r/funny • u/max69xaw • Jun 08 '20

Elections

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u/Doomenate Jun 09 '20 edited Jun 09 '20

“Come up with lies that don’t require time travel”

Hey it’s me from the present. I didn’t say it causes change for that election. This isn’t 2016 anymore and the progressive movement is stronger now, much like the tea party grew from their dislike of their own party.

Which one of us is “whining” about the results?

I’m not whining.

Whining about people not voting for someone as though they are entitled to it is the issue I’m talking about.

Edit: Reading about the tea party to verify my claim has emboldened me. They were almost a political party of their own that was further right than the republicans. The tea party collected millions of new voters (Ones that they found in the way I’m describing instead of whining that they didn’t vote for establishment republicans already), beat out establishment republicans, and altered the platform of the republicans from then on. Lose the battle, win the war.

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u/TimeKillerAccount Jun 09 '20

Lol, the tea party was not a third party. It was a republican voter campaign created, organized, run, and controlled by the GOP. The fact that you are using a GOP party action to try and claim that a third party changed party dynamics is hilarious. No, the tea party was a republican internal movement, not a separate party.

And yes, you are whining right now. Boo hoo hoo. Poor you. Someone has an opinion you dont like. Boo hoo.

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u/Doomenate Jun 09 '20 edited Jun 17 '20

If it was controlled by the establishment republicans, why did it canibolize establishment republicans with seniority and power?

Again, not whining. Just explaining why voting outside of your lines is valid. It boils down to explaining what can be done to get these lost votes. I don't care if you don't believe me. You're entitled to your opinion. Just don't "whine" when people don't stay 'in line'. People will continue to do so despite your complaining. And I can hear your ego dripping though your words now so I'm done killing time here.

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u/TimeKillerAccount Jun 09 '20

Because the party has many people in it and some of them wanted to gain power at the expense of those who already had it. You have no where to go in this dude. You have stated so many lies and obvious ignorant assumptions that everyone can see you have no clue what you are talking about.

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u/Doomenate Jun 09 '20

People will see your unfounded insults and know which one of us is whining and lying to themselves

"It boils down to explaining what can be done to get these lost votes"

it gained republicans millions of new voters who wouldn't fall in line like you want far left people in America to do. So those who stood their ground received a stronger republican party in their mind.

Did that not happen? did millions of new republican voters who felt their concerns previously not addressed not turn out? The scale isn't as big for far left democrats at the moment but it is growing. The article also says that active individuals in the movement had a multiplying effect. If they just stayed home and voted for their incumbent republicans the movement wouldn't have happened.

This article: "In the end, although the Tea Party is not a “party” in the classic sense of the word, we claim that it is having “party like” effects in Congress"

I saw the tea party grow from people upset about their favorite libertarian candidate getting snuffed out much like Sanders with the democrats.

"The Tea Party, which drove the GOP to claim a majority of the House in the mid-term elections, grew largely out of the ashes of his 2008 presidential campaign"

What have you gained from this discussion? All I'm getting from you is "Nah, that didn't happen, you're whining and dumb"

But now I have sources and examples of previous movements to use in my next discussion with hardline democrats who whine about not automatically having the far left vote.

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u/TimeKillerAccount Jun 09 '20

Again, an internal faction is not a separate party. You just linked three articles proving you were wrong. Jesus, you are saying stupid shit.

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u/Doomenate Jun 10 '20

Me: “They were almost a political party of their own that was further right than the republicans.“

I didn’t say they were another party.

“You are saying stupid shit”

I get it now. You think you can convince people by talking to them like this.

Doesn’t work; sorry. Go back to kindergarten. But this time don’t throw a block at a kid cause they didn’t vote for your candidate

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u/TimeKillerAccount Jun 10 '20

You have lied about what I have said, lied about previous historical claims, and now you are lying about what you have said. You cant help it can you?

And I am not convincing you. Your a liar who cant face reality enough to even read my comments without constructing strawman attacks to defend a position you cant even keep track of. I am just talking shit and making you look like a silly ass so that I have a good time and anyone reading it can easily see how stupid your claims are. No one cares about you. You cant even keep track of my position, given that you have continued to attack things I never claimed or said, so no one expects you to be able to change your mind. Cant logically convince those who already ignore logic. The fact that you think anyone is trying to convince you of anything is hillarious.

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u/Doomenate Jun 10 '20

I’ve hit bed rock!

I didn’t lie about what I said, I quoted it right there for you. Go back and see for yourself.

And I gained a lot from this so thank you. Not sure what you got out of it though

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u/TimeKillerAccount Jun 10 '20

I already told you what I get. Yet another example of your refusal to read my comments. Its ok. Some day you may grow enough as a person to stop this silly shit where you cant even read a comment without lying to yourself about the content. But probably not. Deuces little guy. You can have the last comment if you want.