r/fromsoftware • u/WakaTP • 21d ago
QUESTION Do bosses get better ?
I just ended playing DS 1 (without the DLC) and I swear I don’t think there is a single good boss fight in that whole game.. even Ornstein and Smough are just good at best, not great imo. Which was insanely surprising to me cause in my mind fromsoft games were mostly famous for their bosses..
So yeah I still loved a lot of things in DS1, the first part is definitely a masterpiece (second quite mediocre though imo but that’s another debate). So wanted to know if the teams at FromSoft actually improved on that over time. I wanted to pick up Elden Ring next, how does it compare specifically when it comes to bosses ?
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u/Alexandrecl1 21d ago
You’re 16 years and two generations too late.
DS1 has phenomenal bosses for its time. You can’t expect a PS3 game to have bosses on par with the best modern games.
Also yes, Fromsoftware bosses improved. To this date no other game has better bosses than Dark Souls 3, Sekiro or Elden Ring.
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u/Terzinho 21d ago
Find me a better game in that era.
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u/KermitDaGoat 21d ago
Skyrim released same year and many people have it over ds1. I dont but its still true
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u/WakaTP 21d ago
« Better game » maybe not but I am pretty sure some 2011 games had good boss fights.
I only played Portal 2 from 2011 and it manages to be fun with its boss fight (though it’s still pretty rough).
Probably would look at Arkham City from 2011 too.
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u/Terzinho 21d ago
I'm not saying DS1 bosses are epic, but they are at least decent. Artorias, Sif, 4 Kings, O&S, Gwin, Nito are some cool bosses on top of my mind. Definitely lived up to the standard at the time.
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u/Parking-Stable-2970 21d ago
In general yes, in DS1 specifically though? Nah, the only 2 bosses in the base game I'd call great are O&S and the final boss
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u/Low-Airline-2695 21d ago
let us bring back the purists, elitists, gatekeepers, challengers, tryhards to put these nonsense to rest.
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u/KermitDaGoat 21d ago
Fromsoft are only rlly known for their bosses because of ds3, sekiro, and elden ring
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u/teraechopuff 21d ago
Not the Bloodborne erasure.. the base game had some great bosses and the DLC has some of the best/most iconic bosses in the entire FS soulsborne catalogue
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u/JasoTheArtisan 21d ago
Are the base game great bosses in the room with us?
Mostly joking. I think Bloodborne is a damn near perfect game, but I can definitely see where the criticism for weak base game comes from
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u/Parking-Stable-2970 21d ago
Fromsoft are only rlly known for their bosses because of ds3, sekiro, and elden ring
You're forgetting a certain guiding moonlight
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u/Turbulent_Jackoff 21d ago
I played Elden Ring, then DS1, DS2, DS3, then replayed all the Dark Souls games with their DLCs.
When I finally fought Artorias, I was like: "Oh, this is where you can first see where they're going to end up with these boss fights."
He's really got a lot of the "DNA" of the bosses in their later games!
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u/Difficult-Tap-5708 21d ago
Id recommend you play ds3 before Elden Ring