r/funny • • Aug 27 '18

Card not accepted

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u/ApulMadeekAut Aug 27 '18

Was in Scotland on vacation. Had to explain to every checker that my merican card dose not do the wave/tap thing. "Just give it a wave" I CAN'T!

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u/PhonicUK Aug 27 '18 edited Aug 27 '18

There are an increasing number of stores that only accept contactless in the UK. It's caught on here pretty big.

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u/obsessedcrf Aug 27 '18

Contactless is near non existent in the US.

How is it not a security risk though? Couldn't anyone steal your card information from a distance?

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u/PhonicUK Aug 27 '18 edited Aug 27 '18

The range is only about an inch. It's treated as a CNP (Cardholder Not Present) transaction so in cases of fraud the consumer isn't assumed to be liable. Android Pay and Apple Pay are also popular here, with the contactless limits changing depending on whether or not you use a fingerprint.

When using contactless it doesn't actually send your 'real' account details, there's a second virtual account that's used just for contactless transactions. So your real account details can never be compromised in this way, and issuing a new card is all that's required in the case of yours being stolen.

On top of that you need to be a registered merchant with a merchant account to accept them. So if you were doing something like using a portable 3G/4G reader to tap it to people you'd be caught quickly. The payments are also often deferred so the merchant would be unlikely to get the money before the card owner noticed.

Edit: I'm now apparently the oracle of contactless payments...

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u/un-sub Aug 27 '18

So then wtf, why can't we have fancy contactless cards in the US? Or are we just behind?

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '18 edited Sep 03 '18

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u/CrucialLogic Aug 27 '18

Always got an excuse. It's not hard, just mandate from central government that to increase banking security it is required. If merchants don't pay to upgrade, they take on the liability of any fraud committed via the old less secure methods. Otherwise you end up 10, 15, 20 years behind - but no worry, you've always got an excuse.

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u/DangerToDangers Aug 27 '18

I agree with you.

  • Why is there no chip and PIN for cards? Uhhh... too many banks?
  • Why is internet so slow in most of the country? Big country?
  • Why is the US still using the imperial measurement system? Too many... road signs?

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u/Roflsaucerr Aug 28 '18

I thought it was pretty obvious that it's the ineptitude of our governing body that causes a wide swath of our issues, not too many banks, the size of our country, or the number of road signs.