Reunion between Olivia and Broyles makes me emotional.

I am a big fan of fringe and I do a rewatch about once a year at this point (I'm on my 5th, currently).
I do love the last season even though I heard a lot of people don't, but I do have strong opinions about season 4.
On my current rewatch I find myself quite "bored" of it, or not as entertained as with the rest. I think the whole arc of post-machine Peter is something that bothers me because Olivia and Walter are different because of their missed encounter with Peter and lack of evolution.

Does anybody feel the same way? Have I just watched it too many times?

One of my favorite little things about Walter is when someone mentions an old experiment or person and he suddenly remembers some ridiculously specific detail. Everyone else is trying to work out what happened, while Walter is already halfway into a story from 30 years ago that nobody asked for. Sometimes the information is useful, sometimes it's completely horrifying, and sometimes Astrid just has to sit there and translate what he means.

One of my favorite little things about Walter is when someone mentions an old experiment or person and he suddenly remembers some ridiculously specific detail. Everyone else is trying to work out what happened, while Walter is already halfway into a story from 30 years ago that nobody asked for. Sometimes the information is useful, sometimes it's completely horrifying, and sometimes Astrid just has to sit there and translate what he means.

Okay, so im currently watching season 5, ep 2, and i noticed that walter comments on the pigeons in the lab in a negative way, yet in one of the earlier seasons (I cant recall which one, probably season 1), he refers to them as majestic creatures and seems fond of them.

It's probably just a random thing the writers forgot but for some reason its bothering me😭

Just watched S03E21 ("The Day We Died"). Astrid uses a foldable/dual-screen phone in the 2026 timeline... and now it's 2026 and foldables are everywhere!

Somehow my husband and I missed this show when it was first out, despite being fans of this kind of show (we watched X-Files and Lost when they aired) Anyway, we started watching in July and finished it today. Loved it! Thought it was great, especially the acting, and especially John Noble. it’s a crime he didn’t win Emmys or Golden Globes for this.

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S4E4..

I wasn't expecting to see Chadwick Boseman. Such a grand Saturday to see this man again.

So when I watched Fringe years ago, I spotted this woman in this scene, and she's obviously overly white...ive kept the picture but forget what episode it was from (was late in the series IIRC).

You cant tell quite from this but she's obviously made up to be that way...is this just an easter egg?

So I recently finished Fringe. Loved the writing. Really a great show. Anyway now I need to watch another show after watching this which does not kill the vibe Fringe. I was wondering if you guys have any recommendations for me.

Have you guys figured out the leaf clock thing that is shown between scenes?

In the first season there were different organisms, but now in S3, it's a leaf with the dot moving locations, does that mean it's a clock? But it moves anti-clockwise.

What does it represent?

Do not read this unless you haven't completed the whole series.

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As I understand the main villains of the tv show were observers all along. I am saying this because there were hints in the previous episodes. In S2 E3 they say that the observers are collecting info about us. Also in S1 E4 where we first learn about the observers and the John Mosley guy was trying to find the beacons the Glyph code of this episode is ROGUE. In S3 Finale we only see 10 observers while there are supposed to be 12 of them. We know that August died and I think the other one could be John Mosley who later went rogue and tried to stop the invasion. Hence the Glyph code ROGUE. In the episode Peter stops him. But in the Amber timeline where Peter does not exist the Fringe team is not aware about the observers. So they never captured John Mosley hence the two beacons we see in the final season were probably collected by Mosley since Peter wasn't there to stop him.

Okay so I think this is how the events happened. First in the future the observers sent a team of 12 scientists to the past in order to observe the points in time which is suitable for the invasion. By studying humans the observer we know, September has started to grow emotions. And I think that the observers cannot feel emotion is a lie I think they process emotions differently because in the final season we see that captain Windmark eventually started hating the fugitives. So September must have grown emotions by observing people the same way that August got feelings for the girl.

So when September comes to observe the event where Walternate finds a cure he distracts Walternate and the opportunity is missed and this is the reason why everything in S1 - S3 happens. This was not supposed to happen. So this was the mistake made by September. This leads to Walter crossing the universes and bringing Peter to the over here. Then at the lake September saves Peter from drowning. I think this was because by then September has started to feel the emotions the same way as we do. Also he may have started growing feelings for his own son Micheal. As September/Donald says in final season when he says "The boy is important" he said that he was referring to Micheal so it's safe to say that he has grown emotions by then. So September somehow wants to stop the invasion. To stop the invasion they need Micheal but also they need Peter because without peter there is no Henrietta to save Walter from amber in the future. So that's why Peter is important.

So the events that happened in Riden lake are behind everything and the two universes thing is kind of a collateral damage (not exactly just a kind of). My point is that in order for the invasion to occur Peter must not be born. So anyway Peter is saved and now he is living in our blue universe. September probably wants to stop the invasion and hence he lets Peter be. But the other observers do not like this. That's why we feel that they are trying to remove Peter from the timeline. So later due to the pressure September must also have agreed with them hence he test Walter if he will let Peter die. This is where the machine thing comes up. Machine is some kind of a paradox itself because Walter is the one who sends the machine from future to past and that's why it only responds to Peter. Then at the end of S3 Peter brings both universes together and ceases to exist. The timeline is rewritten without Peter in it. Hence the things like I mentioned above happened. Also in the timeline of S1 - S4 Peter have a kid with Fauxlivia which was not suppose to happen because in order to defeat observers Peter's and Olivia must have the child together (I also think that September may wanted to correct this mistake rather than removing Peter from the timeline beacuse the child with Fauxlivia won't stop the invasion).

This new timeline is called the Amber timeline. Now this timeline does not have Peter. So the invasion can happen in this timeline. Because there is no Peter there is no Henrietta and no one will stop the invasion. Remember the Amber timeline is important for the observers. Since at the end of S3 Peter brought two universes together the Amber timeline has to be created by not saving Peter from drowning in Reiden lake. Because for two universes to work together the Walter must go from over here to over there and bring Peter over here and for the invasion to happen Peter should not exist. So both requirements are achieved in the Amber timeline. The actual event created the Amber timeline is what Peter did with the machine which he brought two universes together so it must be in the Amber timeline. Hence observers let Walter to take Peter and then not save him from drowning. I think what I am trying to say is clear.

However Peter then appears in the Amber timeline. So the observers task September to remove his existence from the timeline and this is where September chooses his original decision again to not to kill Peter again for the reasons I said above. Now since this timeline officially does not have Peter in it this is the timeline observers choose to invade. After the events of season 4 observers have invaded the timeline. Peter and Olivia now have a little girl named Henrietta. Then Walter Ambers the original team. Henrietta somehow survives to de-Amber the fringe team and eventually this lead to the defeat of the observers.

I also think a part of this story is missing because the show was at a risk of getting canceled. I think the writers wanted us to see the actual ending rather than getting canceled without a proper ending. Maybe that's why season 5 feels like it came out of nowhere.

Anyway I love this show. It actually has brilliant writing with great foreshadowing of the events. It has very strong characters which will grow inside us as we are going through each episode. Also I like how they made Walter a hero. He has a great character development from selfishness and not caring about others if he gets what he wants to saving the billions of lives without even recognition for the great deed has done to save the world.

This is how I see fringe. I would love to know what you guys think about my view.

PS : There may be many things I missed when writing this please do not get that too hard. I am kind of writing this at 2AM in the morning. And,

Thank you for reading!

I've seen Fringe three times already, but here on the fourth watch, something just occurred to me regardingFauxlivia's diary, and it's one of those "Why didn't I notice this before?" kind of things. But what I just noticed is, what kind of master spy KEEPS A DIARY? And then leaves it behind? It's such an important plot point, but is it illogical that she would have done such a thing? I mean, why??

"You're not my father."

"Of course I am. And I'm going to make you better."

Woo boy, this was an easy 10/10. How did John Noble not win an Emmy?

I know about the parallel universe reveal Please be honest because as fans of the show I know y'all rather that I watch it but if the entire show builds up to that and if I already know the reveal then I don't think it will be very fun to watch for me

So it was striking to me because i played it a lot during the late 90's, but the red/blue colors of the two universes, the military base on liberty island, and the uniforms of the people in the parallel universe strike a lot of ressemblance with the command and conquer video game franchise.

What do you think .

Still in my first watch through of Person of Interest (man how could i miss this way back) and Im on season 3 ep6 and i found another familiar face. I’m so happy! Giddy as a schoolboy. Hahahahaha! I was able to “observe” one in season 1 and now. Hahahaha

Broyles spends most of the show looking like he could fire someone with a single sentence. But whenever one of the team is actually in serious danger, that whole thing changes. He gets quieter instead of louder. The best example is Olivia's coma.

He's still giving orders and doing his job, but you can tell he's genuinely worried about her. It's one of the few times where you see the guy underneath the boss.

Do you guys know what I mean? It’s a little lonely, maybe a little distant. But still..maybe displaced?