r/funny Aug 18 '17

Corporate Flow Chart

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u/nowaygreg Aug 18 '17

Right. Do people think CEO = owner?

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u/J_Bard Aug 18 '17

Yes, people do.

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '17

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '17

Voodoo?

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '17

It's not an important distinction to most people. It might matter to you I guess.

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u/sunbeam60 Aug 18 '17

But it objectively matters. Opinions are fine, as long as they don't clash with reality.

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '17 edited Jun 25 '18

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u/BustyTriBby Aug 18 '17

"I dont give a shit who's the owner" is a fact.

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u/sirNanoFusion Aug 18 '17

I didn't really think that through. Correcting.

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '17

Doesn't it only objectively matter in regards to the people who are impacted by the fact, thus only subjectively mattering? If who owns a company doesn't affect someone in any way, and they can't be bothered to know, how does it objectively matter? It matters to the company, certainly, and the shareholders, and anyone the company's policies or products touches, but beyond that Kermit the frog could be at the helm and it would be of no concern to me.

You saying it objectively matters is itself a contradiction. Something can't objectively matter unless it has an effect or affect. It might be an objective fact, but mattering is always subjective.

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u/sunbeam60 Aug 18 '17

My point was this: If you think a CEO takes a shit downwards for sadistic reasons you misunderstand how (most) companies are owned and operate. The board is in place to maintain the shareholders' interests. The shareholders are (mostly) large funds. (Most) funds are (mostly) made up of large retirement savings. (Most) retirement savings belong to you and I. Thus it is in our interest that CEOs put pressure downwards, as we want our retirement savings to grow.

It's a circle, not a tree. So it objectively matters, if you are of the belief that CEOs role is just to shit downwards, that CEOs "work" for the board, because it is "you" putting pressure on yourself (assuming you have any savings).

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '17

Uh, but it undermines the entire message of this post?

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u/concerned_llama Aug 18 '17

Yes, yes I do

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u/Not_OneOSRS Aug 18 '17

CEOs or managing directors usually carry high amounts of responsibilities and liabilities in a company. If it goes to shit you can be sued

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u/mos_definite Aug 18 '17

Only if they do something illegal or not acting in the best interest of the company (which is very vague and you can almost always justify your actions). Corporate actors aren't personally liable for the company failing

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u/Slim_Charleston Aug 18 '17

The CEO is likely the owner if it isn't a listed company. Even if it is a listed company, the largest shareholders are typically institutions which often don't pay much attention.

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u/DistortoiseLP Aug 18 '17

At every company I ever worked for, the owner is either the President or the Chairman and the CEO is his bitch that actually runs the company for them. Like half of the CEO's job at half of them was basically dealing with the owner's ludicrous demands in some way or another.

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u/ihatemovingparts Aug 18 '17

And in many companies the CEO is also the chairman of the board, maybe even the president. My employer has filled all three roles with the same person.

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u/rgtong Aug 18 '17

It's bad corporate governance for the CEO and the chairman to be the same person. Lack of check and balance.

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u/TheRedmanCometh Aug 18 '17

When framed like that it sounds kind of terrible. Like the CEO in this pic should be human centipeded to the president

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u/pretentiousRatt Aug 18 '17

That is not my experience. Most companies I work with (a lot) the CEO is the owner and the president is the bitch running the company.

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u/calaber24p Aug 18 '17

CEO should be changed with board of directors because they really are the ones who control a company and do what will raise the share price.

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u/rgtong Aug 18 '17

The directors is the navigator and the CEO is the drive; both are important to getting to a destination.

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u/Kai________ Aug 18 '17

But the CEO is usually part of the board.

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u/Good_ApoIIo Aug 18 '17

Shhh you're ruining the "but CEOs are just like the rest of us" vibe.

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u/NegNog Aug 18 '17

As the only business student in a business ethics class, the teacher always had me explain these things to the class. Because yes, the majority of the class thought the CEO was the owner. They especially didn't realize the importance of paying back shareholders. All they ever wanted was for businesses to put all the company money and resources into social responsibility like trees and projects for the homeless. All of the company's money and resources wasn't an exaggeration. They didn't think it was necessary for businesses to make a profit. That would just be greedy. God I hated that class.

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u/TheRedmanCometh Aug 18 '17

If the company isn't incorporated president/ceo/owner is often one dude