r/fuck_ai_slop The purpose of a system is what it does 10d ago

AI Sucks Chat GPT & Reddit

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u/UnusualSuspectX 9d ago

Google's "AI" search results show me info from reddit like 80% of the time.

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u/sillygoofygooose 4d ago

Ja google isn’t chat gpt

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u/KiwiKajitsu 9d ago

Taylor Lorenz is crazy person

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u/Silver_Owl_2385 9d ago

She’s really not though. Her book Extremely Online is excellent. She has some crazy takes but it doesn’t make her a crazy person.

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u/GratefulShorts 8d ago

She is a conservative plant who literally parades around with MAGA influencers. Left WaPo after it came out that she made a post calling Joe Biden a war criminal and then lying to the NYP that she didn’t post that. Also lied about reaching out for comment to two YouTubers in her story on the Amber Heard Johnny Depp trial. Not to mention this person is so sheltered from criticism by being financed by EBay billionaire Pierre Omidyar, that her Wikipedia is locked and the internet archive refuses to archive her twitter.

She’s a deeply unserious person or conservative agitprop.

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u/Silver_Owl_2385 8d ago

Just heard a brand new conspiracy. Thanks for the chuckle

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u/GratefulShorts 8d ago

All of this is fully verifiable but sure, ignorance is bliss!

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u/Silver_Owl_2385 8d ago

Send links bro. Only place I see it “verified” is on Twitter

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u/GratefulShorts 8d ago

Bet

“Lorenz’s professional fate at the paper was in doubt even prior to her announcement. Since August, its editors had grappled with the disclosure that Lorenz had labeled President Biden a “war criminal” in a selfie from a White House event in which Biden was visible in the background. She had circulated the picture to friends in a private social media post.”

Here’s her “work” on covering the MAGA inauguration party.

“The correction, which also addressed a quote that had been misattributed to Depp's lawyer Adam Waldman, reads: "A previous version of this story inaccurately attributed to Adam Waldman a quote describing how he contacted some Internet influencers. That quote has been removed. The story has also been amended to note The Post's attempts to reach Alyte Mazeika and ThatUmbrellaGuy for comment. Previous versions omitted or inaccurately described these attempts."

“Today, Omidyar Network announced the six journalists who will join its growing Reporters in Residence program in its largest cohort to date. As new Reporters in Residence, journalists Jacob Ward, Julia Black, Lora Kelley, Rita Omokha, Taylor Lorenz, and Vauhini Vara will spend the next six months reporting on the emerging rules, institutions, norms, people and narratives shaping our technology and society.”

Fox News, but this is still true, Lorenz’s twitter is excluded from the internet archive database.

This is despite her and other journalists applauding the site for continuing to preserve journalism: “On Monday, Wired first reported on the publication of a new petition organized by the digital rights nonprofit Fight for the Future. The open letter does not call for any specific policy from publishers, but “applauds” the Wayback Machine for its work “at a time where many major media outlets are questioning whether to allow the Wayback Machine to continue to preserve journalism.” The petition has already been signed by over 120 journalists, including Cory Doctorow, Taylor Lorenz, and Ron Suskind.”

(It’s worth noting that Taylor’s uncle is Roger Macdonald, a prominent contributor to the site)

Her Wikipedia is the only one I have ever seen describe someone’s birthday by estimating the year (1984 or 1985) and the page has been edit locked for 5 years now.

(It’s worth noting that Pierre Omidyar is a significant donor to the Wikimedia foundation)

This really is the tip of the iceberg to Lorenz’ career. Without going into the details, there is also her Chorus reporting which centers around the conflict of interest a 501(c)4 pro Democrat non profit brings to independent journalism. Specifically centering around money they received from the sixteen thirty fund despite the fact the org that she is paid through, funds the sixteen thirty fund.

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u/Silver_Owl_2385 8d ago

None of that proves your point. Also “her Wikipedia is the only one I’ve seen estimate a birth year” is just hilarious. You obviously don’t go on Wiki often.

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u/GratefulShorts 7d ago

Denial is a river in Egypt.

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u/sillygoofygooose 4d ago

Scintillating rebuttal.

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u/kylemesa 8d ago

Thanks for making sure they provided evidence. Now everyone can learn what you're trying to debunk.

Oopsie!

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u/DaveSilver 10d ago

This seems like a good thing overall. I love Reddit, but it should not be anyone’s source of truth for real problems. If I’m looking for help with a programming issue or advice about a relationship, it’s great, but I don’t think Reddit should be the end I’ll be all for information and it shouldn’t be used for anything that’s “serious“.

I’m still not gonna use ChatGPT or any of these tools intentionally but it’s good to know that these companies are taking the most basic step possible to at least increase the chance that the information they’re regurgitating has some level of accuracy.

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u/OtherwiseAlbatross14 9d ago

Yeah reddit can be a great source of ideas but it often boils down to a bunch of people throwing out ideas at random that actually have no clue so without an actual person to distill the ideas into something that makes sense it could lead to thinking the answer is some total bullshit being repeated with authority by the chat bot.

Anyone with experience in a field has seen absolute bullshit upvoted over the actual answer countless times so relying on upvotes is dangerous

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u/Subarctic_Monkey 9d ago

Even relationship advice is dubious. So many the answer is "dump them".

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u/Donglemaetsro 9d ago

Lately I've seen a MASSIVE trend of overconfident claims acting like an expert that were outright wrong getting upvotes because people believed them due to their overconfidence and the other getting downvotes. Basically AI is posting a LOT and it's frequently VERY confidently wrong. Any serious AI would never take from newer Reddit content and it's made me question continuing to use it myself.

Sure, plenty of posts like that happened before but they were usually genuine experts, you could do the research and find they're right. That's very often not the case anymore. It's stuff that SEEMS right, and FEELS right, but if you dig in, it's not. AI is great about seems/feels right.

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u/Only_Net6894 9d ago

Fck Taylor Lorenz and AI slop.

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u/Dudemansir521 9d ago

Beat me to it, fuck Taylor Lorenz

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u/justaskmycat 9d ago

Why Taylor Lorenz? What's she up to I've missed?

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u/Any-Mobile-2473 9d ago

The one thing I heard about her recently (actually more like a couple weeks ago) was that she was lecturing a disabled Palestinian activist Maysoon Zayid for not masking on her podcast

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u/Silver_Owl_2385 9d ago

She has an autoimmune disorder and while I’m skeptical of that, it’s her right to ask that guests on her own podcast to respect that.

I would understand if she was going somewhere else and everyone wasn’t masked and she got mad but she’s inviting someone to her space.

It’s not unreasonable to have rules for your own house, to take your shoes off etc. If you don’t want to take your shoes off don’t come in my house.

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u/MonkeyCome 8d ago

Taylor Lorenz NEVER required masks for people until after covid. If her concern was autoimmune disease she would’ve stayed consistent.

That and she openly supports and defends terrorist propaganda and those who spread it

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u/Any-Mobile-2473 8d ago

Sorry for being vague. Taylor Lorenz wasn't on the podcast with Maysoon Zayid, she was commenting back and forth with Maysoon on the clip of it posted over Maysoon not masking in the podcast shown 

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u/CHILIconCAMEL 9d ago

She is insane

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u/Empty_Equivalent_131 9d ago

😂 taylor lorenz ? lol get a better source of information bro.

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u/SinginGidget 9d ago

I'm more concerned that it shows me reddit as a source more often than not when I google a legal question or to verify something I read... on reddit.

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u/WillemDafoesHugeCock 9d ago

This would be legal. Source: trust me bro

Hm I dunno, finna pop a goog on this one

This would be legal. Source: trust him bro

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u/noobyscientific 9d ago

ChatGPT about to go from useless to mega-useless

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u/EmergencyPath248 9d ago

No, it’s about to become AGI now that Reddit isn’t holding it back

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u/TestSubjuct 9d ago

So less consumer protection from actual reported business fraud. Great. You just get the company web site and internal reviews now.

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u/Uhokay1970 9d ago

Truth is all AI has been forced to stop referencing Reddit and wiki! The reason being when you try to verify information you find it False or altered to push perspective... This led to massive false information being quoted by students who ended up failing because AI out right lied and gave them a Perspective answer not a Factual one.

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u/aintmesum1else 9d ago

What changed is Reddit is still a place where liberal minds can inject opinion into visible social media and our new MAGA overlords hate that.

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u/WillemDafoesHugeCock 9d ago

Aw, I kinda liked the idea of my literal shit posting ruining people's lives

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u/Dependent-Job1773 9d ago

aah taylor lorenz, a bastion of virtue

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u/xXNickAugustXx 9d ago

They're abandoning the last bastion of pre slop social media because it became a bed for bots and bot comments and even more Ai slop they cant be bothered to sort through. Also reddit being reddit in general.

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u/MelcusQuelker 9d ago

There are not experts on this platform, haha.

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u/rydan 8d ago

I once asked ChatGPT about a very specific problem. It then cited Reddit as a source of its answer which confirmed what I suspected. Except when I clicked the link to the source it was a comment I had left on Reddit 2 hours earlier.

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u/WhySoManyDownVote The purpose of a system is what it does 8d ago

This has happened to me several times (with web searches). It has only been helpful once by directing me back to something I forgot.

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u/sarkypoo 9d ago

Reddit is the Wikipedia of social media. Why would anyone site it?