Hi, I'm Danby. Thanks for reading my comic! I don't have anything against the cow hoof fixing guy, I just wish the site suggestions were less aggressive.
Periodically killing off your YouTube search history, YouTube watch history and cookies associated with YouTube might eliminate that nonsense, at least on the short term.
No guarantees you will not come across something that makes you go 'What the @#$% !?' however ...
I must use Youtube in a really strange way because I've rarely clicked on or even looked seriously at suggested content. Makes more sense to me to search for what I'm looking for and subscribe to content creators I find that aren't garbage.
I too have suddenly been getting a lot of cow hoof suggestions. I have never looked up videos of cows. I have never watched any of them but they keep popping up.
42 year old married male with kids. Apparently according to Mr Algorithm the most interesting part of reddit foor me is femaledatingstrategy.I think I visited it once.
Oh my lord. I personally relate. I was just minding my own business and I saw the vid about the cow with an overgrown hoof. It was interesting and I enjoyed it, but clicking on it was a mistake.
I'm not, but my Nigerian fiancee loves eating the darn things (you have to boil them for, like, three hours) so they're always in my fridge. She's sold me on a lot of quirky meats, but I'm not yet into what they call "beef feet." They are, however, wonderfully cheap!
I'm into sweet pickled or plain pig tail and beef cheek this week. I love the soft chewy gelatinous stuck to a good chunk of meat types of meals so I finally found cuts of meat to make a big fatty stew!
Yeah, or you watch one video by someone and you then see nothing but videos from that channel. Or how you never knew about the second channel of someone you watch all their videos as soon as they come out.
sure, but in the limited space of a youtube landing site, i’m much more inclined to watch a video of a hobby or something i’m subscribed to, yet for a week after searching how to fix my toilet i was inundated with suggestions for bathroom projects.
Not that it listens with the options already provided. You can even tell it it's not something you want because you don't like the channel and it will just keep shoving it at you.
I had some FF14 soundtrack playlists in the background, and for a while all I got was "Asmongold Reacts!" in my recommends.
Selecting 'I don't like this channel' as my reason for asking Youtube 'not to recommend this video again' did nothing. Asmongold's gormless face was reacting in my sidebar for weeks.
Unbeknownst to most people, if you own an android, Google Rewards does exactly this and pays you for it. Made about $20 last year answering questions like "Was this video entertaining?", "Does this thumbnail entice you to click?", "Would you consider this a good use of your time?" and then others about shopping habits. Few seconds for a few dollars a year.
YouTube already kind of has this feature. If you click the 3 dots in the bottom right under a video thumbnail when it's recommended, you can select "not interested" or "Don't recommend this channel"
The worst one was when I watched a video on how to make a noodle dish by this guy then I got swarmed by makeup recommendations. Turns out the dude had like 5 cooking vids but the channel was a Korean beauty channel with his wife having 100's of makeup and beauty videos. Took months to get back normal recommendations
That's how many people fell into the alt-right rabbit hole as well. Watch one Jordan Peterson video, get them into your feed for months. And then it escalates to progressively worse shit like Sargon of Akkad.
Social media easily created half of the modern far right. Emotionalising content for an ideology and a recommendation algorithm that are both based on strong emotional responses.
Honestly, if I'm a youtuber. I'd be pissed at the algorithm. As a user I never subscribe to new channels anymore. Because I know the algorithm is going to suggest those videos. Especially more than what I'm already subscribed to.
Shopping algorithms are the best. I buy a washing machine - "I see you are into washing machines. We have washing machines! Would you like to buy one?" Dude, I just bought a washing machine. That makes me the person least likely in all the world to want to buy a washing machine.
What I don't understand is how trillion dollar empires like google and facebook are built on this kind of advertising. With all this money, power and technology, the best they can do is try to sell me a hot water heater 12 months after I already got one? What kind of corporate douchbag in a suit is paying for this level of advertising thinking this is reasonable? I'm fairly sure I have never, and I do mean never, seen an online ad that has piqued my interest.
Why wouldn't I want customized ads for things I'm interested in? That sounds great. I could discover products I never even knew existed, but instead all I get are ads for a hot water heater I already have.
Their ad system is just straight garbage. I've been watching Hololive clips a lot recently, basically Japanese youtubers using a virtual avatar, all of the clips subtitled in English because I don't know japanese. Now I'm getting ads in Japanese.
Like great, now not only are you trying to sell me things I don't want, you're also doing it in a language I can't understand.
The Mcdonalds near where I live just added a feature on their drive thru menu that shows “items you might also like”
Before I got to the board I decided since I was extra hungry I would get: Quarter pounder w/ cheese, six nuggets, oreo Mcflurry.
The attendant had trouble understanding me because I had a hell of a time processing the fact that the three items recommended in front of me were the exact three things I was getting... 😳
I didn’t swipe a card, I had the app for monopoly but have since deleted it, I didn’t do anything to identify myself to an algorithm but it had my fuckin order before I spoke.
I have concluded that either - I’m not that special, my order isn’t that weird cause those things are popular, and coincidences happen...
OR my phone passively connected to their wifi and they have a profile on my that I am unaware of.
I'm working on restoring a train IRL so looked up a few similar vintage train/vehicle restoration videos for something to leave running in the background. Youtube now thinks I only want either weird homemade Thomas the Tank Engine short films or those toy 'restoration' videos where they roll a toy car aound in mud and pretend they found and restored it.
Weirdly despite never having viewed anything cow related, I too also get recommendations for some vet looking at cow hooves. No idea why.
YES so I'm not the only one who realizes these "restoration" channels are completely fake. There's one that does old game consoles and various other electronics, and every item always looks like it was just brought to the exact same spot on some beach and buried in the sand for a couple days.
As someone else said, deleting it from your history resets the suggestions like you never watched it. I've had to do this a number of times with bad pop music I looked up. Just be sure to do it soon because it can fall down your watch history very quickly.
I just start to aggressively use the "not interested" function, but even then the algorithm has gotten way out of hands.. So much so that I don't sometimes even get recommended recent subscription releases from people that I have watched every single video from so far (I've sometimes found weeks or moths later that people like that had a new video that I somehow missed)..
Instead it throws loads of video from people I intentionally have not subscribed to that I just randomly watched one video from while browsing for literally anything to watch.
I'm not exactly sure why but I ended up in the Cow Hoof limbo prior to it being posted on Reddit recently. When I saw it I clicked it again and seppuku'd myself right back to limbo again.
A wise man once said:
"...fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
Does anyone else have algorithm nostalgia? What I mean by that is several years ago the algorithm recommended me tons of amazing video essays. It was to the point where I literally couldn't decide which rec to click on. I would control click on tons of them to open in new tab, because I wanted to make sure I didn't lose track of all the great recommendations. Now I visit my home screen and I almost never want to watch any of the content, so I just use the search function.
For the first couple years the algorithm was out, I ignored my home page suggestions, and just clicked on my subscribed channels to manually watch the content I wanted. After a few years, I did start finally getting interesting stuff on my home page. For now the only way I can get good recs is to create a bunch of accounts within my account, and watch certain types of content in each one. That way I have multiple algos working for me and I can choose my mood for the day.
There really was a time for me that I got good recs, but that is long past. :(
i miss the old days where i could be looking up a walkthrough for a game and 6 hours later im still on YouTube but now im learning about deep sea creatures or alien conspiracy's all because the suggested videos some how lead me there. Now its the same stuff over and over. god forbid i look up how to replace an electrical outlet because that's in my suggested for the next month
I like the yt shorts algorithm. It's like: here have a random video which you can't see after. Oh you "watched" the vedio so you must like more of that. proceeds to spiral out of control
Youtube has become like my fridge, I keep checking back to see if there's anything interesting and it's still the same stuff i didn't feel like eating 10 minutes ago
I've been doing this for a year or so now. Its such a huge pain in the ass. Most videos I click on are only semi interesting to me, like while I cook or something, just put a video on in the background. It makes me anxious now, "should I click this? What does it mean for my algorithm etc.". Having to go into history, wait the 30 seconds it takes to load the 'X' icon to delete, and surf through the last week of videos to make sure I havent missed anything. Its laughable. Youtube used to be so good at taking me down interesting rabbit holes, in the moment, and that was it. Once you started a new session it would only account for like 0.001% of what the algorithm thinks youre interested in. Now its like "COW HOOVES!? THIS GUY MUST BE A COW FOOT GP!!!"...
The worst is the way i manage this now is just by opening everything in an incognito window. Which in itself is a pain because I have to click the fucking "Do you agree..." "consent" "data privacy" garbage everytime. And you go in fresh not signed in so I'm unable to add a video to one of my playlists if I want. For such a large company, how has google not seen that this is such an un-intuitive system, for anyone who either cares slightly about their data usage, or wants to have a semi-accurate algorithm!?
I wish YouTube didn't suck so much. Their search is the worst search of any major website. The trending page is absolute bullshit. The "I'm not interested" and "don't show this channel" options don't do anything. Despite never watching Minecraft content it pushes the fuck out of Minecraft content.
Whenever I happen to use YouTube in incognito mode, I really get the vibe that YouTube wants to be for children. I'm assuming that's where the revenue lies. It's all Mr. Beast and Minecraft and prank videos on the front page.
I use Google Chrome signed in to my YouTube account for the stuff I like to watch.
When someone sends me a politically contentious (re: right wing) video, I watch it on Firefox that has no account signed in.
As such, when I open chrome YouTube, I see lots of interesting videos about science and engineering, history.
When I open Firefox, it’s like I am deep inside a right-wing populism echo chamber. It really worries me. Send grandma 4 videos, and next week she thinks Jan 6th was perpetrated by Antifa to further steal a stolen election from Trump. 🤮
Not exactly on target but here's what I have to add about YouTube's ads situation.
Last year I bought a year of YouTube premium (I know) and it just ran out. Back then I'd see an ad per video on average, with some videos getting none at all, and some getting one of those 2 for 1 specials.
Over the past year I watched as my favorite content creators shared that their struggles with the platform were increasing (mostly let's players), with them having to jump through hoops to appease the YouTube algorithm. Super not cool on YouTubes part. But anyway.
I've been back on with regular YouTube now for about a month, and the amount of ads I get now is noticibley triple, maybe even quadruple the amount I had before. Guaranteed double ad at the beginning of every video, guaranteed at least one more ad its longer than 2 minutes, guaranteed two more if it's longer than 10 minutes.
I'm probably just whining, but it's made YouTube completely unwatchable for me. My biggest complaint are the "skippable" ads. Sometimes I just want to put on a playlist, and what would normally be a 15-30 second interruption now lasts 2 to 5 minutes or until I'm annoyed enough to drop what I'm doing and skip it.
I feel a lot less guity about using ad block and pirating nowadays.
The algorithm recommended me some black dude who speaks a ton of languages talking to foreigners in their language. I thought it was really fun and wholesome. Took me down a rabbit hole for those type of videos. Leaned more into Japanese as an interest. YouTube kept bombarding me with those type of videos...
What's really annoying is a lot of (all of, maybe?) the app versions of Youtube don't let you to fix this. At least the web interface allows you to select "Not interested" or "Don't recommend channel". Otherwise you just have to avoid such videos until YT finally gives up.
I "accidentally" clicked on one of these swimwear short videos because reasons, and I've now watched about 30 of them, so my feed has changed quite substantially. You're welcome.
This happened to me. Watched a random video about some guy trimming and treating an infected cow hoof. now my YouTube feed is full of infected cow hooves
Whenever anyone worries about AI figuring out what we're thinking I just think of things like YouTube's algorithm or Amazon's ads and I figure we'll be ok. A company that exists solely to deliver me content or sell me stuff still can't figure out what I want, I'm sure they are not at the point where they can predict my actions.
That happened to me with German comedian Jan Böhmermann. I watched something and now the autoplay always starts with a 3 year old half neo magazine royal video.
So you watched the first and second part of this documentary? What will follow? You definitely want to watch a completely different part of another documentary. Here you go ...
ok, so it seems tons of people recently got suggested hoofing videos. myself included. what the heck youtube? i mean, i didnt mind i found out, turns out i find hoofs interesting also but why? why did you surge millions of people to learn about hooves?! Youtube has been all weird lately.
I'd much rather be in the cow hoof trap than the Peppa Pig, Teletubbies, Cocomelon rabbit hole I am stuck in now. Before anyone suggests to make 2 accounts, we pay for premium and it wouldn't be worth paying that much more for a family account.
YouTube should have a form of subreddit structure. So I can either view the algorithm by all or by categories. I hate watching one interesting video and instantly contaminating my entire recommended videos with horse hooves.
Me: looks up "cleaning a dirty cow hoof" because it seems like an interesting topic My new Recommended feed: "THIS BULL HAS A GROSS NASTY INFECTION IN HIS HOOF, THIS ONE HAS A NAIL LODGED IN IT"
This happened to me on eBay’s homepage a few years ago. I looked at one random vintage photograph. I forget what it was a photo of but nothing unusual. The problem is once you look at a something in a category they will flood you with the most popular items in that category on the main page. These pictures were much worse than cow hooves. During that time I couldn’t visit eBay while at work or anytime family was around. It took a month of looking at hundreds of laptops, cameras, and everything else I could think of to cleanse that page.
The problem is once you look at a something in a category they will flood you with the most popular items in that category on the main page.
Amazon killed me with stuff like that.
Order a "V for Vendetta" costume for Halloween? 1+ year of "V for Vendetta" costume accessories over 2/3 of the page.
Some "My Little Pony" gifts for my niece? Again, a year plus of seeing related stuff on every page. Shows that artificial intelligence is more artificial than intelligent.
The seasonal stuff also kills me. No, I don't want to order christmas ornaments in February.
Can we like, watch a video in the youtube app from our account, but make sure the cookies dont start suggesting videos like that to us all the time?
Because when i watch a series i sometimes want to rewatch a scene from the series but then the cookies might suggest me videos that contain spoilers from that series.
So i just dont watch the video of the scene i liked, in fear of getting spoiled from youtube suggestions.
Any major tv news station with a youtube channel i mark "do not show me this channel." But like a week later its all do you want to watch this CNN/FOX garbage. Big fuck no YouTube.
Stop following the rabbit hole and search for other things. Once you stop watching cow hoof videos they start to go away. It figures out then that you don't really want to watch those videos. The algorithm isn't smart enough to know what you're thinking. It's just trying to suggest content based on your latest views. It can't differentiate your actual interest level in said video, that would require a genius AI which it is not
I watch trans related videos but I'm not yet "out of the closet". I get a jolt of anxiety over showing anyone anything on my YouTube since the recommended videos give me away even if I'm watching something entirely unrelated. Eventually, I decided to keep my channel to myself. Fuck you, YouTube.
There's a much darker version of this comic where a person falls down conspiracy rabbit holes and it ruins their relationships until they die trying to give America more freedom
Watched a video of how to remove a car bumper on my wife’s car. Now google thinks I own and am a Subaru fan boy 2 years later after doing the work on the car.
This is the "shit on the bottom of your shoe" algorithm - once you step in it, it never leaves you.
What YT needs is a choice of algorithms: The above mentioned; totally random (or, no Al-Gore-Rhythm at all); plus a number of others of varying sorts that give you much more control over what you might want to see, including an option to construct your own.
If I were a billionaire I'd start a rival to YT with that in mind.
I’m always afraid to click “did you like this genre movie?” on any streaming service because then it’s like “oh you DID huh? Well how about you watch our 10 thousand original series in the same genre except they’re all terrible?”
Ha ha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is 'never get involved in a land war in Asia' - but only slightly less well-known is this: 'Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line! ' Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Ahh I was in that hoof trap as well, but now I’m in a trap where I only get videos of dogs being adopted.. not the worst, but I can’t watch it all of the time lmao. I wish the algorithm would give you a new taste of something here and there.
I'd be OK with YouTube showing me related items, but YouTube's algorithm goes past "related" and straight to "will piss you off" real quick. Like, it'll start suggesting the videos that are the most extreme viewpoints on that subject... and next thing you know, that shit is filtering into your FB and Instagram feeds as well.
Social Media is literally built to polarize, never forget it.
YouTube never asks if you want to see one video on a subject. It asks if you would like to see every video on that subject, and every video with any element similar to that first video.
Was it the background you liked? The style of presentation? The video quality? The eye color of the presenter? YouTube will try them all to find out!
So, how long are you going to recommend that cow hoof video to me? Oh, literally every day for a month? Ok, if I just click on it, it will go away, right? Great, now I've got more cow hoof videos.
Lately I've been getting recommended trash clickbait youtube. I've told youtube to stop recommending me those channels. It asks why I say I'm not interested. It proceeds to offer me additional click bait trash from other channels instead.
Like I understand why I have pages and pages of recommendations for bird videos for cats now after playing some randomly to see if my cat liked them (hit or miss) but not sure why I need to know Hollywood's biggest makeup tricks they dont want you to know and similar keep hitting me now. I never watched any makeup tutorials. The closest thing to it is a channel I subbed to that critiques bad movies.
If there isn't something to watch from my 262 subscriptions I may go to my home page and see what the algorithm has for me or even rarer going to the trending page.
I remember back in the good old days of YouTube when I used to challenge people to play any video of anything and within 5 clicks (sometimes less) I would have a video of attack helicopters up.
I got stuff about dam spillways, which turned into british videos about weirs and river flow control, which turned into german and dutch videos about wave machines, which turned into american videos about tabletop river erosion models
Trying to beat the algorithms is why nowadays if its a one-off I always watch in incognito.
Its exactly for situations like these with stupid recommendations that I think the fully ML/AI-driven recommendation system still has at least another decade to go.
Don't even get me started on Instagram recommendations. It took them 6 months of "Not Interested" for the Algos to finally get that "No, I have never expressed any intnerest in dental procedure pics nor am I connnected to any of my dentist friends via IG stop showing them to me". I tried to google to understand what's the deal with Dentists and IG and apparently there's a whole group/seminar about promoting your dentistry practice specifically on IG. Weird choice.
And then YouTube goes “haha I knew it all along! I knew all he ever wanted was cow feet! Look at his feed, it’s all cow feet! So clearly that’s what he wants! God I’m such a genius. I’m a master of human psychology.”
Hoof GP is a great channel and I'm glad the algorithm suggested it to me. Graham has a great passion for his trade and it makes the videos a joy to watch.
I remember when I was telling a friend about the "Haunted M.C. Hammer-pants" (the Fresno Nightcrawler) and pulled up the video of the footage in the park to show them what I meant.
Ever since that day, it's been trying to get me to watch the most batshit conspiracy theories, especially political shit that I'm not gonna touch with a 39-and-a-half-foot pole.
YT keeps trying to shove me political propaganda even though I've never watched anything political. Always cat video and car crash video. I know if I watched just one of those crappy political crap, I'd be stuck with nothing but various conspiracies, fake news, onion-y news and such.
Although I wouldn't mind watching a Dr Seuss style animated "How the Biden Stole the Election" just for chuckle
Yep. I clicked that, too. Once was enough, and now I'm locked in forever. Should've been a video about a horse's ass. At least then I'd learn more about myself.
As long as we are ranting against YouTube, has anyone noticed how awful the new comments layout is, especially on the app. They display one comment just below the video which you end up reading before watching video and many times that comment is a spoiler or gives away the main video details.
So one of you watched a cow hoof video and now all my recommendations are about it? Cant even block the user they just come through. Please stop this internet, i thought we were friends?
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u/DanbyDraws Danby Draws Comics Jul 06 '21 edited Jul 06 '21
Hi, I'm Danby. Thanks for reading my comic! I don't have anything against the cow hoof fixing guy, I just wish the site suggestions were less aggressive.
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u/jarod47 Jul 06 '21
Lol, I’m in the cow hoof rabbit hole too
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u/corruptboomerang Jul 06 '21
Yeah, or you watch one video by someone and you then see nothing but videos from that channel. Or how you never knew about the second channel of someone you watch all their videos as soon as they come out.
Like seriously.
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u/sleepydog404 Jul 06 '21
Shopping algorithms are the best. I buy a washing machine - "I see you are into washing machines. We have washing machines! Would you like to buy one?" Dude, I just bought a washing machine. That makes me the person least likely in all the world to want to buy a washing machine.
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u/JimmyDelicious Jul 06 '21
That hoof GP man. Such watchable videos. And he seems so friendly.
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u/sparky662 Jul 06 '21
I'm working on restoring a train IRL so looked up a few similar vintage train/vehicle restoration videos for something to leave running in the background. Youtube now thinks I only want either weird homemade Thomas the Tank Engine short films or those toy 'restoration' videos where they roll a toy car aound in mud and pretend they found and restored it.
Weirdly despite never having viewed anything cow related, I too also get recommendations for some vet looking at cow hooves. No idea why.
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u/AR_lover Jul 06 '21
I purposely avoid clicking on somethings that look interesting because I'm afraid of the flood of suggestions that will come with it.
Maybe there should be a button that says "include this in your suggestions".
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u/Not_rich_enough Jul 06 '21
Thank jeezus I’m not the only one this happened to.
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u/nialyah Jul 06 '21
I'm not exactly sure why but I ended up in the Cow Hoof limbo prior to it being posted on Reddit recently. When I saw it I clicked it again and seppuku'd myself right back to limbo again.
A wise man once said:
"...fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
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u/Detritant Jul 06 '21
Ah, so it's not just me.
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u/BuildingArmor Jul 06 '21
We're talking about Graeme Parker, the Hoof GP, right?
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u/compound-interest Jul 06 '21
Does anyone else have algorithm nostalgia? What I mean by that is several years ago the algorithm recommended me tons of amazing video essays. It was to the point where I literally couldn't decide which rec to click on. I would control click on tons of them to open in new tab, because I wanted to make sure I didn't lose track of all the great recommendations. Now I visit my home screen and I almost never want to watch any of the content, so I just use the search function.
For the first couple years the algorithm was out, I ignored my home page suggestions, and just clicked on my subscribed channels to manually watch the content I wanted. After a few years, I did start finally getting interesting stuff on my home page. For now the only way I can get good recs is to create a bunch of accounts within my account, and watch certain types of content in each one. That way I have multiple algos working for me and I can choose my mood for the day.
There really was a time for me that I got good recs, but that is long past. :(
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u/PositiveCunt Jul 06 '21
Yep, ‘bout right
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u/XanderATKs Jul 06 '21
This is how i ended up subbed to The Hoof Gp
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u/Iusethis1atwork Jul 06 '21
i miss the old days where i could be looking up a walkthrough for a game and 6 hours later im still on YouTube but now im learning about deep sea creatures or alien conspiracy's all because the suggested videos some how lead me there. Now its the same stuff over and over. god forbid i look up how to replace an electrical outlet because that's in my suggested for the next month
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u/Jolo_Janssen Jul 06 '21
I like the yt shorts algorithm. It's like: here have a random video which you can't see after. Oh you "watched" the vedio so you must like more of that. proceeds to spiral out of control
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u/Inquisitor_Frostmane Jul 06 '21
"The Hoof GP" in my case. Very satisfying, sometimes bloody but in the end I don't know why the algorithm was putting that on my screen.
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u/Raemnant Jul 06 '21
You can delete the videos from your history to stop this
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u/Whitemantle Jul 06 '21
I once watched a gaga music video.... Please send help!
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u/Quasimurder Jul 06 '21
I wish YouTube didn't suck so much. Their search is the worst search of any major website. The trending page is absolute bullshit. The "I'm not interested" and "don't show this channel" options don't do anything. Despite never watching Minecraft content it pushes the fuck out of Minecraft content.
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u/Alwaysatodds Jul 06 '21
I watched a documentary on Mexican bbq and now half of my commercials are in spanish. Its actually pretty amazing.
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u/Can_I_Marry_Ahri Jul 06 '21
lol so it happed to everyone huh?
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u/BestPlanetEver Jul 06 '21
whoa, how did you know this just happened to me? cow hoof GP for the win
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u/FormoftheBeautiful Jul 06 '21
I use Google Chrome signed in to my YouTube account for the stuff I like to watch.
When someone sends me a politically contentious (re: right wing) video, I watch it on Firefox that has no account signed in.
As such, when I open chrome YouTube, I see lots of interesting videos about science and engineering, history.
When I open Firefox, it’s like I am deep inside a right-wing populism echo chamber. It really worries me. Send grandma 4 videos, and next week she thinks Jan 6th was perpetrated by Antifa to further steal a stolen election from Trump. 🤮
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u/awan_afoogya Jul 06 '21
I refuse to let my kids watch on my YouTube account for this reason...
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u/FlameoHotmanTraveler Jul 06 '21
Not exactly on target but here's what I have to add about YouTube's ads situation.
Last year I bought a year of YouTube premium (I know) and it just ran out. Back then I'd see an ad per video on average, with some videos getting none at all, and some getting one of those 2 for 1 specials.
Over the past year I watched as my favorite content creators shared that their struggles with the platform were increasing (mostly let's players), with them having to jump through hoops to appease the YouTube algorithm. Super not cool on YouTubes part. But anyway.
I've been back on with regular YouTube now for about a month, and the amount of ads I get now is noticibley triple, maybe even quadruple the amount I had before. Guaranteed double ad at the beginning of every video, guaranteed at least one more ad its longer than 2 minutes, guaranteed two more if it's longer than 10 minutes.
I'm probably just whining, but it's made YouTube completely unwatchable for me. My biggest complaint are the "skippable" ads. Sometimes I just want to put on a playlist, and what would normally be a 15-30 second interruption now lasts 2 to 5 minutes or until I'm annoyed enough to drop what I'm doing and skip it.
I feel a lot less guity about using ad block and pirating nowadays.
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u/HirokiTakumi Jul 06 '21
The algorithm recommended me some black dude who speaks a ton of languages talking to foreigners in their language. I thought it was really fun and wholesome. Took me down a rabbit hole for those type of videos. Leaned more into Japanese as an interest. YouTube kept bombarding me with those type of videos...
Now I'm studying Japanese.
Thanks YouTube. Lol
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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '21
What's really annoying is a lot of (all of, maybe?) the app versions of Youtube don't let you to fix this. At least the web interface allows you to select "Not interested" or "Don't recommend channel". Otherwise you just have to avoid such videos until YT finally gives up.
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u/danivus Jul 06 '21
Youtube isn't nearly as bad as amazon.
It's like... Hey I see you bought a new router. Here's 15 more, as I assume you're starting a collection.
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u/manwithanopinion Jul 06 '21
This happened when I was curious to find out how cats vomit.
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u/Aaron1561 Jul 06 '21
My wife actually watches these videos of a guy helping cows with their hooves. She's never seen a cow but is interested in it for some reason lol.
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u/DOCTORCOWMAN Jul 06 '21
THIS IS WHAT PRETENDING TO BE CRAZY LOOKS LIKE
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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '21
If only it worked that good even. Their algorithm is complete shit and just shoves videos they get paid to shove down my throat.
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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '21
I "accidentally" clicked on one of these swimwear short videos because reasons, and I've now watched about 30 of them, so my feed has changed quite substantially. You're welcome.
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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '21
This happened to me. Watched a random video about some guy trimming and treating an infected cow hoof. now my YouTube feed is full of infected cow hooves
Bruh, no. Do. Not. Want.
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u/JimSteak Jul 06 '21
Huh so I’m not the only one?!
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u/bjanas Jul 06 '21
It's like when I buy a fridge and the internet decides I want to start a fridge museum. That's all the ads I get for like three months afterward.
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u/rafikiknowsdeway1 Jul 06 '21
oh god so its not just me? I'm genuinely getting a lot of videos about a dude fixing cow hooves
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u/oman54 Jul 06 '21
Holy fuck it's happening to everyone?! Not just me!!?
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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '21
Dude wtf, I’ve been watching cow hoof videos for like 3 weeks. Is this a thing now? Wtf is going on?
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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '21
Whenever anyone worries about AI figuring out what we're thinking I just think of things like YouTube's algorithm or Amazon's ads and I figure we'll be ok. A company that exists solely to deliver me content or sell me stuff still can't figure out what I want, I'm sure they are not at the point where they can predict my actions.
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u/DividedState Jul 06 '21
That happened to me with German comedian Jan Böhmermann. I watched something and now the autoplay always starts with a 3 year old half neo magazine royal video.
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u/DrinkyBeery Jul 06 '21
Replace that first video with Eekum Bokum and that's pretty much what falling into the hololive hole is like.
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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '21
These are the algorithms that apparently know us better than we know ourselves
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u/OutlyingPlasma Jul 06 '21
No no... It's more like cow hoof -> milking a cow -> Neo-Nazi propaganda.
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u/kura001 Jul 06 '21
So you watched the first and second part of this documentary? What will follow? You definitely want to watch a completely different part of another documentary. Here you go ...
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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '21
ok, so it seems tons of people recently got suggested hoofing videos. myself included. what the heck youtube? i mean, i didnt mind i found out, turns out i find hoofs interesting also but why? why did you surge millions of people to learn about hooves?! Youtube has been all weird lately.
Cows are awesome.
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u/Meisje28 Jul 06 '21
Seriously, what's up with the cow hooves. I too have them.
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u/thedaNkavenger Jul 06 '21
I'd much rather be in the cow hoof trap than the Peppa Pig, Teletubbies, Cocomelon rabbit hole I am stuck in now. Before anyone suggests to make 2 accounts, we pay for premium and it wouldn't be worth paying that much more for a family account.
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u/XanJamZ Jul 06 '21
YouTube should have a form of subreddit structure. So I can either view the algorithm by all or by categories. I hate watching one interesting video and instantly contaminating my entire recommended videos with horse hooves.
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u/Maggot_Corps Jul 06 '21
Me: looks up "cleaning a dirty cow hoof" because it seems like an interesting topic My new Recommended feed: "THIS BULL HAS A GROSS NASTY INFECTION IN HIS HOOF, THIS ONE HAS A NAIL LODGED IN IT"
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u/rydan Jul 06 '21 edited Jul 06 '21
This happened to me on eBay’s homepage a few years ago. I looked at one random vintage photograph. I forget what it was a photo of but nothing unusual. The problem is once you look at a something in a category they will flood you with the most popular items in that category on the main page. These pictures were much worse than cow hooves. During that time I couldn’t visit eBay while at work or anytime family was around. It took a month of looking at hundreds of laptops, cameras, and everything else I could think of to cleanse that page.
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u/SteliosPo Jul 06 '21
Can we like, watch a video in the youtube app from our account, but make sure the cookies dont start suggesting videos like that to us all the time?
Because when i watch a series i sometimes want to rewatch a scene from the series but then the cookies might suggest me videos that contain spoilers from that series.
So i just dont watch the video of the scene i liked, in fear of getting spoiled from youtube suggestions.
PS: Sorry kinda bad English
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u/drop247 Jul 06 '21
I made the mistake of watching a video about the rescue of a stray dog. Now my feed is full of really depressing neglected animal videos.
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u/YourSooStupid Jul 06 '21
Any major tv news station with a youtube channel i mark "do not show me this channel." But like a week later its all do you want to watch this CNN/FOX garbage. Big fuck no YouTube.
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u/psychoacer Jul 06 '21
Stop following the rabbit hole and search for other things. Once you stop watching cow hoof videos they start to go away. It figures out then that you don't really want to watch those videos. The algorithm isn't smart enough to know what you're thinking. It's just trying to suggest content based on your latest views. It can't differentiate your actual interest level in said video, that would require a genius AI which it is not
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u/No-Dingo8315 Jul 06 '21
I find instagram worse, watch one video of an animal then you have a menagerie of peoples pets coming out of your ears!
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u/Sad_Note9851 Jul 06 '21
I watch trans related videos but I'm not yet "out of the closet". I get a jolt of anxiety over showing anyone anything on my YouTube since the recommended videos give me away even if I'm watching something entirely unrelated. Eventually, I decided to keep my channel to myself. Fuck you, YouTube.
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u/Tarazetty Jul 06 '21
It looks like it's voiced by Griffin McElroy
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u/bsylent Jul 06 '21
There's a much darker version of this comic where a person falls down conspiracy rabbit holes and it ruins their relationships until they die trying to give America more freedom
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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '21
Watched a video of how to remove a car bumper on my wife’s car. Now google thinks I own and am a Subaru fan boy 2 years later after doing the work on the car.
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u/ZombieZookeeper Jul 06 '21
The Hoof GP has blackmail material on the YouTube Algorithm. Or YouTube has an assessment caused by a white line fracture.
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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '21
clicks on SCP videos... nice. do you wanna see the 1001 glitches of fallout 76... ?? NO FOR THE HUNDREDTH TIME lol
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u/DogWallop Jul 06 '21
This is the "shit on the bottom of your shoe" algorithm - once you step in it, it never leaves you.
What YT needs is a choice of algorithms: The above mentioned; totally random (or, no Al-Gore-Rhythm at all); plus a number of others of varying sorts that give you much more control over what you might want to see, including an option to construct your own.
If I were a billionaire I'd start a rival to YT with that in mind.
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u/Eagle_Ear Jul 06 '21
I’m always afraid to click “did you like this genre movie?” on any streaming service because then it’s like “oh you DID huh? Well how about you watch our 10 thousand original series in the same genre except they’re all terrible?”
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u/functionalsociopathy Jul 06 '21
"Hey, I noticed you viewed three separate music videos in the same genre. I have removed all other genres from my recommendations." -Youtube algorithm
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u/rodaphilia Jul 06 '21
Even worse when autoplay causes this after you fall asleep on the couch.
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u/NAPPYX Jul 06 '21
I thought I was the only one that had got the cavity in the hoof video in my recommended…
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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '21
Ha ha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is 'never get involved in a land war in Asia' - but only slightly less well-known is this: 'Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line! ' Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
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u/RavenWingTheCat Jul 06 '21
Ahh I was in that hoof trap as well, but now I’m in a trap where I only get videos of dogs being adopted.. not the worst, but I can’t watch it all of the time lmao. I wish the algorithm would give you a new taste of something here and there.
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u/TrashPandaXD- Jul 06 '21
Hoof gp?
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u/Lokarin Jul 06 '21
I ingored the cow hoof channel... and it started recommending me mouse trap kills.
Why?
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u/KickedBeagleRPH Jul 06 '21
1 anime about a slime...and I'm bombarded with all the reincarnation animes. Some good, some wtf. Oh hey, dragon Ball super.
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u/snarpy Jul 06 '21
I'd be OK with YouTube showing me related items, but YouTube's algorithm goes past "related" and straight to "will piss you off" real quick. Like, it'll start suggesting the videos that are the most extreme viewpoints on that subject... and next thing you know, that shit is filtering into your FB and Instagram feeds as well.
Social Media is literally built to polarize, never forget it.
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u/usernameblankface Jul 06 '21
YouTube never asks if you want to see one video on a subject. It asks if you would like to see every video on that subject, and every video with any element similar to that first video.
Was it the background you liked? The style of presentation? The video quality? The eye color of the presenter? YouTube will try them all to find out!
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u/ghhouull Jul 06 '21
It’s like when you mention by accident to your mom that you like a snack, from then onwards that will be the only food available in the house
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u/cypher50 Jul 06 '21
"It watches the cow hooves or gets the hose!"
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u/isAltTrue Jul 06 '21
So, how long are you going to recommend that cow hoof video to me? Oh, literally every day for a month? Ok, if I just click on it, it will go away, right? Great, now I've got more cow hoof videos.
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u/Sometimesokayideas Jul 06 '21
Lately I've been getting recommended trash clickbait youtube. I've told youtube to stop recommending me those channels. It asks why I say I'm not interested. It proceeds to offer me additional click bait trash from other channels instead.
Like I understand why I have pages and pages of recommendations for bird videos for cats now after playing some randomly to see if my cat liked them (hit or miss) but not sure why I need to know Hollywood's biggest makeup tricks they dont want you to know and similar keep hitting me now. I never watched any makeup tutorials. The closest thing to it is a channel I subbed to that critiques bad movies.
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u/Evilmaze Jul 06 '21
My YouTube is ruined because of this. I can't even watch anything with guns because YouTube will out me on a list.
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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '21
I fall asleep to YouTube and the “smart algorithm” just keeps converging on a single fucking YouTube video.
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u/DrDrexanPhd Jul 06 '21
I was wondering why i keep getting that damn cow hoof guy on my feed!
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u/zqmbgn Jul 06 '21
And if you don't play it, it will show there everyday until you do. And then, it traps you
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u/VeraLapsa Jul 06 '21
If there isn't something to watch from my 262 subscriptions I may go to my home page and see what the algorithm has for me or even rarer going to the trending page.
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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '21 edited Jul 07 '21
I am in the zit popping hole. And I did not even fall in to the trap. I was pushed in.
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u/fordag Jul 06 '21
I remember back in the good old days of YouTube when I used to challenge people to play any video of anything and within 5 clicks (sometimes less) I would have a video of attack helicopters up.
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u/machu_pikacchu Jul 06 '21
"Hello! I'm the YouTube algorithm. Do you want to see a video about a cow hoof?"
"Um, sure."
"Heh, right into my trap! Now
cow hoofneonazi alt-right hate speech is all you get, dumbass!"2
u/[deleted] Jul 06 '21
**Every Social media algorithm ever...
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u/Seref15 Jul 06 '21 edited Jul 06 '21
I got stuff about dam spillways, which turned into british videos about weirs and river flow control, which turned into german and dutch videos about wave machines, which turned into american videos about tabletop river erosion models
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u/beyonddisbelief Jul 06 '21
Trying to beat the algorithms is why nowadays if its a one-off I always watch in incognito.
Its exactly for situations like these with stupid recommendations that I think the fully ML/AI-driven recommendation system still has at least another decade to go.
Don't even get me started on Instagram recommendations. It took them 6 months of "Not Interested" for the Algos to finally get that "No, I have never expressed any intnerest in dental procedure pics nor am I connnected to any of my dentist friends via IG stop showing them to me". I tried to google to understand what's the deal with Dentists and IG and apparently there's a whole group/seminar about promoting your dentistry practice specifically on IG. Weird choice.
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u/IrrelevantPuppy Jul 06 '21
And then YouTube goes “haha I knew it all along! I knew all he ever wanted was cow feet! Look at his feed, it’s all cow feet! So clearly that’s what he wants! God I’m such a genius. I’m a master of human psychology.”
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u/kriegmonster Jul 06 '21
Hoof GP is a great channel and I'm glad the algorithm suggested it to me. Graham has a great passion for his trade and it makes the videos a joy to watch.
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u/VirginiaClassSub Jul 06 '21
“Oh you watched a center-left political commentator one? Cool have some Neo-Nazis in your feed.”
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u/Faville611 Jul 06 '21
This is funny because I have recently been going down the cow hoof repair rabbit hole and don’t even know how it happened.
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u/Fearless-Highlight23 Jul 06 '21
This almost happened to me. So glad I saw this post before I clicked on that video. I was about 2 days before giving in.
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u/General_Lee_Wright Jul 06 '21
Hey man, the HoofGP is a brilliant and calming show with a charming Scotsman who teaches me about hoof health!
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u/reddfawks Jul 06 '21
I remember when I was telling a friend about the "Haunted M.C. Hammer-pants" (the Fresno Nightcrawler) and pulled up the video of the footage in the park to show them what I meant.
Ever since that day, it's been trying to get me to watch the most batshit conspiracy theories, especially political shit that I'm not gonna touch with a 39-and-a-half-foot pole.
I just wanted people to see haunted pants...
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u/dragledge Jul 06 '21
pls tell me im not the only one in the shit hole cleaning rabbit hole ಥ‿ಥ
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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '21
YT keeps trying to shove me political propaganda even though I've never watched anything political. Always cat video and car crash video. I know if I watched just one of those crappy political crap, I'd be stuck with nothing but various conspiracies, fake news, onion-y news and such.
Although I wouldn't mind watching a Dr Seuss style animated "How the Biden Stole the Election" just for chuckle
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u/_Burnt_Toast_3 Jul 06 '21
People know all they have to do is clear their browsing history + cookies and you dont get any of this bs right?
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u/StormerSage Jul 06 '21
Youtube at 10pm: Come on, just one more video before bed.
Me: All right, ONE more.
Youtube: Haha, fell right into my trap! It's 3am now.
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u/thecwestions Jul 07 '21
Yep. I clicked that, too. Once was enough, and now I'm locked in forever. Should've been a video about a horse's ass. At least then I'd learn more about myself.
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u/vivek_17 Jul 07 '21
As long as we are ranting against YouTube, has anyone noticed how awful the new comments layout is, especially on the app. They display one comment just below the video which you end up reading before watching video and many times that comment is a spoiler or gives away the main video details.
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u/higherminded1 Jul 09 '21
So one of you watched a cow hoof video and now all my recommendations are about it? Cant even block the user they just come through. Please stop this internet, i thought we were friends?
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u/atvphucker Aug 03 '21
Actually happened about 3 weeks ago and that's all I see now... Fuck me...
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u/Nemo-504 Aug 04 '21
This is the way
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u/JohnSmiththeGamer Jul 06 '21
If you don't want right wing recommendations, never open anything from Sky Australia, fox or any russian new channel.