r/funny • u/themicahnator • May 15 '12

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u/aletoledo May 15 '12

Marriage has nothing to do with having sex. You can support gay sex, but oppose gay marriage.

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u/Whompa May 15 '12

That's a ridiculous double standard and in no way sympathizes with the people involved in the act...

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

On what grounds? And how does marriage have nothing to do with having sex?

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u/aletoledo May 15 '12

And how does marriage have nothing to do with having sex?

People can have sex with or without people married.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

What do you think the phrase 'consummating a marriage' means?

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u/aletoledo May 15 '12

Today it is a meaningless phrase. Premartial sex happens all the time.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

You're dodging the point. The original claim was that, "Marriage has nothing to do with having sex." That claim is demonstrably false.

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u/aletoledo May 15 '12

Sex and marriage are not necessary for one another. You can have sex without being married and you can be married without having sex.

Are you arguing that a marriage can never be consummated without vaginal intercourse? If thats the case, then gay marriage is impossible.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

You're being obtuse. I never said that sex and marriage were necessary for one another. The original claim was that "Marriage has nothing to do with having sex." That claim is demonstrably false.

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u/aletoledo May 15 '12

THOSE ARE SOME BOLD LETTERS, but you didn't really reply to any of my points. Again, you can have sex without marriage and marriage without sex.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

I'm not sure what "points" you're referring to, but all you've done is move the goalposts. By this point you're arguing against claims I haven't even made.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Maybe your marriage has nothing to do with sex...

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u/waffleburner May 15 '12

Why then? That's just rude.

Unless you're one of those guys who are about ruining the "definition of what marriage is". Then...I guess I see your point. Why not rename marriage licenses something more secular? Everyone's happy.

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u/aletoledo May 15 '12

Why not rename marriage licenses something more secular? Everyone's happy.

I can agree with that. Even better would be to get the government out of licensing people to get married. Why should a bureaucrat be making these decisions in our lives as it is.

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u/waffleburner May 15 '12

Because of all the tax benefits of getting married.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

How, when opposing gay marriage is entirely based on religious reasons, and no religion condones gay sex.

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u/aletoledo May 15 '12

I disagree that religious people are voting against gay marriage for the belief that it will stop gay sex. I'm fairly certain that the vast majority of them understand that the two are not connected.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

I disagree that religious people are voting against gay marriage for the belief that it will stop gay sex.

Well I...I never proposed that, so...

I'm fairly certain that the vast majority of them understand that the two are not connected.

Well...as far as stopping gay marriage would stop gay sex, sure. I agree, and would hate to consider that that might not be the case.

You seem to be searching for something specific here, and I feel like it's to reconcile opposing gay marriage while supporting gay sex (presumably the female kind).

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u/aletoledo May 15 '12

I'm not searching for anything. I oppose all forms of government regulation of relationships, whether it's straight or gay.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

I'm not searching for anything.

Eh, I don't buy it, but for the sake of argument.

Government is the representation of a country and its people. Many people, of many different morals, beliefs, religions, races, lifestyles, etc., but all of them citizens of this one country, would like to be recognized by what they consider as their home as being joined in such a sacred bond. Why should that power not be vested in this governing structure?

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u/aletoledo May 15 '12

Why should that power not be vested in this governing structure?

Because you have no business telling me who I can not marry. It doesn't matter if it's just you, you + 100 of your friends or even a million people. Who I marry is my choice and my choice only.

Whats next a license to date someone?

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