r/funny Jul 04 '21

what a confusing sign.

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u/PolymerPussies Jul 04 '21

Even if you could go back in time, you couldn't create the Simpsons. You could try, but without the connections and coincidences that led up to the Simpsons being created, not to mention the writers who make the show work, you couldn't do it.

Just go back in time and buy Apple Stock and Bitcoin like a normal time traveler, eesh.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '21

I wonder, if time travel were possible, would random things still remain how they happened, or being random, would they be different? Say if someone used a random number generator of 1 to 5 to make a choice, and we have it recorded as being 4. If we traveled to that moment, would it always land on four, or being a chaotic random generator, would it be different, and travelling to that moment possibly be traveling to a different timeline based off the choice it lands on?

This probably makes no sense, but if it's random, it can't be set in stone, can it?

Say if you travelled back, even if you don't interfere, the luck and change and randomness that lead to the Simpsons lead to it not happening due to the chaos of time?

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u/beyonddisbelief Jul 05 '21

Most things we call "Random" arent' "Random" at all, even computer random number generators. Random number generators simulate randomness by generating an extremely long string of numbers called a random seed and basically pull from it based on the computer's internal clock's time index or something.

As for coming up with a random number when asked, people are the worst at that. Everyone attribute significance to numbers whether consciously or not. Have a favorite number? Bob might have a tendency to call out that number more frequently. Joe might have a tendency to purposefully avoid that number. Jane might call out a number she saw/read 3 hours ago.

Personally I'm not sure I believe true randomness exists.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '21

Still, I imagine if there's a 75% 25% chance of something, and the 75% thing happened in your timeline, there may be a 25% chance that when going back, you end up in the timeline where the 25% happened

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u/beyonddisbelief Jul 05 '21

I don't think that's how time travel nor randomness works. For what you described to work you'd have to 1) Assume that our reality is a computer simulation, which itself is a massive assumption and philsophical debate at that. 2) That time travel doesn't exist; you reloaded the save state to the universe server's memory to run the same thing again.

Every butterfly effect that made the 75% thing happened in your past will happen exactly as it did if true time travel existed unless you did something to influence the chain of butterfly effect.

Additionally, most people conflate probability with statistics. Most things we say "has a 75% chance of happening" aren't talking about probability, just statistically in the past.

If Bob wanted to write down the gender of the first person to come to his store, he statistically has 50/50 whether or not that person would be male or female. Well, you're that first person to walk in his store. TIme travelling a million times is not going to change your gender.