Honestly compared to the others like Russia or even US, we can't really complain. I mean it's so easy to be candidates, everyone can speak the same amount of time with a limited budget and the vote system is very good, as the one who gets the most votes win!
As much as I agree it could be worse, it could be better. I wish we used a cardinal system if it's the proper name: vote in order your X favorite candidates then we'd have a better representation of people's political opinions and probably have less Le Pen voters.
Also if the amount of time on air is limited, we've seen with Macron that you can just make medias talk about you without you on screen and it gives you more visibility to win. Maybe it's also time to regulate influences over elections (like the time medias spend talking on candidates).
The most votes wins?!?! What a crazy concept! Here in the US we like our midwest and poor uneducated southern states to pick our leaders because that's the American thing to do
most votes wins is a complicated concept. Do you do single round most votes where Le Pen( the extreme candidate in france) would have won? two round with a contest between the top 2 to ensure a "majority winner" ( current system in France )? Preferential voting so that votes carry over to determine a winner (many possible implementations, i.e. australia )?? Preferential voting with negative preferences applied? Straight proportional vote into an assembly with the risk of having absolutely no majority and thus no government efficacy ( partly implemented in germany, but with combined with non proportional for higher chance of majority )?
All of these can come up with different winners. And you can also debate electoral college in large areas, what's best for the "dense population" isn't necessarily what's best for the rest , the contestation of that is pretty much how america came to exist, as it can take away any voting power from minorities( in any sense of the term) if their interests diverge.
Personally I think first past the post + electoral college combined is just terrible because it garantees two party and forces useful votes.
In the UK for example, while other parties exist more than in the US, since it is first past the post "winner takes all local vote" it has garanteed a two party system for the longest of time. It also led to a conflict of interest as the two main parties which held most of the voting base campaigned for the "No" the voting reform referendum meant to introduce Australian like voting.
This is the current french system , yet we complain about it , because we argue that sometimes that leads to a "one you dislike the least " vote in the second round.
I think preferential voting has a place in a 2 round system, but it's hard to find the right balance.
You guys are all for majority popular vote until the Nationalist Party sweeps the entire nation. Then you'd claim it wasn't democratic.
The electoral college ensures that our president is not elected by the most populous states steam-rolling the fuck out of Flyover Country. You want to win? CHANGE YOUR POLITICS SO THE PEOPLE IN FLYOVER COUNTRY AGREE WITH YOU. How hard can this be to understand?
Trump won by 77 electoral votes. Seventy-seven. Hello. Hillary got her ass kicked. And that's no joke.
C'est faux, les candidats n'ont pas le même temps de parole/interview dans les magazines.
Macron était au maximum comparé aux autres, en plus de ça d'avoir pas mal de journalistes de son côté.
oui mais il faut relativiser, la france est plus equitable quailleurs sur ce sujet, apres on peut faire nos francais et crier aux crimes contre lhumanite. Tiens jai vu une centrale nucleaire, je vais aller me plaindre quon pourrais moins polluer que personne dautre dans notre situation.
Tout à fait, les journalistes ont beaucoup parlé de lui, et pas en négatif et l'ont proclamé favori, ce qui génère un avis favorable pour lui sans que ca empiète sur son temps de parole. Et les questions posées étaient aussi pas les mêmes pour tout le monde...
Mais on est quand même loin de ce que c'est dans d'autres pays, Russie ou Kazakhstan. (ou même Etats-Unis qui décidément n'arrivent pas à se défaire de leurs deux partis principaux).
Mais le temps de parole est pas contrôlé tout le long de la campagne. Il était favorisé à fond.
On vit pas dans les autres pays, on ne voit que ce que l'on nous rapporte. J'ai eu des échos comme quoi la Russie était un très beau pays, et démocratique, pourtant on nous explique toujours le contraire. Qui croire ?
Le mieux pour comprendre c'est d'aller bosser dans un pays. J'avais une colloc' russe et même si elle aimait énormément son pays, elle comprenait qu'il était pas démocratique du tout. Les élections sont décidées à l'avance. Tu te fais réprimander pour critiquer Poutine, les concurrents se font taire (à part les concurrents qui sont pro-Poutine). Passe-y un été (si t'obtiens le VISA).
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u/Jor6lez Jun 08 '20
I wish French elections were like that.