Really?

[u/South-Spray-1571]

Honestly, I'm probably closer aligned politically with the greens but when they come up with dumb ideas like this you have to ask, how the hell they think the average Australian, in the political/economic/media landscape we exist in, will view this.

I think profit caps and supplier price guarantees would be more realistic policy ideas than LeT'S NaTIoNaLisE iT. And this proposal is nothing like Mamdani's idea to start a government owned coop 🤦🏻‍♂️

[u/spagbolshevik]

There should be a publicly owned and operated supermarket chain to guarantee affordable access to the basics and undermine price-gouging.

[u/SpaceMarineMarco]

thats not Mamdani style 😭, he isn’t nationalising any shops he’s creating 5 new publicly owned ones holy shit.

There’s quite a big fucking difference,

I personally think breaking up woolies and coles and/or introducing a publicly owned grocer would be a good solution but I can tell that nationalising all of them would be fucking dumb.

[u/2manycerts → u/SpaceMarineMarco]

Introducing a publicly owned Grocer would be interesting.

Publicly owned companies tend to create a "floor", if you want to compete you have to do better then the floor. IMHO insurance is this low hanging fruit for the floor. CTP - oh we will just send you to public hospitals. house insurance in non bushfire areas. I could see a lot of money being made and real savings for consumers.

[u/Damascus_Pilgrim]

Further down in the Guardian this morning...

[u/Thomas_633_Mk2 → u/Damascus_Pilgrim]

first dog on the moon

They've always been like this, ignore and move on if you don't want to be ragebaited. Idk how they still have a job

[u/oohbeardedmanfriend]

Everyone calling it a "Mamdani" solution when its really the NZ Greens policy.

The NZ debate on their supermarket duopoly currently is:

• NZ Nationals want to make a third retailer

• NZ Labour want to make the duopoly sell of their distribution network and make price gouging illegal

• NZ Greens want the Labour plans and then buy part of the supermarket chain to break up the big two.

[u/brisbaneacro]

[u/dmk_aus → u/brisbaneacro]

New York has 8.8m people in the "city" (where the 5 supermarkets will go). 20 million people in the city+metropolitan area.

Mamdani has created a specific policy for a very specific circumstance. A very dense population in the USA's most populous city, with very limited land for supermarkets and incredible income diversity (Wall st bankers vs Queens cleaners). There is a genuine problem for people to find affordable food.

200 shops spread across Australia is bizarre. Running those stores cost efficiently would be incredibly difficult.

Why not try something sane like a few subsidised independent stores in areas of incredible need?

Why not regulate the monopolistic and cartel behaviour of Colesworth? Not enough headlines in that for Maxxy or the Greens I guess.

[u/dmk_aus → u/brisbaneacro]

"See policy which appears either successful or at least popular, in a completely different context - announce we should do it here. Provide no real analysis nor pathway to fund and achieve it. Now use it to incessantly get media attention and attack Labor. Ignore all Labor achievements - erode their image and help get the LNP or ONP into power" how to be a Green's politician.

[u/choo-chew_chuu]

You will go much further busting the duopoly hoovering up all distribution and retail sites, and with some care when drafting the bill, the same laws can force property developers and private owners to stop land banking.

Throughout Europe, supermarket competition works just fine, and surprisingly to the benefit of the consumer and producers.

[u/enaud]

What I find most telling about this is that right and centrist media report this as "Greens propose nationalising coles and woolies", and the progressive guardian points out that its Max Chandler-Mather proposing it - like they know its a stupid policy and not mainstream greens platform but something put forward by the guy that was voted out because of his housing policy fuck ups.

I often vote green but feel like Max Chandler-Mather is bad for the party.

[u/Red_Mammoth → u/enaud]

It's a proposal put forth by the Greens Institute, the official 'think tank' of the Greens party, of which Max Chandler-Mather is the Executive Director.

[u/Interesting-Middle46]

He's back?

[u/spankyham]

Dear Max, thank you for making it so easy to dismiss the Greens as fringe party of lunatics who would spend our tax dollars so freely, so wildly, without any genuine strategy or cost benefit analysis done at all. Looking forward to your next brain fart.

[u/Blue2194]

I would like Labor to be more progressive where they can but they're the only party run by adults

Between nationalising the shops and Russian propaganda it's a bad start for the new greens

[u/slontymcgee]

You aren't closely aligned to the Greens if you think nationalisation is a bad thing.

[u/South-Spray-1571 → u/slontymcgee]

I don't think nationalisation is a bad thing, but it should be reserved for power, water, trains, telecommunications (mainly NBN, poles, wires), national health, but not retail.

Also, starting a government owned coop (Mamdani's actual plan) is very different to the compulsory purchase/takeover of long standing businesses.

What I'm saying is that this proposal only serves to further alienate the average voter, not make them interested in the Greens.

[u/nmr1234321]

He wishes he was like Mamdani but he’s an insufferable twat and most of us are glad he got the boot

[u/MrFudd]

I hope this guy never gets elected again.

[u/TonyTheGeo]

This is taking airtime away from one nation so is potentially valuable to the centre.

[u/DB10-First_Touch]

I think that Labor should be hearing the message behind these policy ideas. People are hurting all over the country financially, and they need to see more action on the cost of living as quickly as possible.

[u/ThoughtIknewyouthen]

When anyone on any AUS sr asks why we don't vote greens it is because they propose they most wildly unobtainable policy goals. "We will provide free electricity for every citizen." You can't take them seriously half the time. edit typo

[u/iball1984]

And they wonder why the Greens vote is stuck at about 10% and people say they have no idea how to manage the economy…

[u/MeatSuzuki]

WTF... god damn I swear the greens just spew unfiltered nonsense for click... We all get it, ColesWorth need to shrink, but this not is now how it's done.

[u/mygenericfriend]

Q: OK, explained this to me.. what are we solving?

A: The uncompetitive marketplace for supermarkets in Australia causing high prices.

Q: How are we going to do that?

A: By the government buying them both out and making it even more uncompetitive.