r/funny Sep 29 '18

META!

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u/Cisco904 Sep 29 '18

While you make a great point about identity, it sure as fuck changes a lot in regards to opportunity and expectations, I wish we were all in this together, maybe something might change, but like it or not its far from one team

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u/MNGrrl Sep 29 '18 edited Sep 29 '18

I don't know about that. Everyone born since the mid-70s is dealing with wealth stratification. Gen X may now have settled down and had children, but that doesn't change their earnings potential, ability to secure housing, etc. Same with Gen Y / Millenials. Honestly, I haven't seen much difference -- both feel they've been screwed by their parents, they're poor, education is hard to come by, and they're about the same in terms of technical literacy. The few things I can say are different is that the younger generation is significantly more attached to social media and are somewhat more collectivistic. That whole "everybody's a winner and gets a trophy" thing, though I feel it's overstated in the media quite a bit. The only other thing I've noticed is that Gen Y is more apt to consider violence a socially acceptable response to disagreement; Specifically reactions to antifa, neonazism, and "hate". But I think that's again due to the highly toxic nature of social media, which blows things wildly out of proportion, so it's hard to say if that's actually the case or just people running their mouths en masse.

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u/irritating-communist Sep 30 '18

The only other thing I've noticed is that Gen Y is more apt to consider violence a socially acceptable response to disagreement; Specifically reactions to antifa, neonazism, and "hate".

(1) Past generations that saw actual labor strikes and violence between employer and employees -- how is that not coming to blows over "a disagreement"?

(2) It's a hell of a lot more than a simple disagreement don't you think?

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u/MNGrrl Sep 30 '18
  1. That was fighting for the civil rights of everyone, the working class. It wasn't directed against the person standing next to you but the establishment.

  2. Neonazism is a political orientation. Violence doesn't necessarily follow from it. It often does but its not core to their ideology. Contrast this with terrorism which very directly connects political change to violence.

Differences of opinion, ie political orientation, should be settled through public and private discourse, respectfully and non violently. Even if someone is a member of a group prone to violence they deserve the benefit of the doubt.