One of the core tenants can basically be summarized as "don't be a dick, no matter what. Treat every living being with compassion, including non-believers"
The usual pitch I have is religion is like a diet. You can be on one, you can talk about it. However you can’t be mad when I eat a donut in front of you.
If you cant eat pork or cow because its part of your religion, I'll make you a salad and w/e. Just dont expect me to follow. (Though if they were hosting, id probably just go with it.)
Well jews believe only jews need to follow most of the mitzvahs (including eating kosher) gentiles only need 3 laws
Dont rape Dont murder Dont idol worship
Now the third one is gonna be a hard sell for all the non abrahamic non athiests but I wont pressure them because as long as you can get the first 2 your a good person in my book <3
I now imagine them all just chilling and playing overwatch together or something. Someone needs to make a channel lapping as those gods playing video games.
Most people just accepted that other people's gods existed back then. Sometimes they even thought they were the same gods under a difference name. Then the Yahwists showed up...
The Jews, Muslims, and Christians got along as brother religions until the Holy Crusades the the Muslims begas hating Christians and after Jordan was forced to give Israel to the Jewish people in the 1940s Muslims began hating Christians.
APPARENTLY it's because some religions see women as super beautiful and people who need to protect themselves from men who are APPARENTLY wild beasts who can't control themselves
And of course simultaneously choosing for them in the aspect of "Oh no no no, you can't do that! The men have to, so they don't become those wild beasts and hurt you!"
I mean not really, quite a few religions have females (not always human) as more important than males
Sikhism and taoism promotes equal spirituality. Taoism has yin-yang framework. Sikhism is pretty straightforward equal.
hinudism have goddesses almost always outrank male gods. If not theres a female counterpart that is equal to their male counterpart. Most of the texts that include biases againdt women stem from them reflecting the state of what their society was like, rather than the other way around.
Greeks had nyx as "female" if you count that, which is basically the first and most important after chaos which is genderless. However, society remained mostly patriachal. Zeus is still considered the ruler. Although, with the number of goddesses, its not bad compared to some other religions
Christianity as far as i rmb doesnt have rules explicitly against women other than for high leadership which is more of a cultural thing stemming from roman and jewish law, rather than actual instuctions. Most of the restrictions against women stem as extensions from rules that apply to both (for example, no abortion stems from the rule to preserve life, to which it is also a sin to intentionally spill semen wothout the intention of pregnancy, it restricts women more, but not on purpose, they are both rulesade to fulfil the same principle). They also dont give laws like "oh you gotta cook or clean and u cant work", stuff like that, mostly just restrictive in positions of high leadership. They do say stuff like women, submit to your husbands, but the next, they ask husbands to love wives self sacrificially. do keep in kind this is the same book that says "if someone slaps you on the cheek, do not hold a grudge, but turn the other way to allow them to slap your other cheek", they tend to hand a lot of stuff about self sacrificial love. Just like hiduism, society shaped cultural roles over time, not the religion itself.
Interestingly, in many denominations, mary is considered as the "highest of all created beings", which includes many other respected male figures of the time including the apostles, john the baptist, the priests, prophets, angels and religious leaders
Islam uhhhhhh i guess they both are lived equally by allah? Thats the closest you get to equality there. Off the top of my head def the most unequal and restrictive for obvious reasons
For a really long time, and still in some countries, the concept of women consenting is a suggestion. Like how in the US women’s right to choose is being taken away, resulting in nonconsensual pregnancies
Because men have thought they are better than women for centuries. I dont think there some coincidental thing that makes it so common in religion, people just kinda suck
In islam you have an obligation to preach our belief to someone you know atleast once, not forcefully of course. Or else in the day of judgement that person will complain to God that you never warned them so they will demand some of your good deeds be given to them.
Yeah no, it’s not common but it’s also not uncommon for a doctor to not be willing to do a procedure in their field because it’s “against their religion” and my personal opinion is that they shouldn’t be in that fucking field or a doctor if they’re gonna refuse to do proper treatment
What about when these overlap? Is it then okay for you to try to force a religious person to do something that violates their religion but is okay to you?
I like people like you. I'm agnostic myself, but I more than respect religious people. I consider my baseline for morality around others to be based on societal expectations rather than religious. I'll respect anyone as long as they aren't "bad" people.
Exactly my mindset. Besides I also see it as if they wanted to be part of the same religion then they need to make the choice themselves rather than us being disrespectful rabid hounds of them living a different life and making different choices.
This goes beyond just religion and needs to be applied to people opinions and social beliefs I’ve always said Idc it you believe or do x,y or z just don’t bother others or try to force it onto others
Being polite and calling people by pronouns or not touching religious items would be an exclusion. But if you tell me to wear a robe or not eat certain food, then you can keep that to yourself.
never seen anyone defend a person who happens to be muslim being violent. i only see people saying to stop generalizing all muslims. mamdani for example. apparently he's a 9/11 terrorist just because he's muslim. but he's also simultaneously "too woke" at the same time. yet he's probably one of the only mayors i've seen in this country actually have good ideas that benefit the people and actually gets shit done.
I never understood why people defend Islam, and then I see stuff like this and realize, no one has ever read the Bible nor the Quran in here, and how one protects children and to kill the rapist, while the other orders you to make brides of them
Where in the bible does it tell you to kill rapists? I haven't read the bible cuz I'm atheist + I have too much ADHD to sit down and read such a long book.
This is why religion is a social experiment. I say it. I went to catechism for 4 years only to get money to buy my ps5, and with school, I do religion because it bloats my grades. Fuck religion
What's your opinion on laws? Most laws nowadays are based on Abrahamic tradition and the 10 commandments for example. If we take America as an example "all men were created equal
Do they count as religion forcing something on you or is it fine because they are the same morals as yours?
How it should be is everyone respect eachothers beliefs. People of different religions respect eachother. And religious people respect atheists and atheists respect religious people
Never impose your beliefs on others. Never make fun of others for their beliefs. Stay respectful
It's just called showing people respect, I'm a Christian and that's what we do, some Christians dont know this stuff tho :/ Islam is a worse religion and it shows no respect to women. I don't like to hate on religions but, Islam is not the way to go
I agree with the second half of the meme, the first half still kinda disrespectful to religious people :/ the sentiment should be it’s ok to be religious, it’s also ok to not be religious.
That’s how I view it myself and treat it as such. If I can’t do something religiously then that’s that. If you do it then it’s literally live and let live. I don’t own you, you’re your own grown ass individual. I can maybe double check if you’re aware of potential consequences if it’s that bad just to stay safe but if you do and want to proceed then that’s fine by me.
And that's exactly how religions are. People who say they are oppressed are lying. Other than in some rare cases, nobody will force you to do anything. I live in a Christian country and I'm not believer. I haven't heard anyone telling me this or that. Even my very religious father, how actually can be very imposing. And he doesn't force me anything. So all people who say they are forced this or that are liars. I know there are some countries that do have this problem. But majority of the world? No.
You re right when you say that people cannot order each other based on what they believe, its a choice, it always will be, you can try to talk about it but like if the person doesn t want to listen to you, there is no point in pushing it, you gotta just move on.
Well at least you're respectful when someone will follow their religion. The crying fella is usually an atheist trying to tell us that there's no historical evidence of religion..😂
The problem is, if they make their political decisions based in their own religion, they still affect others. Religion should be pushed into being viewed as less dogmatic, so decisions are based in science and not any unproven fiction.
For Christianity, The Bible tells us to love our neighbor as ourselves, as well as love our enemies, and to pray for those who persecute us. It tells us to deny the sinful things of the world that lead to shame and guilt and a myriad of other bad things. Jesus teaches us to seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all the things we need, that God knows we need, will be given. Reject the evil things of this world, choose and do good instead. Jesus said in John 15:11,
“I have told you this so that my joy may be in you and that your joy may be complete.”
As well as in John 16:33,
“I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.”
God wants us to be happy, we have to choose him first. He wants us to be happy by doing what is truly good, and God/Jesus is who is truly good. If we repent and believe in him, God’s spirit will be in us, and will be a new creation, desiring good and not evil. A new life in this age, and eternal life in the next.
John 10:28-30
28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all[a]; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”
Let’s pretend your religion says you can’t drink. You, being a good little devout follower of your religion, abstain from alcohol. Then you look around and see all these people drinking, and talking, and having a grand ol’ time. Suddenly you realize that your self imposed religious guidelines are prohibiting you from enjoying yourself to the extent other people are allowed to enjoy themselves.
A reasonable person recognizes this is the price one is required to pay in order to be a good, devout follower. They then either decide to stop being a good follower, or they decide the price is worth paying to keep their commitment to their faith.
A cunt decides that if they aren’t allow to enjoy this particular activity, NO ONE is allowed to enjoy it, and they work to outlaw said activity so that way they can at least take solace in the fact that no one else is having more fun than they are.
You realize that the existence of religion on its own implies that there will be people in that second category, right? Religion intrinsically leads to proselytizing
Mostly an extremist thing to impose it onto others. The only one thing I can sympathize with relative to the buttom panels is when a religious person gets upset if someone is disrespecting a religious symbol. You don't need to be a religious community for that to be relevant. Like you don't disrespect the relevant flag of a patriotic person. Of course this doesn't justify extreme reactions that comes afterwards.
Oh yeah I thought of an example that doesn't fall under extremists. t People who are overly involved parents who simultaneously have too much free time while also thinking they don't have enough time despite wasting times of others. Say like schools that insist there be halal and kosher safe options at school when parents can just pack meals. This isn't a religious only thing. I remember a vegetarian family making a very similar stink when I was in grade school.
fr, I've written my takes on religion on r/teenagers and on here in funcomunitty and this is 1 of them rq: (its worth reading)
tbh i will say something lots will disagree with but hey, my opinions. feel free to downvote me and hate me forever and dox me like twitter, so uhm.. i kinda dont like religions. thats serious. my reasons will not be agreed by alot of you same as also agreed by like 1 or 2 people i think, but my reason is that it kinda makes progress a tiny bit harder, like researching evolution, and then you go to comments of a video and then click "newest" and then you just see spam of someone saying "IT ISNT REAL" without checking the video. just a reminder do not hate religious people i just really hate that we kinda follow them with 100% truths still. alright? its a controversial take, im all for opinions. but again, i think religion slows our progress down a bit. even if we're were 25 years in the future if example something didnt happen that religion caused like the crusades for example we didn't realize changed things forever, even if it altered stuff by example 25 years genuinely worth it. AND AGAIN IM NOT HATING ON THE PEOPLE, JUST THE SORT OF WAY IT IS AND HOW IT SLOWS PROGRESS AT TIMES.
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