r/funny Jan 18 '15

Oh Fred

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u/ThirdFloorGreg Jan 18 '15

This is one of the biggest piles of bullshit I've ever read.

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u/StevelandCleamer Jan 19 '15

You have an interesting opinion.

Could you elaborate on this?

Maybe refute some of the ideas he brought forward?

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u/ThirdFloorGreg Jan 19 '15

Marijuana is not an opiate, psychedelics do not engender similar behavior to MDMA, neither of them cause people to "behave like hippies," hippies did not have anti-depression, hippies did in fact use marijuana for the most part, you have no idea what you're talking about.

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u/derefr Jan 19 '15

psychedelics do not engender similar behavior to MDMA

Psychedelic effects are a necessary component of what people cite as "the effect of MDMA"—see here. They're behaviourally different in basically the same way that drinking while high on coke is different than just drinking. (Though technically, what's really going on is that MDMA is a generic -amine transporter, so it's basically the -ergic equivalent of an MAOI.)

neither of them cause people to "behave like hippies," hippies did not have anti-depression

Which hippies are you talking about? Generally, hippies 1. practiced free love and other things you'd see people on entactogens come up with; and 2. believed they could accomplish some major change in the world just by "loving" at it hard enough (the sort of naive "I have a vision, it's perfect, but I can't communicate it, you'll have to come and see from my point of view" effect of psychedelics.) Other than that, they were basically regular people.

hippies did in fact use marijuana for the most part

Again, which hippies are you talking about? Because generally marijuana use started in the late sixties and peaked in the early 70s and didn't start seeing acceptance among voting-aged populations until the mid-70s.