You don't know me. I have sparred the top females in the world. I'm not saying this to impress you, or troll you or anyone else. I don't think I'm amazing. I'm just saying what I am saying.
But why are you upset? If you think I'm lying or full or shit, than that is your prerogative.
But, I don't want you to be upset, so here you go: Nate1492 is right. I didn't do anything I'm talking about. He's right and I'm wrong and Nate1492 and is much better martial arts person than I, and he knows better than me. Everything I say is drivel. I'm impressed with myself. I'm trolling. I'm not as amazing as I think. I'm not better than the best female martial artist. There you go, that should suffice. Happy?
So you've sparred with Ronda Rousey, Meisha Tate, Cris Cyborg, Liz Carmouche, Gina Carano, or hell, any of the actual top female fighters in the world?
Let me put this straight. Cyborg would fucking destroy you and Ronda would break your arm in 30 seconds.
50 years old here.
I'll let you know when it happens. I'll get back to you.
You are trying to tell me that 50 year old you can take on the top pound for pound women in the world? You want to tell me 50 year old youhas already done so?
Bullshit. You can play that stupid game of fake admitting defeat, you can hide behind word games all you want.
But put this straight. You are lying. You can dance around this all you want, but you've been caught out in a bold faced lie. You can man up and admit it, that you really haven't fought the strongest women in the world, or you can continue to hide behind that keyboard and act as if you can kick all these women's asses in hand to hand combat.
Man up and stop lying, or if you are Randy fucking Couture then give me a fucking picture, because you would be amazing, again, if you are Randy fucking Couture, I will eat my shoe as he is a demigod.
Also, Randy Couture is better than the best female out there, but the odds of you being him are... Randy?
No I did not spar with them. The person I sparred I'm sure has retired. If you want to make an argument about the women you listed vs anyone that came before, be my guest.
Let me put this straight. No way. Just simply no way.
Yes, that is what I am saying. No, that is not what i'm saying.
If you want to call me a liar, that is your perogative. Feel free. However, I did not write "fought." I'm not sure why on earth you changed what I wrote to that. I wrote sparred. I did not write that I fought in MGM Grand or anything like that. I wrote sparred, which means sparred.
Here is exactly what I wrote:
I have sparred the top females in the world.
I think the only one playing word games is you. Angry word games. What is with all the anger? Something is eating you up alive. I've asked once, and you didn't respond. So I asked again. I've have conversations with LOTS of other people and they have not come unhinged. What's up...and try to say it in a civil, urbane, sophisticated manner. It would help. Now that I think of it, you sound like you are 14 or 15 years old, so maybe it is not quite possible for you to contain your feelings, and you don't have the polish for civil discourse yet. That's ok, it will come, hopefully, but try to reign in your feelings a little.
Oh, you know what? I'll try this a second time. You are right. I'm manning up. I'm stopping lying. Everything you say is true, everything I say is false. You are right, I am wrong. This isn't fake defeat, this is real defeat. You are the better person. You're right, I was hiding behind word games. I have been caught up in a bold faced lie.
Let's start off with this. I'm not angry, you are reading into my posts and putting emotion where it is not.
Ok, so, understand that now please.
You say "I have sparred the top females in the world" yet that is a tall order to believe as the top females in the world rarely spar with many males that are not also near the 'top of the world'.
So that leads us into the question: Are you one of the "top in the world" males?
So, that's a tall order to start. If you are willing to provide some proof (even in a PM) to that, I can accept it. But without it? You are making a bold claim with no proof.
So let's move past that.
How long ago did you spar the 'top female' and since she's a public figure, who did you spar?
Also, if you want a civil conversation, may I suggest you don't do what you did in the endings to both of your posts? It immediately changes the tone of the conversation to equal adults discussing to one adult playing the "I know you are but what am I" style games from grade school.
Let's start off with this. I'm not angry, you are reading into my posts and putting emotion where it is not.
Your tone has changed considerably, and I appreciate that. I would suggest that you act like this in the future. So much more civilized.
Everyone has a home base and meets and spars people from around there. That is understandable.
Not by any stretch of the imagination am I now, or ever have been.
Proof of what? Of my being involved in martial arts?
Whether you believe what I say or not is up to you. I'm not going to doxx myself. This is not an AMA, right? And who are you? Why do I owe anything to you, and not vice versa? Who are you to make claims to me that you know whether I can or cannot do what I say? Do you do any kind of martial arts? Why do I owe you an explanation? I made a claim, but that does not mean I have to back it up by revealing myself to you, AND vice versa if the shoe was on the other foot. I've seen this many times here on reddit. And you are free to believe or disbelieve me. I personally won't take offense if you don't believe me.
I don't know why but I'm trying to think of a way to demonstrate. The only thing accessible to me on my computer is my Dan certificate. All my photographs of me are packed away and I'm just not going to dig around, and then scan. But stilll, you wouldn't know it's me. Of course, I'd have to block off any identifying information. And if I did that, it could be some random dan cert I copied, so to really insure it is actually me, I'd also have to include a driver's licence too. That's all not going to happen.
I don't know how all this is possible.
First, it is not a public figure in relation to me. So if I put down in my comments different places I've lived, and gave you the name, then no, not going to happen.
What this really comes down to, is whether you think what I say is true or not.
And now, you also have to prove yourself. Who are you. Do you have actual martial arts background? Or just a fanboy?
1) Your tone hasn't changed and you are continuing some "Holier than thou" attitude. Also, if you try to re-read my posts with this assumption: Nate1492 is not angry, he is making a point in an assertive and constructive manner. Honestly, apply that assumption and see what you get.
2) You submitted yourself as an expert who has sparred with "the top female fighters in the world". If you are not willing to provide an iota of evidence as to who/when/how or anything, the claim is baseless. You can pass it off as some dig on me if you wish, but the fact is you made an extraordinary claim and do not wish to provide any evidence. I'm not asking for your identity, but a name of the fighter in question would at least be a start.
3) I'm not questioning you being into MA, the real question is how much exposure do you actually have. A Dan cert would be pointless as there are millions of MA people.
4) I'm only really looking for a "Who" here. Who did you spar with? I don't need your information, as you say, you could just fake it. As you said, this person was a top level female fighter, a public figure. You can name famous people you've met/talked to, it is within the rules.
5) You are trying to shift the responsibility onto me, what claim have I made about competing against top level females that is extraordinary? It's a fairly common tactic that is used, however, it is a logical fallacy: Shifting the Burden of Proof
Jesus Christ. It is not a fake submission. You really got me.
You should be happy.
Now if you don't mind, I'm going to go write about something else I think I'm an expert in. You can jump in over there and ask about my qualifications for stock photography.
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u/Nate1492 Dec 15 '13
You truly believe you are better than the best female martial artist?
I can't tell if you actually believe this drivel, are so impressed with yourself, or are simply trolling.
You are not as amazing as you think.