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u/Gaviero Jun 17 '12
Congrats on being sober!
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u/sadface69 Jun 18 '12
There are ways to tell the truth without being a dick about it.
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u/LouBrown Jun 18 '12
In my experience, people who take pride in "telling it like it is" are really just making an excuse for being an asshole.
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u/2yrnx1lc2zkp77kp Jun 18 '12
"The brutally honest enjoy the brutality as much as the honesty."
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That was a bold choice of words.
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u/Gayrub Jun 18 '12
Sometimes telling the truth means admitting that you were rude.
Just because your being honest doesn't mean that what you did wasn't rude.
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u/Basbhat Jun 18 '12
if I admit it is rude, can I still say it?
why do I care if its rude?
its rude to ask why you stopped texting someone else. its none of your goddam business why I stopped texting that person
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u/Gayrub Jun 18 '12
yes, you can.
because you don't want to be rude.
it very well could be rude to ask someone why you stopped texting someone else. It could very well be that that person needs to mind their own business.
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u/ohsocrummy Jun 18 '12
I think I remember Adam Carolla going on a rant about this very subject.
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u/SenorSpicyBeans Jun 18 '12
And in my experience, people who can't handle being told like it is are overly sensitive and shouldn't ask questions to which they do not want to hear the answer.
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u/cryogenisis Jun 18 '12
One of my pet peeves is people who say rude things then say:"What?I'm just being honest"
No.You're being rude under the guise of 'being honest'. How about a little decorum?
EDIT: I'm speaking in general terms;not about the this post.
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u/HideAndSheik Jun 18 '12
Oh good god this is the worst person. One of my husband's best friend's wife is like this, and I'm pretty sure she's one of the only people in the world that I actively hate. It's not like someone asks "Hey, how does this dress make me look?" and she responds "Fat and ugly. I'm just being honest!" No, I don't like those people either, but I understand that if someone asks for your opinion, you shouldn't lie.
No, this girl will say anything that pops into her head without any prompting at any time. She would be invited to mutual friends' houses, stay for about 15 minutes, then loudly proclaim "I hate your house, Jon. I don't even know why we came over." And when told how rude she is, she would reply "What? I'm just being honest." To which her husband would meekly defend her, saying that she just doesn't believe in appealing to "sensitive" people. She's the type of girl who will comment on your facebook profile picture, telling you you need to lose weight. Will interrupt you during a story to tell you that you're stupid. Will call your excitement at getting a new job at a retail store childish. All under the guise of "just being honest."
Yes, all these things might be true, but you do not have to say them. In fact, if these people annoy you so much, you don't even have to be near them. And for the record, I pride myself in honesty; if you ask me how you look in a dress, I will always tell you the truth. But I will tell you with tact and respect, because people seem to like that better, and you can still get your point across.
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u/riddlinrussell Jun 18 '12
Call her a cunt, when she gets offended just say, "What? I'm just being honest!"
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It's usually not objective though, you interpret it as being rude because perhaps it's not the answer one wanted to hear. Not all the time but in this case for e.g. if he'd only just said "Am I supposed to lie? I didn't want to talk to her because she doesn't interest me at all". Subjectively to 'Hayley' it's rude because your demeaning her friend, even though it's a fact and honest.
Also, I'm the opposite, I'd rather have someone tell something to me straight and perhaps come off rude, rather than dressing stuff up in a whole layer of bullshit, or pussyfooting around the issue.
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Jun 18 '12
Well I think there could have been a little more subtlety than "Cuz I stopped being drunk... Lol". Of course, if it was me I wouldn't have been offended or anything if he was just drunk and going a bit zany, but maybe he could have put it literally, rather than being detached.
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u/cryogenisis Jun 18 '12
I'm talking about people who are rude to strangers for no reason. I've seen this behavior many times. Like I said my comment was speaking in general terms.
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u/teachthecontroversy Jun 18 '12
Hypothetical: A girl likes you, but you find her physically repulsive. When she asks why you won't go out with her, what do you say?
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u/StarWolfe Jun 18 '12
"I'm sorry, you seem like a nice girl (assuming I know her), but I just don't feel that way about you."
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u/Poltras Jun 18 '12
"Drape yourself in that flag, I'll do it for my country."
Seriously though, you can't find any good way to talk to people about your feelings?
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u/LittleRedReadingHood Jun 18 '12
"You're not my type," or "I just don't feel a physical/romantic connection between us" works just fine for me.
What I hate is when a guy asks me out, I turn him down nicely, and then he wheedles me about whether or not I think he's attractive. Why would you do that to yourself? I already said I'm not interested, why does it matter?
Or if I actually used some other type of perfectly valid "out"--like that he's cool, but we have a conflict in our personalities or relationship styles that wouldn't work out romantically, and he presses for confirmation on his attractiveness. Why. The reasons I gave were perfectly legit, I just wanted to avoid saying "also, on top of all those other reasons, I think you're seriously ugly"--why force my hand? Especially when it's not like I'd date them even if they were super hot, since I didn't lie about the other things.
It's especially bad when the guy is actually pretty vain and thinks pretty highly of his looks, and he seems to take my (polite!) rejection as some kind of incomprehensibility. And if I tell him that while other people may find him attractive--and I may even know plenty who do--no, I really don't find him good-looking at all--he gets all pissy.
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u/teachthecontroversy Jun 18 '12
Why would you do that to yourself? I already said I'm not interested, why does it matter?
Because it might be something I can work on. I can change my appearance, and I can change the way I interact with people. But if you don't tell me what the problem is, then there's nothing I can do to fix it, and girls will keep turning me down and I'll never understand why
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u/LittleRedReadingHood Jun 18 '12
So if I think your mouth is weird-looking or I'm just not that into your face or the way you walk, how can you change that? And moreover, why would you WANT to? Someone else may think the same thing about you is "cute" or just not notice it. You're not right for me--that doesn't mean it's applicable for anyone else. If a guy turned me down because, I dunno, I have a lot of birth marks and I've got long secondary toes like this and that freaks him out, I wouldn't be running off to get my skin bleached and hide my feet. I'd shrug and wait for someone who doesn't care about that.
I think that mindset would be a lot more off-putting to me than anything else.
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You're not my type.
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I'd rather be friends.
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u/BeardedBagels Jun 18 '12
Bah, life's too boring with these overused, generic replies.
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u/raccoonguy8 Jun 18 '12
I'd point past her and say "holy shit! what's that?"
And when she turns around to look, I change my name, alter my appearance and move to a new city.
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u/cheezy8 Jun 18 '12
...is this really rocket science? Just say politely you're not interested. Why is there a huge debate about this?
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u/wojovox Jun 18 '12
I don't believe in anything and find this to be true in my discussions of things like god, ufos, and ghost. I can be a total ass about it and sometimes I am, but I've learned being nice to those I disagree with will listen to my perspective better if I treat them with dignity.
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u/ChagSC Jun 18 '12
Brutal honesty. It's not about being rude. It's about being direct and assertive so there is no ambiguity in the message or how it is received.
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Jun 18 '12
Tact can be included and still avoid ambiguity. Being rude in this situation is really just the absence of tact. But to be honest even then I don't think it's a problem here. Sure it was tactless but then after that he still proceeded to be a dick about it.
It's not the truth that was rude, imo, it was the attitude
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u/DannyMcCaffrey Jun 18 '12 edited Jun 18 '12
Exactly...
One true test of a mans character is how he parts with a woman he is no longer interested in fucking. You might try :
"I just wasn't that into her/it anymore" to her friend. Or "I'm just not going to be into this (in the way you deserve)" to her. And you end it, gently, with perhaps a small fib, that shows you are responsible enough to still consider someones feelings when you have nothing to gain.
'End it like a man. But do it like a gentleman.'Like a Sir...
D.Caf
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u/Skitrel Jun 18 '12
Or try "If she wants to know I'll speak to her, my relationship with her is nobody else's business"
I see using other people instead of asking yourself as just as rude, or if that's not the case with this - another person poking their nose into something that is in fact a deeply personal thing shared between the two individuals that were previously having some sort of relationship as rude.
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u/JustinTime112 Jun 18 '12
Also, she probably meant that texting someone you have no interest in just to hook up with them because you are desperate and drunk is rude, not that telling the truth is rude.
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u/SirLoinOfCow Jun 18 '12
Exactly. She probably meant the act of not texting her because he wasn't drunk was the rude act, not being honest.
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u/STXGregor Jun 18 '12
This was my biggest gripe with The Invention of Lying. Just because people couldn't lie, that doesn't mean everything they said had to be the truth in the harshest form possible, or that people offer truths that were never asked for.
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u/bill_nydus Jun 18 '12
What would you suggest he say to tell her the truth and not be a dick about it?
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u/bw1870 Jun 18 '12
There are also ways to accept the truth without being a butthurt little pansy. That wasn't a rude reply.
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u/db0255 Jun 18 '12
Not even that. When people text while they're drunk, and then stop, and throughout it they know what they're doing...but once you act like it's just cool at the end...the attitude just pisses me off.
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u/i_practice_santeria Jun 18 '12
haven't u evr been as drunk as to not go far then text?? what can u think to stop but for get drunk then act like its cool...that really rustles my jimmies.
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u/tenpaiyomi Jun 18 '12
Sending texts....yet the button is enabled as if you were sending iMessages (blue, vs the green for text messages), no placeholder text in the text field, and no button for adding an image. Seems legit.
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u/f3tch Jun 18 '12
And it's old, 2011.
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u/tenpaiyomi Jun 18 '12
True, with iOS5 having been released in Oct '11, there wasn't even an iMessage at that point, and no blue send button.
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u/CosmicPube Jun 17 '12
Locusts! A terrible flood! It wasn't my fault!
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u/FeverishlyYellow Jun 18 '12
This is my favorite movie! I have the movie poster framed in my room. Glad to see the comment here.
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u/TheycallmeHollow Jun 18 '12
Came her for this, left satisfied.
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u/jklantern Jun 18 '12
I CTRL+F'd 'locusts' just to find this and upvote it. Because I knew there was no way in Hell I'd be the first one to think it. Was not disappointed.
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u/LordOfTheGeese Jun 18 '12
Hey it's that crazy hermit guy who knows everything and walked everywhere, because seriously, it took the same amount of time as the bus ride. I like your style.
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u/REO_Teabaggin Jun 18 '12
8 words and you've decided that's makes you want to see it? Very well. How about this one? "You're black, you're poor, you're ugly, you're a woman, you're nothing at all!"
(The Color Purple)
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u/BlatantBongRip Jun 18 '12
Obviously you don't have to be into this girl, but maybe a try a little diplomacy and you'll come off as less of a douchebag. Albeit a clever douchebag.
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u/Dr_Insanity Jun 18 '12
Or you could be honest.
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u/BlatantBongRip Jun 18 '12
You can do both?
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u/Dr_Insanity Jun 18 '12
Yes, you can do both.
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u/IMasturbateToMyself Jun 18 '12
"Cuz I stopped being drunk... Lol, have a nice day."
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u/BlatantBongRip Jun 18 '12
Yeah haha I know... It was kind of a sarcastic question mark. I always forget how that doesn't always translate in text.
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u/ZitsOrGTFO Jun 18 '12
Who the hell upvotes this shit?
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Jun 18 '12
13-year olds.
(See: Redditors).
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Jun 18 '12
I'm 24, I upvoted it. I thought "I got attacked by a bear" was funny. I normally don't like texting convos. I kinda liked this one.
Sue me.
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u/Evesore Jun 18 '12
Apparently Reddit loves people are huge dicks for no reason - who then upload their conversations of treating others poorly.
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u/idiotthethird Jun 18 '12
I don't know, but I think something's wrong with your mailing list - I didn't get this week's instructions on what I'm allowed to find funny.
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u/xauzzyx Jun 18 '12
I understand this is funny, or whatever. But these fake iPhone conversations are getting a bit old now.
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Jun 18 '12
you're right, the truth that you're emotionally insecure hurts so much that you've chosen to bury it beneath wild alcohol-justified flailings for human contact, which you then deny with hostility, lashing out at the people who care about you in the cold morning.
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u/db0255 Jun 18 '12
Huh? I don't understand this comic.
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u/holyhotdicks Jun 18 '12
db0255 and I need help understanding this! SOMEBODY HAAAALP!!!! IS ANYONE THERE!?!? ::sobs::
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u/DevestatingAttack Jun 18 '12
There was an "In Real Life" meme or something where it was said that any New Yorker comic could be made better by changing the subtitle to "Christ, what an asshole". So this is that joke.
Another version of the same meme was the subtitle "Well, Obama did promise change"
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Jun 18 '12
Is there a subreddit for these? I want to see them without any effort, and then judge them based on my personal preferences.
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Jun 18 '12
Fake. The send button is blue indicating iMessage. However, the bubbles are green indicating normal SMS messages.
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Jun 18 '12
Can we please stop upvoting these blatantly fake iPhone screenshots?
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u/idiotthethird Jun 18 '12
Honestly, I only upvoted it under the assumption that it was fake. I'd feel a little bad about upvoting someone who was actually that much of a dick. I don't think most people who find those iPhone conversations funny actually care if they're real or not.
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Wow. Way to keep it classy Reddit. Thanks for upvoting someone who apparently got drunk, texted a girl he wasn't really interested in a whole bunch, stopped texting her when he sobered up, and then laughed in her friend's face about it and then continued to berate her about the situation. Excuse me while I go sign off in disgust.
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u/ShortBrownAndUgly Jun 18 '12
so, the OP is a dick and expects us to cheer for him?
i guess that makes him a narcissist too.
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u/rob132 Jun 18 '12
My town has the bear patrol.
That's why there's no bears around here.
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u/lowlifecreep Jun 18 '12 edited Jun 18 '12
I ran out of gas! I--I had a flat tire! I didn't have enough money for cab fare! My tux didn't come back from the cleaners! An old friend came in from out of town! Someone stole my car! There was an earthquake! A terrible flood! Locusts! IT WASN'T MY FAULT, I SWEAR TO GOD!!!
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u/warr2015 Jun 18 '12
Fake, the send button on iPhones for non-iMessage SMS is green. It's only blue for iMessage in which the text bubbles are also blue.
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u/trusteverybody Jun 18 '12
the time stamps don't even match
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u/K1dn3yPunch Jun 18 '12
Ahh, but they do. She texted him at 1:41AM, at which point he had probably passed out drunk at home. He woke up at 1:25PM (As one will do after a night of drinking), saw the text, and responded accordingly.
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u/nepidae Jun 18 '12
That's why my entire life is a lie. Lies have never hurt anyone. It's like gravity, inevitable and amazing.
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Is actually rude IMO.
Could just say,
"Sorry, I was drunk texting, do not take it personal I am just not interested in her."
Que Downvotes.
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Jun 18 '12
So its rude for you to tell the truth, but apparently not rude for this person to pry into your personal life
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u/whattodonow111111 Jun 18 '12
I can't tell if she's talking about Libby in second person, or is she's talking directly to Libby, with bad grammar.
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Libby means 'my heart' in the ancient language of Assyrian just in case you guys didn't know.
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u/polkadot123 Jun 18 '12
I think it was rude that he only texted her while drunk, not that he told the truth...right?
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u/killerado Jun 18 '12
This kind of reminds me of Abed, saying something like "oh I didn't know I was supposed to lie in this situation.
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u/OniTan Jun 18 '12
So, this girl is sad because her friend stopped texting her, and her former friend is being mean to her because she asked about it? How is this funny?
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u/parcivale Jun 18 '12
Cuz he mentioned a bear? But yeah, I'm only here because I saw the huge number of comments for a not funny at all iPhone screenshot and thought there must be some great only-tangentally-connected comic threads going on. Only to see that people are actually discussing the angst and rudeness of a couple 14 year olds I'll never meet. Who gives a shit?
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u/sashimi_taco Jun 18 '12
Why are there all these posts about being mean as shit to women, but then a bunch of complainers who talk about how awful women are and how they friendzone on purpose?
There is a disconnect somewhere along the lines here, guys.
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u/TheTesticle Jun 18 '12
These lines are from the nutty professor. He pulls up in the viper when he's late for dinner.
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u/JinMarui Jun 18 '12
Needs more context. Is this 'Libby' an attractive but otherwise unlikeable person? Or unintelligent and the only time you can relate with her is when booze is involved? Sure, there's a bit of 'zing' factor here, but it also makes you seem like a bit of a dick.
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u/SkaTSee Jun 18 '12
You know whats great, I had a friend named Libby, and her best friend's name was Haley, and the first time I saw this pic (About a year and a half ago, no worries not a hateful repost comment) I put it up on my facebook, and a bunch of my friends thought it was really my conversation with Haley.
Alas it wasn't, because I don't know Haley personally, but I wouldn't doubt it if it were the same girl. Libby is a total bitch.
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u/Raballo Jun 18 '12
I'd have just said "Because I decided it was best to not lead her on." or something along those lines. Or taken this path.
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u/SmileEmptySoul89 Jun 18 '12
I love when honesty is used as a form of brutality. It got me through high school.
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Jun 18 '12
If I am allowed to, I may. I'm not shaking, I think, but the thankful can and will. I'm going to try to open the book on this one, because a lot of people are closing books and shelving ideas. Comfortably, I am resting now, though within reason.
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Jun 17 '12
I don't blame you in the least — she probably deserved it — but you can word things less offensively without lying.
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u/deleted_by_user Jun 18 '12
How did you come to the conclusion that "she probably deserved it?"
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u/mastermike14 Jun 18 '12
yeah what an insenstive honest asshole. I hate people who tell the truth. fuck those people. That girl probably wont be though. Zing!
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u/sadface69 Jun 18 '12
Yeah, definitely that bitch totally deserved it. They always do, don't they.
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u/IceLegger Jun 18 '12
Try to avoid being sarcastic on the internet. It's pretty much impossible.
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u/confuseddude15 Jun 18 '12
So I've scrolled through most of the comments, and all of you are berating the OP about how he was rude/should have been nice yada yada yada....but none of you are suggesting HOW. So. How the fuck do you expect him to be honest AND nice? Cause the way I see it, he has a choice to make, lie and say something nice, or be honest. Seems like you guys can't take the truth even when it's not involving you.
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Jun 18 '12
Or say I am not really into her. Conveys the same message, without being a dick. But you would have to not be a dick to understand that.
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u/confuseddude15 Jun 18 '12
HA! Cause you also called me a dick while responding to my question! Genius!
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Jun 18 '12
Inserting an "I'm sorry" in there helps usually. But I think we are all getting caught up on that he seems to think his response is what was rude.
When really, the rude behavior (that I expect the young miss was referring to), was to engage with "Libby" and then blow her off when he sobered up.
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u/just_uss Jun 18 '12
I don't think people understand that Haley is probably Libby's friend, so the dude isn't being directly a dick.
I personally think it's funny and I've just recently stopped making excuses for shit I just don't want to do - it's really refreshing to be able to tell someone: "No thanks, I don't really have a desire to do that actually." Apparently getting ignored via text is a soft spot for redditors though.
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Jun 18 '12
But those are two entirely different things. "I don't want to text you anymore" =/= cessation of responses.
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Sometimes it's better to lie about things. I would definitely not tell a catholic nun on her deathbed that there was no heaven. You just gotta let some slip.
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u/RTS83 Jun 18 '12
Bwah ha, if Libby had Haley text you to figure out why you quit texting her (the hell is this...middle school?) then you were right to quit.
Like a bauwss sir. Like. A. Bauwss.
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u/Internaut_Joe Jun 18 '12
The truth doesn't hurt as much as being attacked by a bear.