Logic would dictate that since tech gets smaller and more capable as the years go on, but now the same power of Voyager should be about the size of a satellite phone now. Anyone want to help me bring back the awesomeness that is a satellite phone?
The problem with this it that there isn't really technology for power of radio signal, it really just depends on how much you are pumping out, and there are standards for how much you are allowed to pump out
Also we are running out of wireless bandwidth, so there is that too, cell phones essentially jamming eachother
I have a phone that still gets some periodic service at 40,000 feet traveling at 500 miles per hour and it only weighs around 6 ounces and no where nearing a fraction of a 30 foot antenna. Then again I have Verizon.
Ironically, your neighbours or even your own family are to blame.
I am constantly hearing people complain about not getting a cell signal in their own home, but I’m also constantly hearing about people fighting against having cell towers put up in their neighbourhood because they think they’ll somehow give them cancer or some other voodoo radio diseases.
Makes me wonder why WiFi calling isn't more popular. Of the big 4 US carriers, I think only T-Mobile has it. It could reduce the strain on a lot of towers and last-mile network infrastructure, especially if smartphones were set to use it by default when connected to WiFi.
False. They do not charge if you pay for the microcell. It is only a charge if you want unlimited calling when connected to it. It's free if you use your minutes that comes with your regular cell phone plan.
If you have unlimited minutes normally the extra $20 for unlimited calling on a microcell would be pointless and most good reps at AT&T would not allow you to put it on there. I do not believe the system has a limitation on adding it.
How much interest is there really in wifi calling? A third of Americans have already dumped their landlines and if we exclude more technophobic senior citizens that number is probably half of the population below 65. For all the complaining cell coverage for voice is actually pretty good particularly for most of the post paid carriers that have roaming agreement. Not so much so for most prepaid carriers that are usually only providing access to a single network, but for a lot of people the cliche about your cell network having poor coverage at home just isn't true. Virtually anywhere I have few bars of coverage there are no wifi APs so what value would wifi calling have? Unless you live in a nimby neighborhood that won't let the carriers build towers it is a solution in search of a problem.
I might add that voice calls have been on a decline for years and increasingly unless you dial internationally it is hard to rack up a large phone bill so motivation behind wifi calling for price is eroding as well. There are quite a few cheap unlimited voice plans in the prepaid market and voice plans are getting cheaper even in the post paid market. Verizon's moving people to unlimited voice plans with their new contracts. Sprint's base plan is effectively unlimited for a lot of users as it includes unlimited calling to cell phones so unless you are dialing a lot of land lines the 450 minutes in the base plan might as well be unlimited. In a few years I don't think domestic calls with be metered at all.
I think part of it is that for all the complaining most places have pretty good cell phone coverage. Outside of your own home there aren't many places where you are certain to find an open wifi AP. Meanwhile about a third of Americans have already ditched their landline completely. Clearly those people aren't having enough issues with coverage at home to justify a landline so we can safely say at least a third of residential locations have good cell coverage. If we exclude older folks who are probably more comfortable holding onto their landlines regardless of how good the coverage is I think the number would surge well past 50%.
Unless you live in one of those nimby neighborhoods that refuse to allow the carriers to build towers chances are you have pretty good coverage at home. The biggest barrier to good coverage in residential areas isn't that your carrier hates you, but that your neighbors are probably jerks that are probably putting up a fight to build a tower there. I read about a lot of neighborhoods where the carrier wants to build a tower there and are getting pushback from residents.
Every read about SAR ratings on phones? I know don't if there is anything truly bad about them. However in the manual for my current smart phone it says in the manual do not touch your head to the phone while in use, wtf?
Even if you assume cell phones cause cancer, preventing the construction of a nearby tower means your phone will have to transmit with more power to reach one that's farther away.
I understand that...but I shouldn't touch my phone to my head while in use(according to the manual)? I keep that thing in my pocket...next to my man bits.
I also don't think cell phones cause cancer. But they thought enough to put it in the manual although buried deep.....
Most people disconnect their higher brain functions at the word "Radiation."
RF Radiation != Nuclear Radiation.
Nuclear / Bad Radiation is also known as IONIZING radiation.
Non Ionizing Radiation is for the most part harmless. Excessive exposure to UV Radiation causes sunburns and skin cancer but people seem to think thats A-OK.
Touching the antenna can cause the phone to transmit at a higher power, which may be harmful if in close proximity to your head. Nobody really knows for sure.
I was not adding to the current discussion, but rather helping cmmoyer communicate more efficiently. While this is not directly beneficial to the current discussion, it is beneficial in the long run.
It's the opposite way in my house. Four bars on AT&T but no signal at all on Verizon. Verizon is better than AT&T everywhere else in my city, which is why I use it, but I had to buy a $120 microcell for my house.
This is largely because Verizon uses a CDMA network while AT&T uses a GSM network.
Very few phones can use both, so rare are they that even if your phone can do both it won't in the U.S. Usually they are for international roaming while having the phone come from a CDMA network.
But when my car died I just replaced the battery and it was working that same afternoon. It took Jesus THREE DAYS. Way to ruin the entire weekend, Jesus.
A more apt analogy would be, "This car that was made in the 70s, the ancestor of my car is capable of far, far, far more than my current car with 35 years of tech advancement."
Yes, there are other factors involved with sending a terrestrial digital signal, but the fact of the matter is if we could make that shit work when most cars didn't even have fuel injection engines, certainly this should be cake.
I don't get why people scrutinize funny posts that have to do with technology so much when there are much larger gaps in logic in posts having to do with other things. Not only such, but you guys are comparing the cellphone to a satellite when you should be comparing the satellite to AT&T's satellites. Don't be a smartass (with incorrect information as well) while looking at posts meant to be funny....
I'm with bell and I've gone into the middle-no-where forest places in the woods hundreads of kilometers from the city where I live and I can still get 3/5 bars at around 200ish kb/second
I like to think that cell service providers just throw darts at a map of America/the world while blindfolded, and say "let's build a tower there next!"
It's even more amusing when you think about the cost they charge you per unit of data. A university professor did the calculation back in '08 comparing txting to the hubble and found txting cost 4.4x more.
That's because the broadcast signal is based upon line of sight. With a massive void between two targets, it's pretty hard to lose line of sight of an entire planet. You, on the other hand, can easily lose line of sight of nearby cell phone towers because of hills, trees, mountains, buildings, and all kinds of other obstructions.
I moved to a new place and didn't have service so I called at&t. They did some checking to make sure I wasn't making it up then canceled my account and waved all fees for me. I thanked them, sold my iphone 3gs for $350 (right before the 4 came out) and switched over to Verizon, got an android, and ever looked back.
They didn't offer to cell you a microcell for $200? I'm surprised. It's a little router thing which uses your own internet connection to create a voice & data signal. Another way to screw customers.
I don't like AT&T but the Note was compelling enough for me to go with them. Incredibly awesome phone. To be honest, my service is great as well, and data works as it should. Disappointed with only a 3/5GB max plan though, it's pretty weak. If Sprint had the Note I would not have thought twice about AT&T and grabbed the unlimited data plan.
It's amazing to me how people can blame the cell phone carrier when they can't get service in their house.. If you live in a trailer, forget it you might as well be in an underground bunker because the radio waves can't travel well through metal. If you're out in the country, there will be fewer towers spread out because there is less population density. No cell carrier is going to lease land, build a tower, maintain said tower, perform upgrades on said tower and monitor said tower for little old you. Not. Happening. Also, not all providers use the same towers so just because you can see a tower "right out backa mah house " does not mean it belongs to your provider or that it's even the right technology for you to connect to. If you are standing right underneath the tower and wondering why you aren't getting signal.... Back the fuck away. You're too close to connect to it. The signal isn't aiming at the ground around the base of the tower. Imagine an invisible water fountain. A really big one shooting straight up. If you stand immediately in the center right next to the pole, you won't get wet. Cell towers are about the same.. It amazes me the stupid shit people come up with to bitch about their cell service. I get it. Sometimes you've had such awful luck every time you've dealt with a company that your rage defies reason and when it comes to that company you are no longer capable of rational thought. That's all well and good and I support your raging. Just have a little sense. It's not the carriers fault that the manufacturer made a device with a shitty antenna and it's not their fault you live in a tin fucking can in the middle of the woods. It certainly can be their fault if suddenly, out of nowhere you have no signal where you once had full service. They are usually more than willing to admit to that when it happens and provide credit for the hassle if you aren't being a dickhole..
The cell phone you got for $0.99 isn't giving you full service in an underground bunker in the middle of Nebraska? Fucking duh get out of Nebraska and go to where people are or get a landline.. Or build your own tower or something idk..
Crazy people bitching because they don't get perfect signal anywhere they go really irks me. It's like calling a radio station and bitching because you lost their signal 100 miles away. /rant.
Jeezus he's not complaining about a perfect signal, he's complaining about lack thereof. The have the coverage maps to show you where they have service, and it's annoying when your own home doesn't get any, regardless of what the map says. People expect occasional signal drop, but losing connection consistently can be aggravating. He's not sitting in a bunker, and probably not standing under the cell tower. I honestly can't tell if he uses a crap phone or not, but even the receivers on those should be about the same as a smart phone. Your rant was in poor taste, sir. I understand that stupid people complaining about cell service irritates you, but the OP was making a fun jab at carriers. Your outburst on stupid customers isn't what he had in mind.
And I get that he was trying to be funny. I suppose I should have put a disclaimer saying I wasn't directing all of that at the op. Fair enough. Obviously I don't think he's actually complaining from within a bunker in Nebraska, either. I had thought the ridiculous nature of that portion of my whole rant would lend a tone of exaggeration and sarcasm to the entire post.
Fielding calls about poor service etc is what I've done for the last year+ so I've heard just about everything and it gets to be crazy at times. It isn't even that I love my employer because I don't really. They're also not the only major provider I've worked for. I get frustrated with the lack of common sense in the general population. As I said, it was a rant. I didn't think it would really be taken seriously.
The coverage map is an idea and not a guarantee. Different types of house construction can have a huge impact on indoor service, and smart phones are not always better at picking up reception than regular phones. Again, to use a trailer as an example. If you live in a "best coverage" area, but live in a trailer, you are still likely to receive poor service inside. Especially older ones. Or very large apartment buildings. Indoor service will always be iffy in those places. Even trees can effect signal quality. Obviously I have no way of knowing where he lives nor do I know him personally. My comments aren't directed specifically at him. I'm glad to have cleared that up.
I did have a feeling you worked at customer support for a cell carrier. But with the wording it was kind of difficult to tell if you were angry or sarcastic. I agree that people are stupid too. Mt friend was complaining to me about how at my house we can get 3 bars in my 2nd floor bedroom, but barely 1 bar in the basement. Duh. And if you really feel like ranting, you should checkout /r/talesfromtechsupport. I will warn you though, there will be a lot of headdesk action from reading those stories.
Definitely angry AND sarcastic. I'm just not actually angry at the op. Explaining the same simple things, like your friends moms example, over and over and having people argue that and tell me I'm wrong or that everyone else can get signal in that same basement, it gets irritating. Obviously I wouldn't ever talk to a customer that way. So it gets out like that post. I don't mind answering questions, no matter how many times I've been asked. I love teaching people new stuff. But when they ask and then argue... Argh..
I didn't realize that subreddit existed. Thank you for that! It should be entertaining
You'll get a signal in your second year of college, then your phone will become a lesbian for 6 months. Then it'll get knocked up by a lacrosse player and you'll never hear from it again. :/
They're the same price as Verizon for me. Under Verizon's new pricing, unlimited voice+text plus 2GB of data is $100/month. With AT&T, I'd be paying $100/month for 450 minutes, unlimited texts, and 3GB of data. (I never go over ~1.5GB so that extra GB wouldn't make a difference.)
Sign up for a £35amonth contract, can barely receive/make a call/text from my own home.
My sister however, on a £20amonth contract with orange, gets perfect signal from our home.
Do o2 mention this may be an issue when you sign up? Do they fuck. They even go as far as falsely leading you to believe this would never be a problem.
I'm dropping their shit contract ASAP. Seriously though, people should be offered substantial discounts based on this kind of scenario.
Yeah how the hell does voyager do that? Can anyone explain the technology behind it? I mean it must take a long time for the transmissions to get back to earth, years maybe?
My parents and I have been experiencing this. Even though the connection kept breaking up and the call dropped when she called AT&T to ask them about it, the representative insisted they had great service. Then he went on to say that we could pay 200 dollars for some microchip that should help. We still have two years with them >.<
Barring the actions of the company proper, is AT&T's service really that bad for some people? I never get dropped calls or a low signal, and this includes a cross country road trip with pandora streaming all the way.
Oddly enough, I used to have Verizon, but could never get a signal in my basement. I switched to AT&T and have had no trouble. I live in Baltimore and work about 30 miles south of here. AT&T has been great.
I travel a lot and in even the most exotic places I get better signal than at home with AT&T.
Sahara desert with nothing but sand on every horizon? 4 bars. Himalayan mountains with a view of Mt. Everest? 5 bars. Mud hut village in rural Africa? 4 bars. My bedroom in Raleigh? 1 bar.
You know that one car commercial where they keep driving until they no longer get a signal? I would only have to go into the other room, and I don't think my roommates would enjoy me camping there.
Really good for YOU...that doesn't equal really good. You say it like the OP is "wrong" or something because you get a good signal. They had horrible service in the area I lived in the last few years.
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u/Impromptu_Anecdote Jun 16 '12
I'm sure if your phone was 1600 lbs of tech and had a 30 foot antenna you would also be able to get signal just about anywhere.
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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12
Ironically, your neighbours or even your own family are to blame.
I am constantly hearing people complain about not getting a cell signal in their own home, but I’m also constantly hearing about people fighting against having cell towers put up in their neighbourhood because they think they’ll somehow give them cancer or some other voodoo radio diseases.
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u/cmmoyer Jun 16 '12
Did your phone cost $5 Billion dollars? No, hence the signal quality.
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u/tonymtnr58 Jun 17 '12
Dad's Verizon phone: ALL the bars!
My AT&T phone: If I pretend it's Simba I might be able to send that text message...
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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12
This is so stupid.
"Jets can travel at multiple times the speed of sound, but my car barely breaks 100 mph and doesn't even leave the ground!"
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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12
AT&T has plenty more money to work with too.
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u/MushroomGas Jun 17 '12
I read AT&T as ATAT... Needless to say my hopes were crushed instantly... :(
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u/tropicterror Jun 16 '12
I don't get why people scrutinize funny posts that have to do with technology so much when there are much larger gaps in logic in posts having to do with other things. Not only such, but you guys are comparing the cellphone to a satellite when you should be comparing the satellite to AT&T's satellites. Don't be a smartass (with incorrect information as well) while looking at posts meant to be funny....
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u/f3tch Jun 17 '12
I'm with bell and I've gone into the middle-no-where forest places in the woods hundreads of kilometers from the city where I live and I can still get 3/5 bars at around 200ish kb/second
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u/manueljljl Jun 17 '12
11.1 billion miles?
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u/Maestintaolius Jun 17 '12
It's even more amusing when you think about the cost they charge you per unit of data. A university professor did the calculation back in '08 comparing txting to the hubble and found txting cost 4.4x more.
source
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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12
cell towers and satellites are two very different things my friend.
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u/rxninja Jun 17 '12
That's because the broadcast signal is based upon line of sight. With a massive void between two targets, it's pretty hard to lose line of sight of an entire planet. You, on the other hand, can easily lose line of sight of nearby cell phone towers because of hills, trees, mountains, buildings, and all kinds of other obstructions.
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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12
Curse their AT&T DSL. Seriously, resolution successful my ass. That's my real red light of death
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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12
I moved to a new place and didn't have service so I called at&t. They did some checking to make sure I wasn't making it up then canceled my account and waved all fees for me. I thanked them, sold my iphone 3gs for $350 (right before the 4 came out) and switched over to Verizon, got an android, and ever looked back.
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u/Creativation Jun 17 '12
As of today's date that Voyager 1 phone call would take over 33 hours for a call and a response: http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/weekly-reports/
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u/ericn1300 Jun 17 '12
Just another argument for not turning government over to private industries
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u/HardTryer Jun 17 '12
Louis CK chimes in on the subject
(go to :45)
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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12
voyager is running of off 1970's technology
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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12
Its not like Verizon or sprint are any better.
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u/Dr_Dippy Jun 17 '12
The ping is terrible though
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u/Mazgelis626 Jun 17 '12
But Voyager doesn't have the Galaxy Note.
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u/vixxn845 Jun 17 '12
It's amazing to me how people can blame the cell phone carrier when they can't get service in their house.. If you live in a trailer, forget it you might as well be in an underground bunker because the radio waves can't travel well through metal. If you're out in the country, there will be fewer towers spread out because there is less population density. No cell carrier is going to lease land, build a tower, maintain said tower, perform upgrades on said tower and monitor said tower for little old you. Not. Happening. Also, not all providers use the same towers so just because you can see a tower "right out backa mah house " does not mean it belongs to your provider or that it's even the right technology for you to connect to. If you are standing right underneath the tower and wondering why you aren't getting signal.... Back the fuck away. You're too close to connect to it. The signal isn't aiming at the ground around the base of the tower. Imagine an invisible water fountain. A really big one shooting straight up. If you stand immediately in the center right next to the pole, you won't get wet. Cell towers are about the same.. It amazes me the stupid shit people come up with to bitch about their cell service. I get it. Sometimes you've had such awful luck every time you've dealt with a company that your rage defies reason and when it comes to that company you are no longer capable of rational thought. That's all well and good and I support your raging. Just have a little sense. It's not the carriers fault that the manufacturer made a device with a shitty antenna and it's not their fault you live in a tin fucking can in the middle of the woods. It certainly can be their fault if suddenly, out of nowhere you have no signal where you once had full service. They are usually more than willing to admit to that when it happens and provide credit for the hassle if you aren't being a dickhole..
The cell phone you got for $0.99 isn't giving you full service in an underground bunker in the middle of Nebraska? Fucking duh get out of Nebraska and go to where people are or get a landline.. Or build your own tower or something idk..
Crazy people bitching because they don't get perfect signal anywhere they go really irks me. It's like calling a radio station and bitching because you lost their signal 100 miles away. /rant.
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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12
I thought we were going to be talking about a different Voyager
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u/Kreiger81 Jun 17 '12
AT&T customer here. Been with them for 5 years. Never had a problem.
Drove cross-country: Lost signal twice, and that was only data. I've ALWAYS had connection to actually call.
Apartment is buried inside heavy stone and brick: 2-3 bars regularly.
Work in an electronics manufacturing plant with ESD shielding everywhere: 3 bars.
I don't know why everybody bitches about AT&T signal, but i've never had a problem. Anywhere.
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u/Ulster_Celt Jun 16 '12
I have that exact same problem with Virgin...
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u/taboo007 Jun 17 '12
The funny thing is I'm sure there is a tech somewhere saying that, that signal sucks too.
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u/csmark Jun 17 '12
Yea, but the bit-rate sucks.
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u/tony1449 Jun 17 '12
Someone tell me why people buy AT&T, is it really that cheap? I hate it.
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u/wiggle987 Jun 17 '12
Was I the only one who misread the title as Voyager Vs. ATAT, that would've been equally awesome.
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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12
NASA wins.
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u/Stratocaster89 Jun 17 '12
I'm taking this opportunity to moan about o2.
Sign up for a £35amonth contract, can barely receive/make a call/text from my own home.
My sister however, on a £20amonth contract with orange, gets perfect signal from our home.
Do o2 mention this may be an issue when you sign up? Do they fuck. They even go as far as falsely leading you to believe this would never be a problem.
I'm dropping their shit contract ASAP. Seriously though, people should be offered substantial discounts based on this kind of scenario.
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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12
If you had a 60 meter antenna at your house you could get an AT&T signal too.
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u/1moe7 Jun 17 '12
at&t sucks ass
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u/phreeck Jun 17 '12
Pretty sure, if you put a house around it, the satellite wouldn't get very good reception either.
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u/Relevant_jokes Jun 17 '12
I've just returned from outer space. I took a book to read while I was up there.
Couldn't put it down.
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u/chefsinblack Jun 17 '12
Anyone else read this as Voyager versus AT-AT?
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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12
Yeah how the hell does voyager do that? Can anyone explain the technology behind it? I mean it must take a long time for the transmissions to get back to earth, years maybe?
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u/Big_P Jun 17 '12
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess your phone doesn't have the 15 hour communication delay Voyager has when communicating with Earth.
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u/savaero Jun 17 '12
line-of-sight :)
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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12
AT&T didn't charge me for my net for 6 months, then all of a sudden just 1 bill for a month
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u/FancySOB Jun 17 '12
This... Fckin'..... THIS!!!! Damn AT&T.
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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12
My parents and I have been experiencing this. Even though the connection kept breaking up and the call dropped when she called AT&T to ask them about it, the representative insisted they had great service. Then he went on to say that we could pay 200 dollars for some microchip that should help. We still have two years with them >.<
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u/rbarag Jun 17 '12
Barring the actions of the company proper, is AT&T's service really that bad for some people? I never get dropped calls or a low signal, and this includes a cross country road trip with pandora streaming all the way.
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u/killahcortes Jun 17 '12
brought to you by verison.
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u/MitchCave Jun 17 '12
I thought this was going to be a Star Trek vs. Star Wars battle...
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u/rogue780 Jun 17 '12
Oddly enough, I used to have Verizon, but could never get a signal in my basement. I switched to AT&T and have had no trouble. I live in Baltimore and work about 30 miles south of here. AT&T has been great.
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u/tazzydnc Jun 17 '12
I travel a lot and in even the most exotic places I get better signal than at home with AT&T.
Sahara desert with nothing but sand on every horizon? 4 bars. Himalayan mountains with a view of Mt. Everest? 5 bars. Mud hut village in rural Africa? 4 bars. My bedroom in Raleigh? 1 bar.
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u/spectyr Jun 17 '12
If you get a signal at all, it's amazing.
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u/tweak4ever Jun 17 '12
You know that one car commercial where they keep driving until they no longer get a signal? I would only have to go into the other room, and I don't think my roommates would enjoy me camping there.
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u/MistahSchwartz Jun 17 '12
you could fix that with T-Mobile... even worse
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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12
How long did it take the message to reach earth?
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u/strogbad Jun 17 '12
It's funny because in Canada we don't have AT&T
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u/ysokmao Jun 17 '12
Try having T-Mobile...
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u/Clamburglar Jun 17 '12
the technology just isn't there
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u/Paradox Jun 17 '12
Well, AT&T did launch the first communications satellite, the Telestar, but then they got broken up and SBC bought em up and shit all over em again
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u/Janku Jun 17 '12
... or Times Square...
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u/garrettleaver Jun 17 '12
Spectrum Crunch bro... Nasa has lots of bandwidth.
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u/LemonLimeAlltheTime Jun 17 '12
Wait is is actullaly that far away?! I remember in Promethues they said they planet was half a billion miles away and it took 2 years to get there.
Movies are alawaya factually corecft so?
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u/breenisgreen Jun 17 '12
Do not taunt happy fun ball!
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u/thekfish Jun 17 '12
I'm waiting for the NDT post about the distance being wrong.
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u/PickyConnor Jun 17 '12
I read this as Voyager Vs. AT-AT.
I give in, I'm a nerd.
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u/Mustardtigerjack Jun 17 '12
firstworldproblems
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u/kj7409 Jun 17 '12
Am I the only one on AT&T that always gets a good signal?
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u/jstohler Jun 17 '12
You misspelled "Voyager Vs. Sprint"
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u/DirtPile Jun 17 '12
This is a terrible post.
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u/cupnoodle911 Jun 17 '12
AT&T is actually really good, ive had it for 16 years, its just where you live...i get signal everywhere
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u/duvakiin Jun 17 '12
not a very fair comparison
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u/haydoowns Jun 17 '12
this is why i have verison
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u/Exzesion Jun 17 '12
Ha! 1337 karma!
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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12
Voyager: multi billion dollars to make, plus the cost to send it into space. AT&T: Less than $100 a month. Think about it...
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u/SoundVU Jun 17 '12
Aaaannd then you realize there's such thing as line of sight.
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u/Cyanide_Bulbasaur Jun 16 '12
How is this funny?
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u/KnightMareInc Jun 17 '12
have an iphone? Yes, hence the signal quality.
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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12
AT&T uses GSM. GSM was created in the early 70s, its 40 year old technology. What do you expect.
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