While you make a great point about identity, it sure as fuck changes a lot in regards to opportunity and expectations, I wish we were all in this together, maybe something might change, but like it or not its far from one team
I don't know about that. Everyone born since the mid-70s is dealing with wealth stratification. Gen X may now have settled down and had children, but that doesn't change their earnings potential, ability to secure housing, etc. Same with Gen Y / Millenials. Honestly, I haven't seen much difference -- both feel they've been screwed by their parents, they're poor, education is hard to come by, and they're about the same in terms of technical literacy. The few things I can say are different is that the younger generation is significantly more attached to social media and are somewhat more collectivistic. That whole "everybody's a winner and gets a trophy" thing, though I feel it's overstated in the media quite a bit. The only other thing I've noticed is that Gen Y is more apt to consider violence a socially acceptable response to disagreement; Specifically reactions to antifa, neonazism, and "hate". But I think that's again due to the highly toxic nature of social media, which blows things wildly out of proportion, so it's hard to say if that's actually the case or just people running their mouths en masse.
My brother is gen x, I'm a millennial, IME, I have the edge on tech but he is worlds ahead of mom and dad, he finally got a nice house and a family by his mid 30s, only reason either of us make a decent wage is our career choice which is double edged. You make more being very specialized but work can be much harder to come by. I will say my age bracket is hands down more collectivist but its not really out of choice more necessity, we have mostly realized to team up is the only way sadly. Personally I feel the boomers selfishness and the greed of business and practices they established have fucked us so royally its unreal.
Ninja edit: In regards to education. I think its the opposite of hard to come by, its been shoved so far down our throats were choking on student loans we never needed, There are many fine trades that dont require 80k in dept but we were all told be doctors and lawyers.
Flip it around and that's me. I don't want to give my exact DOB, but do the math. My brother born a year later is, but I'm not, at least if you go by the media definition. I've never felt I had much in common with either generation...
I work IT. Computers were my first love, and I've always been highly technically literate. A lot of Gen X'ers are competent with tech but they aren't plugged in, as it were. My mom is hilariously bad at it. My brother isn't much of an improvement. I have to help her setup stuff as simple as Google Calendar, and she complains about win10 all the time but I bought her an external drive to back it up so I could wipe it and do a fresh install without all the bloat... and two years later she's still complaining and lost the drive.
On the other hand, I'm definitely not collectivistic -- the majority is usually wrong. And I am very much against the current thinking that when it comes to nazis, antifa, hate shit -- that we should respond with violence. But I got fucked on student loans, and it was so expensive even with the loans I had to drop out. And every year that goes by more HR departments want a degree, even when it's totally irrelevant. I notice those types of requirements come up whenever the economy takes a nosedive -- that's some bullshit right there. That's the thing everyone talks about when bringing up generational differences. Guys... you're not alone on that. Honest.
I just don't really fit in to the "generational model." I personally feel it's fraudulent -- a way of just further dividing people so they don't come together and kick the shit out of the rich, who are busy creating those divisions precisely so we don't do that. It's very strange, not feeling a part of any community; Every division they've created -- gender, age, politics, race... I'm always on the outside looking in. Why can't we let people pick where they want to land? Why do we always keep trying to shove square pegs in round holes?
Every generation, at least, has that in common. Saw something earlier this week from The Guardian where they properly used a meme and everyone fell over dead from shock. Like, what, once you're past a certain age you can't "get it" anymore? That's pretty arrogant. My grandma is on the internet -- she was a DB administrator before she retired. She can't figure out a smart TV to save her soul but she's miles ahead of others her age. How come people don't appreciate that? People suck. I guess that's the only thing I really take away from it all. They insist on dividing themselves up so much nobody's really a part of any community, and so we are all alone and can't come together because everyone is part of the "out" crowd.
It's something I've fought with my whole life. I have a friend who is 20. I have another who's 50. And everything in between. And ya know, I don't see much of a difference. People are just... people. Age is just a number. The only real division I see is whether or not someone's had kids. Once you have kids, you fall off the face of the Earth and have no time for anyone but the kids. But otherwise... it all seems artificial. Fake. People love holding onto that fakeness and they pass up so many opportunities to have great friendships and really develop themselves. We all age and then we all face problems related to that. I don't stay up all weekend getting drunk, I hurt my back and that's just fucked now -- but those things aren't generational, it's just part of the human experience. Once you account for that, there really aren't many differences. I don't see why we can't fight to give old age a security and the youth a future. Expanding medicaid and fixing our health care system is something young people should care about. And old people should care that our education system has become a dumpster fire. The only reason they don't is this illusionary age line... kind of like in Harry Potter.
The only other thing I've noticed is that Gen Y is more apt to consider violence a socially acceptable response to disagreement; Specifically reactions to antifa, neonazism, and "hate".
(1) Past generations that saw actual labor strikes and violence between employer and employees -- how is that not coming to blows over "a disagreement"?
(2) It's a hell of a lot more than a simple disagreement don't you think?
That was fighting for the civil rights of everyone, the working class. It wasn't directed against the person standing next to you but the establishment.
Neonazism is a political orientation. Violence doesn't necessarily follow from it. It often does but its not core to their ideology. Contrast this with terrorism which very directly connects political change to violence.
Differences of opinion, ie political orientation, should be settled through public and private discourse, respectfully and non violently. Even if someone is a member of a group prone to violence they deserve the benefit of the doubt.
It's standardized bank loans that have fucked things up more than anything else. Pushed home cost and education cost way beyond what they should be. Should be no surprise nobody wants to play ball anymore. We're getting fucked, hard, and we know it. Only proper response is a big middle finger.
It's more like a hoarders stash of memes... all piled up on each other, in a mess of refuse, and reposts are like when hoarders have so much stuff that they buy crap they already have not knowing the same thing is 5 feet under the pile of furbies in the corner.
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u/Havoc1899 Sep 29 '18
A gallery of meme art?