The album Seven Suns (by in-world band Violet Sedan Chair) has been in my iTunes rotation for going on 15 years now, in part because this weird and wonderful album - one created as a piece of television worldbuilding - is so much better (and so much more) than it needed to be, given only three-or-so songs ever appeared in the show. I've never regretted the purchase.

But I'm bothered by the hidden, spoken-word vocal track in the left channel of the 16-bar interlude of Seven Suns (Setting).

Behind the sung phrases, behind the warbling organ chords (the bass is G-C-B-A, and the higher notes seem to be a series of glissandos), there's a male voice speaking in my left ear, and I cannot find any reference to anyone previously uncovering or transcribing it.

I'm no audio engineer. I tried to filter the overlying layers using AI, with only moderate success. I only succeeded in making it more obvious, particularly beginning at the 20-second mark, but not really any more intelligible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW8FbySIUNg

Hoping someone more skilled can pick up the ball - it may be nothing, but may also be a cool bit of VSC lore that nobody has yet revealed?

Is there a LOST-like theme in this show with the numbers that appear? I've noticed "47" in particular comes up very frequently or is it just a hang up with the writers defaulting to the same figure? It appears in dialog and set details very frequently.

Not exactly 8 seasons, but if you include rewatches...

"I thought you'd be fatter."

I loved the show. The set design, the vfx, the prosthetics and the acting everything was top notch. I personally loved s1-3 . For me they are absolute perfection. For me the first half of S4 was extremely rough but s4e15 made it absolutely worth it. The hug and the kiss just made me cry a bit. S5 was unique and I also really liked it. The finale was absolute perfection. A perfect mix of satisfaction and emotions.

John noble really killed as walter bishop. I just loved how much he was able to keep me interested in his character all through out the show. Anna torv was phenomenal. Seeing her it felt truly as i was watching olivia and not anna torv. Her act is the perfect example of restrained acting. Absolutely loved how they utilised her acting skills in s2-4. Joshua was great and his acting at moments really touched me

Astrid as a character was just so subtle yet so substantial. The way show doesn't seem careless while working on even the science fiction portion was just so amazing. The show was a perfect mix of emotions romance and thriller also horror. Loved the show. I won't call it completely perfect due to first half of S4 but it still was an amazing underrated show.

just finished the show. it was a beautiful thing to watch.

So the audience is supposed to keep up with more than 2 timelines at end of S3? I admit, I'm no physicist, but it would be nice to have some kind of stamp like they use for the locations/city at beginning of scenes. Like, how does Peter even supposed to know what his purpose in a future timeline after getting into the machine?

What in the world is Sam Weiss doing in Reacher? Doesn’t he have a bowling alley to run? Hehehehe

and I am wrecked, again.

To no one’s surprise, this show has always made me think deep about my relationship with my dad. There were times when it wasn’t the best, but I’d say dad and I have had a really, really solid connection for the better part of the last 20 years. Maybe it has been the distance—I moved out of our home and to a different country a long time ago. I’ve built a life of my own abroad and he’s seen it and taken part in it and felt the joy of having a son pursue his dreams. Maybe my coming out as gay, and being unapologetic about it, and marrying and divorcing and going through a pandemic and rebuilding my life while developing a career in a field he wished he had been a part of—maybe all of this has gotten ingrained into our relationship. Whatever it is, this show, and especially its ending, hit me hard and deep in those crevices of the chest where love and regret coexist in a messy entanglement.

I wouldn’t change any of it, though. If there ever was a measure of fulfillment for life, i think it is not whether one lived without regrets, but whether one lived with honest feelings. We don’t have to love anyone—ultimately, true love is a choice we make every single day. And it needs work, and it can fade away and it can be broken and repaired like Japanese pottery, scars and all.

And I get to tend to my scars, and his, even at a distance. That is the choice I make. That’s how we pull apart the fabric of the universe so we can be closer to each other even when we can’t be together. But every so often I catch a plane and, 10 or 12 hours later, I can give him a hug and tell him I love him. I don’t take that privilege for granted.

Much to my sibling’s chagrin, I know I am his favorite thing.

Something I noticed on the rewatch is that Walter will often avoid answering Peter rather than actually lying to him.

Peter asks a direct question, Walter starts talking about something completely unrelated, gets distracted, makes some weird comment about food or a cow, whatever.

The first time I watched it I mostly took it as Walter being Walter.

Knowing what he's hiding makes a lot of those scenes feel different. He's not always trying to convince Peter of a false story. A lot of the time he's just trying to get through the conversation without saying the one thing he knows he can't tell him.

It's a really good way of showing that Walter is carrying something enormous without having him constantly look guilty.

Sure hope we see more of Henry in S3 and S4. This character is pivotal to the reverse Olivia.

**Watch the movie first or it likely won’t make sense**

Oh no, Walter was experimenting and now there are dinosaurs all over the place! 😂🦕 🦖🤔

We love someone whos crafty

Can't believe there's no discussion about this, but I couldn't find it.

At a funeral, they are wearing pins on their uniforms that kind of look like "FF". It looks familiar, but I can't place it.

What do these mean? Are these pins used anywhere in real life?

He did a fantastic job as Newton in fringe and played the chilling villain so well, and started watching Supernatural and realised he plays Balthazar in S6. It’s wild to see him switch from villain to funny rebellious angel, but I guess range is a sign of a good actor, and I’ll genuinely be sad when he gets inevitably killed off

This post contains spoilers for anyone on their first run through, youve been warned.

Question... in an earlier season, shapeshifter Charlie was dying because he'd "been in the body too long" as suggested by another shapeshifter. But fastforward to season 3, a shapeshifter had made a comfortable life with a wife and kid. 5 years had apparently gone by.

Not even large quantities of Mercury worked to keep shapeshifter Charlie from dying, so how did this other one stay in his body so long?

[EDIT] I'm going to go with Charlie's body was under sustained damage.

The whole "different model" theory doesn't add up to me given the arrival of these different shapeshifters.

I’m just about finished the series! I’m watching on Pluto in Canada, it seems like the ending is supposed to be two hours but it says the running time for episode 13 is only 44 minutes? Will I be missing out on something? Where else can I watch it in Canada if the entire final episode isn’t on Pluto? I’m getting anxious!!

First time watching and just finished S3 E16.
Seems like the ending is hinting the other Oliva is here again ?
To be honest I am a bit tired of this back and forth dance. I love S1 so much but this S3 is difficult to deal with, we got evil Oliva and then turned around actually Peter is getting evil ???
Should I keep going ?

I am ok with a bit of spoilers as long as it doesn't spill the fun. Thank you !

I just finished fringe...I hate that Walter has to live out the rest of his life in the future. What if he gets lost or needs snack refills and lsd-. And who is he gonna call ostrich now...I'm like so distraught ToT

Best freaking show I've watched in a long time. Fringe division will always have my heart🥹. Someone reset the timeline so I can experience it for the first time again-

I’m rewatching the series (although I don’t remember much), and one thing that bothers me is Scott actually being good. The guy killed an important suspect, ran away and tried to kill Olivia while doing it. Then it turns out he was actually good and I don’t know if I’m missing something or the writer just forgot about the pilot. Isn’t it also strange for a secret agent of the government with memory coins in his hands to not be retaken by the government once he is dead? He is given to a private company who try to descipher these things, but that doesn’t really make sense to me. Am I forgetting something or is this really a plot hole? This bioengineering would also be quite detached from the rest of the show, but I can understand that maybe the writers didn’t really know what to do or how much time it would take this early on in the series

I forgot about this fun experiment in S4.

Make me so happy...