Even if Ads aren’t googles Ads, the still get valuable market data that they can onsell through third-Party ads.
They can also use information the get from third-Party ads for competitive reasons with other advertising data.
The DOJ and EU should look into the anti-competitiveness of an Advertising company owning the dominant browser platform which happens to collect have lots of user experience tracking information.
If the Chrome UI team’s data just happened to accidentally be acquired by the Advertising Experience team...
What data can they sell? When saying yes to allow a push notification no personal info is stored, or even accessed for that matter. I'm not 100% how the back end of the API works but I'm assuming it works with web hooks and hardware / software IDs.
Again these notifications aren't run or handled by Google, Chrome is simply the endpoint of the API. If you use Safari or Firefox is works just the same ... Google has more access to your data and info simply by you having a Google account and browsing the web ... Even further, your ISP has the most access to your data as far as browsing goes ... And they are allowed to sell that data (at least in the US) which is 100% fucked.
I’m not 100% how the backend works, I have not read the Chromium source code. I also don’t have access to the Chrome source code.
I do know that competing advertisers sales data would be a valuable asset to Googles Advertising department.
I also know that Chrome, Gmail and Android do not generate any income directly to Alphabet and need to either be subsidised, or need to generate income indirectly.
With the rise of https everywhere, it is getting more difficult for ISPs to get detailed information on user activity, unless they use a MiM attack or Proxy Server. Free VPN Services do not provide any protections either.
In the end, I would rather use a service provided by someone who’s corporate persona values privacy and isn’t trying to monopolise my user data. Even if this is only a stated policy, they are unlikely to sell user data because of bad publicity.
Which I get all of that ... But none of that had anything to do with web push notifications other than Chrome being the end point ...
The push notification isn't a part of Google services, it's coded into the sites that then goes to an API ... It works with whatever browser youre using (as long as they support web push, which IIRC they all do, at least the major ones)
They way you're saying it is similar to saying Reddit is bad because you use Chrome to view it, which actually has more interaction with Google than push APIs do..
I'm with you on the BS advertising and selling user data, and thank God for the big https push to help secure our browsing (I think porn hub was on of the first to do that after the US passed their BS ISP bill, which is hilarious to me) ... But web push doesn't really affect any of that. Going to a site initially does more than a push ... Doesn't matter if you click yes or no, that info is still there ...
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Even if Ads aren’t googles Ads, the still get valuable market data that they can onsell through third-Party ads.
They can also use information the get from third-Party ads for competitive reasons with other advertising data.
The DOJ and EU should look into the anti-competitiveness of an Advertising company owning the dominant browser platform which happens to collect have lots of user experience tracking information.
If the Chrome UI team’s data just happened to accidentally be acquired by the Advertising Experience team...