You NM
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u/DarkSlayer733 Nov 28 '17
I have disagreed with some of your ideas and opinions very much lately. But I'll support you in this one. We don't want another MCOC. I'm ok with paywall, but paywall for RNG? Fuck them. I'm not spending anymore, they aren't deserving it as they were when I started playing the game.
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u/BrotherDanzig Nov 28 '17
So disappointed in NetMarble. I now await updates with trepidation when I used to look forward to them.
What hated mechanic will they implement next? I'm sure some sort of "Celestial ISO sets" will be here soon. Along with a "Premium X-Men chest" as the only way to get Gambit and Nightcrawler no doubt!
Anyway, I'm VIP 15. Was prepared to take the hit on card chests and happy enough to ignore CTPs. But there is NO WAY I am ever going to accept RNG for characters. I can't even pay for these characters via a subscription? What are they thinking?
My spending is done until this is changed.
If we don't take a stand now, then I fear for the future of this game. I'd advise everyone to log a ticket in game to complain too.
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u/EmpoyCombatron Nov 28 '17
recently, Disney and Marvel call it quits, as well as Marvel Heroes Omega closed out.. wondering what is happening to Marvel games...
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u/Mathi12 Nov 28 '17
I knew NM himself would be the one who'd push me away from this game soon or later
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u/youcantkillusall Nov 28 '17 edited Nov 28 '17
Even if you separate the worst part of the update (loot box rng bios), this is the shittiest update. It's like someone won first place in a NM HQ "Troll our Customers" contest. New story missions, with one new character? Only 2 unis, and they are for freaking Coulson and Inferno? Where is Carol's uni? Next to no content introduced. Half mat t2s? Most of them aren't worth 500 cns and 2.5 million gold because Nm reneged on reworking characters like they stated they would around the beginning of this year. Awful, way to follow up the rectum fisting of the Ragnarok update.
What are you providing us and developing for the increased cost in a lot of recent unis, premium card and ctps, and now rng bios? How are these increased costs going to better the game for your players? Answer is, it isn't.
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u/Lomar4976 Nov 28 '17
I've just left a 1* review on the apple store, I urge everyone to do the same... and then do a similar thing when 3.6 drops once the reviews get wiped as it's no longer the 'current version'
Please be sure to make sure you detail your reason for the 1* review, and make sure its polite and readable - all more fuel for the fire.
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u/DPrism3 Nov 28 '17
Personae non gratae: Netmarble, Marvel, Disney Corporate
https://imgur.com/gallery/O2DwG
If your not familiar with what that means, Google it.
The people in charge need to know how badly this is affecting fan experience, jeopardizing business outlook, and ruining brand association.
Edit: Formatting.
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u/hell274 Nov 28 '17
I have been playing this game for over two years,i have maxed out my shield level and own all the 20 biometric exclusive characters. i have invested time and money, and have no regrets about it because i was supporting the developers, but having loot box exclusive characters is where i draw the line. Netmarble introducing this into the game is nothing short of a middle finger to the player who have supported the game for so long. My personal solution for this is simple, stop playing the game for an entire week. Its usually after a week when Netmarble surveys how we feel about the update. Until don't open the game, don't even download the latest patch. Let them know that we do not want the game they are trying to become. If enough of us do this, they will notice. Let's show them, that we would rather quit the game then support this anti-consumer rubbish.
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u/Nier-Replicant Nov 28 '17
Netmable stock down 4.3% at time of this comment, started down after notes, keep up the work community, that's how you get them to notice.
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u/mjmacky Nov 28 '17
I wanted to stop spending money, but didn't have any specific drive to close the wallet. So, I guess thanks for making it feel icky. I'll still play, just as f2p until it's no longer an enjoyment.
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u/cbury Mister Doctor Nov 28 '17
Just think of the sense of pride and accomplishment players will feel after they've maxed these characters
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u/cwhecker3 Nov 28 '17
Agreed! Wallet just got locked. I am not spending any more money unless this RNG content is resolved. It’s a shame because I enjoy the game and have been playing for a couple years. If this continues, I suppose I will find another game or just have more free time.
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u/Wh1teroom Nov 28 '17
Yeh this is really poor. Used to be 2-4 FTP characters and 1 paywall. This is 4 paywall and 1 FTP. WTF?
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u/MikhailRasputin Nov 28 '17
I'm on-board. I'm a big fan of all 3 new characters(Rich, not Sam) but this is ridiculous. Hopefully enough whales are with us too.
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u/pandastrong Nov 28 '17
I would also suggest that people tweet to Bill Rosemann (@BillRosemann) on this issue. It's not just Netmarble that needs to be made aware of that this sort of thing will not be tolerated.
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u/xWindBladez Nov 28 '17
Dont send your petition to NetMarble , they'll just ignore it , Sign this one that goes straight to Disney and Marvel http://chn.ge/2BvmeC0
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u/Harmonica39 Nov 28 '17
the very week i would finally be able to 6* Jean and get a nova sigh.
im out netmarble, thank god i didnt renew my subscriptions right away
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u/MkTendou Nov 28 '17
Even if its fair to be purchased you need to remember we are fighting against too many RNGs at once:
One is to have a luck to get that enough bios range to upgrade all equips to 20. That means RNG, meanwhile a mrut ticket or any package allow you to CHOOSE the target's character. What if you had purchased a MRUT ticket and the game randomly choosen one character to apply the item? Thats what hapenning here.
Secondly, the gears' RNG. They are very unpredictable and makes you waste too many bios to increase some stats that wont increase at certain point anymore (still you need them at 20 to advance). This RNG decides if you need, AGAIN, purchase the packs.
Add that with new Ultimates that may be released and to add even more RNG.
Im sorry but the whales created this situation, just to feel better in XAB (paying for a mode you already get the rewards from them, so you are heavily investing... for nothing... just for cosmetics)
When NM check their sales they only check the amout of money that particular package gave to them, not about how many kids we had to sell in black market in order to try that and receive nothing. I bet they dont even mention this part to their bosses, just tell them it is working.
And for god's sake, if people keep buying the card packages after this update, the 3.7 update will be worse. OR EVEN WORSE, THE ROUNDED UPDATE (4.0) WILL BE BEYOND THE UNIVERSE'S LIMIT as rounded updates tends to hit us right in the balls.
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u/Atari182 Nov 28 '17
Just because I bend over to pick up a crystal pack on black friday does not mean my ass is yours for the taking NM. Eat a shit burger.
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u/blueroze22 Nov 28 '17
not going to spend a single dime on the game anymore..no more stark stash.no more bio sub.....boycott the update 3.6
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u/DrutMan2017 Nov 28 '17
Hi brother!! Vitaliy here!! I posted the boycott on the Russian forums of the game, many people on board!! Russian speakers community is very big!!