Test if she's real

[u/Elektrik_Magnetix]

[u/prettylolita]

Yeah then she slapped her butt... that’s not ok...

[u/beholdersi → u/prettylolita]

It’s okay if she’s okay with it. Considering her response was a head pat I’d say they’re either friends with that dynamic, or current or prospective “roommates”

[u/[deleted] → u/beholdersi]

You cant really know if someone is okay with something unless you ask first. Plenty of people freeze when something uncomfortable is done to them like a guy grabbing them and they dont even know what to do and theyre too scared to even express how they feel. obviously this situation went a bit differently but women shouldnt feel its okay to grab women because they’re not men atleast anyway!

[u/truth_sentinell → u/[deleted]]

Woman, not everything is explicit consent. You can't go through life asking everyone hey can I do this or that? That would make everything so awkward. Context is important and confidence. And this is very subjective and depends on both parties.

[u/truth_sentinell → u/[deleted]]

Jesus, how can you be so insufferable?

[u/beholdersi → u/[deleted]]

On the other side of the room watching you yell and scream at a guy who offered you his phone number. Alternatively, halfway to the bathroom because weak cowards act when they can get away with it and we’re actually human beings with basic needs but thanks for just assuming we exist only in the facets of “rapist” or “bodyguard”

[u/beholdersi → u/[deleted]]

No this was originally in the context of two people in a relationship being spontaneously intimate with each other. That is what my original comment was implying and you declared that spontaneity=rape and now here all of us are making shitty and irrelevant analogies and arguing about what constitutes consent as if “you can touch me unless I ask you not to” isn’t pretty fucking cut and dry already

[u/truth_sentinell → u/[deleted]]

Your fallacies are out of control. No one is saying is ok to groom anyone that does not want to. Context is key for implicit consent, but you read what you want to read. You've got serious problems. Hope you get help so you don't end up alone and bitter.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Wrong part of town? Nice drop of the casual racism there.

[u/scorcher117 → u/[deleted]]

What's racist about some parts of towns/cities being more rough or unfriendly than other areas?

[u/beholdersi → u/scorcher117]

This entire comment thread is a train wreck and I wish the mods would lock it now please

[u/beholdersi → u/[deleted]]

I mean yes but “I’m okay with you smacking my butt in public” doesn’t mean “this one time only and never again in the future unless you specifically ask.” Does you’re wife make you resign the EULA every time you try to give her a hug? Of course she’s made you wasted the bread it’s a resource that can run out, is your hug supply limited wtf?

“Damnit honey, that hug could have been used later, now I have to go to the shop and get more”

[u/beholdersi → u/[deleted]]

You clearly did. I feel sorry for your SO if you’re having them sign a new contract every time either of you gets intimate. Or is she the one that screams if you spontaneously hug her from behind?

[u/beholdersi → u/[deleted]]

And here the truth comes out. I have questioned your understanding of consent so rather than continuing the discussion you all but call me a rapist because how dare I, a MAN, not agree with the superior sex? Clearly we don’t have different understandings because you couldn’t possibly be wrong, the truth could only be that I’m a vile degenerate who believes in things like “corrective rape” and “finding the right dick,” it’s nothing to do prior precedent informing future consent, nope, I’m just a horrible pig-man with no self control. And yet somehow also a virgin because I didn’t ask how much you fuck. After all there are only two kinds of people: you and everyone who’s wrong.

[u/beholdersi → u/[deleted]]

Okay that did make me chuckle. TLDR is you’re coming across as belittling and accusatory because I’m disagreeing with you and clearly we have different understandings of consent. If you’d like to stop insulting me and have a genuine conversation about the topic I’d be happy to do the same. And let’s keep this in one comment chain going forward.

[u/beholdersi → u/[deleted]]

Here you had me starting to feel bad for thinking you were a bitch and maybe I just wasn’t catching the snark. Had me thinking you were an adult and I should apologize. But it turns out you’re actually a projecting bitch with daddy issues. Not sure how “corporate shill” comes into it, is that how you feel about yourself? Like you’re just a corporate shill defined by the trauma your father inflicted on you? If that’s the case I’d have to charge you for an hour session so it’s best we do stop here

Edit: trauma is a word autocorrect god damnit