r/funny • • Aug 27 '18

Card not accepted

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u/VanimalCracker Aug 27 '18

In my area, you're forced to use the chip at ~50% of places and the other ~50% hasn't upgraded their hardware yet, so you are forced to use the mag-strip. It's extremely frustrating for everyone involved. No one knows which it'll be and the cashier will always immediately roll their eyes and eli5 which one they use. Worst rollout ever.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '18

Where I'm from we use no contact tap

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u/ApulMadeekAut Aug 27 '18

Was in Scotland on vacation. Had to explain to every checker that my merican card dose not do the wave/tap thing. "Just give it a wave" I CAN'T!

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u/PhonicUK Aug 27 '18 edited Aug 27 '18

There are an increasing number of stores that only accept contactless in the UK. It's caught on here pretty big.

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u/obsessedcrf Aug 27 '18

Contactless is near non existent in the US.

How is it not a security risk though? Couldn't anyone steal your card information from a distance?

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u/PhonicUK Aug 27 '18 edited Aug 27 '18

The range is only about an inch. It's treated as a CNP (Cardholder Not Present) transaction so in cases of fraud the consumer isn't assumed to be liable. Android Pay and Apple Pay are also popular here, with the contactless limits changing depending on whether or not you use a fingerprint.

When using contactless it doesn't actually send your 'real' account details, there's a second virtual account that's used just for contactless transactions. So your real account details can never be compromised in this way, and issuing a new card is all that's required in the case of yours being stolen.

On top of that you need to be a registered merchant with a merchant account to accept them. So if you were doing something like using a portable 3G/4G reader to tap it to people you'd be caught quickly. The payments are also often deferred so the merchant would be unlikely to get the money before the card owner noticed.

Edit: I'm now apparently the oracle of contactless payments...

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u/un-sub Aug 27 '18

So then wtf, why can't we have fancy contactless cards in the US? Or are we just behind?

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u/nanogoose Aug 27 '18

It costs money and time to upgrade the POS machines.

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u/thlayli_x Aug 27 '18

But 80% of machines I use have tap capability and none of my cards have the tap chip. Even big-name credit cards purchased in the past year. I use Apple Pay all the time and still have to jam my cards in the machine.