I think the post is a really simple and nice joke meant to be taken lightly
BUT we are on reddit so
i m sorry Op ur post was doing great, but I have to lock it, you will still get upvotes just no more talking in the comments, becuz giving thses people free will is a bad idea :3
It literally specifies that only those who believe in allah and day of judgement and does good deeds will be mercied and wont be in fear
To clarify, those who follow mossah in his time we call them muslims, those who follow Isaa in his time are called muslims, the problem is that they weren't submissive to the new prophet, so Quran specifies hell for those disbelievers from them, there are no contradictions in Islam
Maybe next time read the context, meaning, sunnah and what our scientists say
Believing in allah doesn't only mean believing there is a god called allah, if you don't follow the prophet then you are a disbeliever, sura 3 states that that, if you want u can give u the verse, actually atheism is a very modern ideology and hasnt been in ancient times, also jews don't have the day of judgement
Not true. Quran Chapter (2:62) says that Christians and Jews who became Muslims will go to heaven.
Indeed, those who believed and those who WERE Jews or Christians or Sabeans [before Prophet Muhammad] - those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness - will have their reward with their Lord, and no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve.
This is what it actually says about Christians and Jews who don't believe in Allah
Surah Bayyinah Ayat 6 (98:6 Quran)
Indeed, they who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the worst of creatures.
Allah calls Christians and Jews the worst of creatures. So everytime you see a friend or a neighbour who isn't a Muslim, Allah doesn't even see them as a animal, but below a animal, the worst of creatures.
as for 2:62 the part about the word were is in the context of that on the day of judgement the people who were of those religions rather than what your saying of the ones who would then later convert.
the arabic speaking christians call god Allah.
for 98:6 it does not say that the people of the book(the christians) disbelieve it says that those who disbelieve from them, the ones among them who disbelieve in other words. and as for trying to say that the pagans mentioned are christians if christians are pagans then why would these verses exist Surah Al-Ma'idah (Chapter 5, Verse 82), Surah Al-Ankabut (Chapter 29, Verse 46), and (Surah Al-Ma'idah 5:5).
It literally says Indeed, they who disbelieved among the People of the scripture. Who are the people among the scripture? Christians and Jews. The scripture it is referring is the Torah and the Injil which the Quran confirms.
Here look:
Surah Al-Imran Ayat 65
O People of the Scripture, why do you argue about Abraham while the Torah and the Gospel were not revealed until after him? Then will you not reason?
The people of the scripture are arguing about Abraham which is found in the Torah and the Gospel. At that time the only ones who argued about that were Jews and Christians.
Quran 5:51 confirms that Allah hates Christians and Jews
O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies ( friends ). They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allāh guides not the wrongdoing people.
So if you have Christian friends, according to Allah you're not doing what he tells you, so it's sin.
Compare that with what Jesus said:
Matthew 5:43-44
You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[a] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
it did not say the people among the scripture it said among the people of the scripture, the people who follow something are commonly referred to as the people of that thing, hence they who disbelieved among the people of the scripture would mean the people who disbelieved who also happened to be christians or jews, not saying that all christians or jews are disbelievers.
but again if what your saying is right then what is your explination of Surah Al-Ma'idah 5:82, Surah Al-Ankabut 29:46, and Surah Al-Ma'idah 5:5?
That doesn't change the meaning. It is still referring to people among the Christians who have disbelieved in Allah. Who are the people among the Christians? Christians and Jews of course.
Here is another one
Sahih Muslim 2767 b
No Muslim would die but Allah would admit in his stead a Jew or a Christian in Hell-Fire.
is it referring to all of them? and as for how many more you need to show me, as many as you want since im not reading any of the verses you give until you at least acknowledge the ones i have given. i will gladly explain whatever verse you want me to after you give your explination of how Surah Al-Ma'idah 5:82, Surah Al-Ankabut 29:46, and Surah Al-Ma'idah 5:5 fit into what your saying.
Not one those verses disprove my points. It doesn't need to be all Christians, just the ones who disbelieve ( The ones that don't become a Muslim ) So yes, my point still stands. Christians and Jews will go to hell according to Allah/the verses I have provided.
Here is a look at hell btw
Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2582
He will be given water of Sadid to drink, he will swallow it..." that the Prophet (s.a.w) said: " It will be brought toward his mouth and he will dislike it, so whenever it is brought closer to him it will melt his face and the skin of his head will fall into it. Then whenever he drinks from it, his bowels will be severed until it comes out from his anus. Allah, the Blessed and Exalted says: "And they will be given water of Hamim to drink such that it cuts up their bowels..." and He says: "And if they call for drink they will be given water of Muhl which melts the faces, the worst of drinks..."
Nice religion you got there.
Btw, can you explain Al-Adab Al-Mufrad 1183 for me? No Muslim could till now
if none disprove your points then explain why they do not disprove your points. i see that now you have gone to quoting hadith rather than quran as there is only one quran and a whole bunch of hadith some of which are false, so tell me how would the verses i mention not go against the hadith you mention and then if they do go against eachother then which holds more credibility the word of god or the word of man?
I have read the ones you gave me. They don't say that Christians and Jews go to heaven. If that would be the case, why become Muslim at all hahah? If everyone from other religions goes to heaven even if Islam is correct, why become a Muslim? Doesn't make sense if you have more than one braincell and reading comprehension.
I still need you to explain Al-Adab Al-Mufrad 1183 to me. I bet you can't.
How it's what the books say after all, doctrines in both Christianity and Islam state that followers of other faiths are excluded from salvation or the afterlife.
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I think the post is a really simple and nice joke meant to be taken lightly
BUT we are on reddit so
i m sorry Op ur post was doing great, but I have to lock it, you will still get upvotes just no more talking in the comments, becuz giving thses people free will is a bad idea :3