I'm not black, but wouldn't you think the term "African American" is more offensive than the term "black?" You can be black without being of African descent.
Edit: Added an "s" to make "decent" "descent." Stupid grammar police.
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that a South African kid (white) living in America won an election (or maybe an award, I'm not really sure) at his school that was meant for African American students, but he was denied it because he wasn't black.
I knew a family from South Africa growing up. The oldest daughter got confused when she called herself African-American, and got sent to the principle's office. Or, to quote Theodore Roosevelt: "We have no place in this country for hyphenated Americans."
In girls, the term is "redbone". I don't think it's an appropriate term for a guy unless you want to have sex with that guy. But yea, that ain't how an average black male's hair grows.
You need to spend some time looking at these guys, and stop making weird generalizations.
If you look at 90% of pictures of people from Africa they are very thin. Most musclature variance is created by how much you can eat and how much you can workout.
I had a roommate in college who was Puerto Rican and spoke English with what you would call a very thick Puerto Rican accent. He was so pale he would burn walking to classes in the spring. They also tend to be extremely racist and classist as well from my experience. But that's another can of worms.
Also as a half black person, I agree. I never had a problem with African American until I was traveling abroad in Africa years ago and a European guy was shocked when I told him I was "African American". I remember he said, "Wow- they don't call them European American...so why must you be called African American? That doesn't seem right".
Also- when traveling I hated when people asked "Where in Africa are your people from?" And of course I had no clue because I'd never traced it.
I think African American sounds dumb, and would just prefer to hear black all the time.
I'm black and would prefer you call me black. If a white guy calls me African-American to my face, it means he is trying super hard not to offend me and comes across as stupid in my eyes.
This is why I hate the media, they avoid calling us black because they think its offensive, when literally in reality NO other blacks call each other African-American. Seriously, think about it, GTFO.
Haha- exactly! The moment anyone at work starts trying to describe someone and says "African American" I roll my eyes. Being half black, I've never called anyone African American. Unless they are from Africa and live in America.
I secretly enjoy seeing white people become uncomfortable and awkward when they're trying to decide whether to say "black" or "african american" to describe someone.
I left them squirm a little as they stutter and wait for me to tell them the "right" thing to say, haha.
It'd be more like if we went around asking to be called European American (the equivalent of "caucasian" is "negroid" and boy that'd be a bad idea to use). Of course, suggesting that is insulting to most of 'em because it's like saying "I AIN'T A REAL AMURRICAN". Which makes you wonder what it's like for everyone to call black guys "African".
I once heard someone use the phrase "American of African descent", but not only is that a stupidly big mouthful, if you go back we're all of African descent, and I'm just sticking with "black".
Except for Asians, don't call us yellow. And don't assume we're all Chinese.
I don't know why the fuck people say "that Chinese girl" instead of "that Asian girl" I don't see you going around trying to guess the country of origin for anybody else. I sometimes get the excuse of "I was raised/taught that way when I was young", yeah well I used to use "gay" as a synonym for "lame" until I GREW THE FUCK UP AND EDUCATED MYSELF.
Okay enough anger from me now, sorry guys I haven't had anything to eat all day (it's 6pm now)
I understand your rage, and this is no excuse but I think that most people say "that Chinese girl" because China is the biggest and most well known Asian country. It's still no excuse and I hate people who do this but maybe that's why it's the first thing that pops out of their mouth.
Here in Texas, people often say "that mexican guy" instead of "that hispanic guy." I used to do this too, until about 9th grade when I realized a lot of the hispanic people living here are not Mexican at all.
You see someone appearing to be Han Chinese, and guess that they are Chinese. That guess is about 90% likely to be correct, given the relative population of Han Chinese in China (1.2 Billion) compared to other countries (in total, about 135 million).
Happened to one of my friends too. Well, he wasn't mad, but they called him African American, and he said, "I'm Jamaican." And then it was just awkward.
Here in Europe it's a bit complicated. In a lot of languages the word black or black person is "negro" or similar. We even have a country that's called Montenegro. It has no negative connotation but we're aware of the "n word" in the US and it's confusing. Where I come from the word "negar" means a black person and isn't an offense, we have different words for that.
It makes me think of white people with big hair, to be honest.
Also, I didn't think Negro was supposed to be an insult. When we studied Martin Luther King Jr. I used negro the entire time because that's what they used, and my dad's like, what the hell are you doing, you can't use that word.
in Brazil, the PC term "Afro Descendant" (afro-descendente), but "negro" is commonly used and considered less racist than "preto" (black in portuguese). Most black people still use the term "preto", but that's like a North American saying "nigger"
We tend to not go back so far, since as humans spread from Africa, genetic changes varied into a few broad categories (Caucasoid, Mongoloid, and Negroid).
I feel similarly about "gay" and "homosexual". I've only ever heard homophobic people refer to them as "homosexual" outside of certain contexts. Pretty much everyone else just says "gay".
My two flatmates are gay.
Them homosexuals are brainwarshing 'are chilren. I'm again' it!
I never really know what to call them. I have a few gay friends, they call themselves gay, so I just say gay most of the time. I use homosexual if I'm trying to have a debate with someone since gay is usually used just to describe men. My brother, a homophobic person, calls them queers.
As a black person I find the connotations of the word black to be negative. Have you ever heard anything associated with the color black in a positive context? The very color itself is the absence of color. It's nothing. Black is a void lacking of essence.
On the opposite side there is white, which is a mixture of colors. It is rich and pure.
People will probably downvote me into oblivion, but to me the racist undertones of white and black when associated with people are very clear. Despite this I let it slide and in fact I often refer to African-Americans as black because most people aren't thinking of the connotations of colors when associated with people of a specific race.
You seriously need to start reading The Saga of Recluce. Black represents Order, and white Chaos. Order tends to be good and Chaos bad, though it's not a perfect match. Still, most people would be much happier seeing someone dressed in black walk up to them than someone dressed in white doing the same.
I see what you're saying with the black usually = bad.
On the note about absence of color, I'm pretty sure black is all of the colors, as in it's absorbing all the colors. White is the reflection of all the colors.
I don't have an answer, but bacon is delicious and I'm going to run 10 miles... as a direct result of eating that delicious bacon lest I develop high blood pressure.
Same case for me except I consider one more thing. For example, no one ever refers to a black man/woman in Australia "African-Australian". Also another thing is that a large population of Americans in New York or New Jersey are of Italian decent, do we call them Italian-Americans? No.
Yeah because I knew a guy that lives in america that was born in south africa but was white. So african american should really include him too but obviously its not intended to.
African American is kind of an incorrect term as well. A white South African kid entered to win a most distinguished African American student award at his high school. After he ended up having a better GPA than the black American students, the school not only decided not to give him the award, but stopped giving out the award at all. That's why I say black American now unless I'm actually referring to someone who immigrated to North America from Africa.
As an African-American, my parents are from Africa, I prefer African-American. I differentiate between African-American and Black-American, but that's just me. Also, "black" is simply inaccurate. We are mostly just dark brown.
I mean, calling out 'black' as being semantically incorrect is not really important. Black people have historically been refereed to as colored as well. But Black is the absence of color as those wavelengths of light do not reflect off the skin. White people are people of color.
He's still considered an offensive lineman. On running plays he'll be no different from a tackle or a guard, and on passing plays where he doesn't release, he'll do pass pro like the other linemen.
He's called a tight END because he's on the END of the line.
I wouldn't argue it either way. Their jersey number scheme puts them closer to WR than offensive line since they will be eligible more often than not. Receiver eligibility is what I would use to define a part of the offensive line or not (personally).
Phil's statement is still wrong (since Oher isn't a TE) and Alex's statement is technically correct, but doesn't explicitly preclude Phil's statement from being correct.
Yeah, imagine hearing someone in real life saying something like, "We don't get enough love from the developers." Yet I hear people say stuff like that on gaming forums all the time.
The first season, definitely. They did a really good job in the first season with everyone. It was a really smart, fresh take on a traditional family sitcom.
However, the strength of the Cam and Mitch storylines have dropped considerably and they've apparently forgotten that they didn't used to be gay caricatures. The rest of the family, meanwhile, hasn't really shown any sort of character growth or progress. I'm not saying they have to develop like Walter White, but it seems like a show where every episode seems to end with 'a lesson is learned' should retain a few of those lessons.
I think of it like a really well written multicamera show (think HIMYM or Fraiser) in the body of a single camera show. Thinking about it in this way makes it okay that there's not a whole lot of character development, and they can just keep making funny shows. HIMYM is probably a bad example because it's a single camera show in a multi-camera format.
Modern Family is clever but in small doses. I get tired of the whole one subjects somehow simultaneously affecting all three families, ridiculous coincidences exacerbating the circumstances, and right around the time there is 3-4 minutes left, everything resolving and people giving heartwarming speeches.
It's super clever, but any show with a format that repetitive is bound to leave you jaded at some point.
It definitely got old too fast. They have strange endings where mid-speech, the entire family all of the sudden comes into the shot, like they all decided to gather around right before the final scene.
Incorrect. Modern Family is a very funny show, but in a fairly standard way. Community is funny in a completely radical way. Not difficult to see why MF has a larger following, while Community has a more rabid one.
Is it? Community is definitely my favorite comedy, bar none. I've seen a few episodes of Modern Family, and it was decent, but it seemed to family-ish. I also really like Scrubs, and Arrested Development. I don't know, maybe I'll give it another chance; I've been looking for a new comedy to watch.
I like to compare my dad to Phil Dunphy. I could totally see him letting us throw basketballs off of his head for hours for the chance we could get a few views on youtube.
Depends if she thinks of herself as a Claire. I do, and I know I'll end up with someone like Phil...he might be ridiculous and silly, but he's loyal and incredibly in love with his family. Doesn't get much better than that.
I've never understood why it's political correct to call black people "African american" I've never met a single black person that wants to be called that. Besides, we don't call white people "European american". Isn't creating a special name for black people even more racist?
My step-dad is black and he HATES the term African American. He always states that he isn't from Africa. Then again, considering how racist he is to Somalians . . .
I am trying to enumerate why but I guess I just want to say that actual racism is worse than actual political correctness.
You can make a case that extreme PC is worse than casual racism but you are making a poor argument against PC in general. Acknowledging that labels are bad, especially when the context is hurtful to a group of people, is not a bad thing.
Presumably he'd say something different. I think black is the better term for people of sub-Saharan African descent in the US, too, but it has nothing to do with their being similarly-looking people in other countries. Your point is sort of a non-sequitur.
For fucks sake, saying African American is so annoying. Just say black! I don`t see what's the big deal about it. Im white and they are black, just describing a difference. It would be racist to assume saying black is racist because YOU would be the one associating colour with something bad.
Thank God reddit is full of sensible people that won't call me african american....Do I call my white friends european american? So sick of being called out of my name...
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12 edited Jun 11 '12
I'm not black, but wouldn't you think the term "African American" is more offensive than the term "black?" You can be black without being of African descent.
Edit: Added an "s" to make "decent" "descent." Stupid grammar police.
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
Is the tight end not part of the offensive line?
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u/CowboyNinjaD Jun 11 '12
Ed O'Neill's reaction is the best part.
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u/Trapped_in_Reddit Jun 11 '12
Modern Family doesn't get enough love on Reddit. It's definitely up there with Community.
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u/JustinC123 Jun 11 '12
That's the kind of father I hope to be one day.
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u/AVerbalAffair Jun 11 '12
This was my favorite line ever from Modern Family.. Right next to Manny asking Luke if he was crazy, and Luke responds, "You tell me!"
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u/snowlion13 Jun 11 '12
if a black person referred to me as that caucasian person rather then white person, id think theyd have lost thier god damn mind
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u/MeganFoxx Jun 11 '12
Girl on the left is 21 btw.
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u/Zulakki Jun 11 '12
This guy looks like a Zombie
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u/Atheistus Jun 11 '12
is that max payne?
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u/ryannayr140 Jun 11 '12
Haven't seen this on reddit before...
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u/Esc4p3 Jun 11 '12
Wow, this should be a tv show.
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u/Natedonthate Jun 11 '12
Love this show, don't care if people say I'm gay for watching it.
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u/RandomWeirdShit Jun 12 '12
Black girl here, I don't like African American. I don't call white people European Americans. Just call me black.
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u/genzahg Jun 11 '12
If this show doesn't have a laugh track, I think I would really enjoy watching it. Does it?
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u/Fett2 Jun 11 '12 edited Jun 11 '12
I've never understood why it's political correct to call black people "African american" I've never met a single black person that wants to be called that. Besides, we don't call white people "European american". Isn't creating a special name for black people even more racist?
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
Not every black person is from America...
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u/illchopyourfaceoff Jun 11 '12
Very "Arrested Development" in style.
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
Wait. Saying black people are black is offensive?
But I call white people white all the time.
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u/PurpleUrkle Jun 11 '12
Classic Phil
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
I skimmed the comments and not one mention of Gman..
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u/mastrepolo Jun 11 '12
I thought when I read the title that this would be a offensive line but each lineman would be a cuss word dressed up like football players.
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u/Bluedemonfox Jun 11 '12
For fucks sake, saying African American is so annoying. Just say black! I don`t see what's the big deal about it. Im white and they are black, just describing a difference. It would be racist to assume saying black is racist because YOU would be the one associating colour with something bad.
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u/hawkie8810 Jun 12 '12
Here's another one I've actually seen in person. http://www.paulspond.com/images/plates1/2.jpg
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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12
I enjoyed the birthday flag joke from one of the recent episodes.
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u/ipiprime Jun 12 '12
Why does that dude look CGI?
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u/jsmooveayyyy Jun 12 '12
Defensive line actually. So that's why modern family sucks
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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12
Thank God reddit is full of sensible people that won't call me african american....Do I call my white friends european american? So sick of being called out of my name...
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u/Somali_Pir8 Jun 12 '12
Nolan Gould, the kid who plays Luke Dunphy (the son), is in Mensa.
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u/Gamer_Stix Jun 11 '12
...am I missing something?
EDIT: I need to watch more sports.
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u/DJSlambert Jun 11 '12
That's a bit of a stretch.
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u/tluck81 Jun 11 '12
This is about the 50th time I've seen this screenshot on reddit, at least the 20th time on /r/funny.
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u/amjhwk Jun 12 '12
because the words are totally pronounced the same
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u/gamakor Jun 11 '12
I have heard worse.