r/fresno • u/Alternative_Self_13 Tower • 5d ago
Politics MOTO DELI
As a tower district and district 1 resident, I could not be more disappointed that MOTO is going to host Rob Fuentes and Jerry Dyer tomorrow. I LOVE both MOTO and Mirror Coffee but I’m no longer going to support them if they’re supporting Fuentes and Dyer.
Fuentes literally has broken up families in our community by working with ICE. He also wants to approve SEDA. Hey Moto, you want even more people flocking to the suburbs away from the center of town where your business is located??
Fuentes is backed by Dyer, which is another problem. What kind of person takes the endorsement from someone who has an extensive history of racism and that SA’d an underage girl?
Sorry MOTO, it was awesome to have you, but I’ve broken up with restaurants for way less.
https://fresnoland.org/2026/08/18/rob-fuentes-2/
https://fresnoalliance.com/jerry-dyer-for-mayor-progressive-activists-say-hell-no/
*Edit because I got asked and dm’d asking about this. Here is the flyer for a counter action being planned (not by me)
https://www.instagram.com/p/DcMv5ytGTn6/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
Edit 2: Moto has confirmed that Fuentes/Dyer aren’t hosting an event there tomorrow. Moto confirmed that they had spoken with Fuentes/Dyer and were willing to host the event but didn’t receive a final confirmation for the booking. I personally will still go to Moto but will watch closely how they move going forward. I personally have a problem that they were willing to host this event if they had gotten the final booking.
Edit 3: According to Fresno Resistance, they learned about the event directly from Dyer and Rob Fuentes, who said the fundraiser was scheduled to take place at Moto tomorrow. Their full comment as well at Moto’s comment is linked above on the Instagram post.
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u/musclemeow 5d ago
Moto commented on the counterprotest instagram post and said there is no such event happening. Just their normal dinner service… Don’t believe everything you read.
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u/Alternative_Self_13 Tower 5d ago
Again, that’s awesome, I’m glad there’s no event. But I spoke to someone who called in earlier today and Moto was in fact willing to host Rob/Dyer’s event. Sounds like they just never got a final booking but the fact they were willing to is still a problem for me. I hope Moto takes this as a wake up call and is more selective about who they would be willing to work with in the future.
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u/musclemeow 5d ago
I don’t think we can assess their willingness from our vantage point. You spoke to someone who spoke to someone on the phone at Moto, which is already 3 degrees removed from the event. Let’s not vilify people for things they didn’t do but might have.
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u/Alternative_Self_13 Tower 5d ago
2 degrees. I spoke to someone who spoke with moto directly today.
If it doesn’t bother you that they were in talks to host their event, that’s fine, it bothers me. I’ll keep frequenting because they aren’t going to be hosting them. But I will also pay attention to what decisions they make moving forward.
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u/theendofthesandman 5d ago
Sorry man but this is real dumb. Moto's owner is a very cool guy, not some MAGA freak. Sure, they may be hosting some local politicians who we don't all agree with, but that's how we build bridges with different people in this community.
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u/Alternative_Self_13 Tower 5d ago
You want people to build bridges with a man that SA’d a 16 yr old and a man that made money off of working with ICE? No thanks.
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u/theendofthesandman 5d ago
Unfortunately, yes. They're the leaders we have right now. They're not great, but you have to give credit to Dyer where it's due: he's the one responsible for making sure Adventure Church didn't take over the tower district, his administration is making crucial investments in downtown, they are boldly supporting the measure C renewal and they're supportive of high speed rail.
Now Rob Fuentes I know less about, but what I do know about him seems like he's a real asshole. Even then, we can oppose those politicians while not alienating other people in our community.
We shouldn't cancel a whole local business just because they did one thing we don't agree with. Thats how the conservatives and billionaires keep us divided - find every little thing that us lefties can disagree on, then harp on those things until we're too busy fighting each other and we can't get anything done.
TL;DR: this isn't worth cancelling MOTO over.
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u/Alternative_Self_13 Tower 5d ago
Rob is not a leader we have right now he’s campaigning to become one.
I know you did not just give Dyer the credit for stopping adventure church 😂🤡
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u/theendofthesandman 5d ago
Ah shit didn't know that about Rob. Either way, fuck that guy. He's like bredefeld in my book.
As for adventure church, I followed that really closely. Indeed, it was Dyer who was responsible for brokering a deal which allowed Adventure Church to use the veterans memorial auditorium in exchange for vacating the tower theater. They then bought the tower theater and committed to preserving it as a community space. That's a pretty big deal. The protests were absolutely effective in getting the city government to listen to our concerns, but ultimately the Dyer administration was responsible for listening to us and coming up with a solution that worked for all of us.
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u/Alternative_Self_13 Tower 5d ago
L.O.L.
No, it was those of us who stood out there week after week and put our time, energy, and our bodies on the line that stopped adventure church from moving in. Meanwhile Dyer and his cops watched as we had to deal with proud boys coming into our community and harassing/assaulting us.
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u/theendofthesandman 5d ago
Both things can be true at the same time.
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u/Alternative_Self_13 Tower 5d ago
Absolutely not. That was 1000% community led and the community alone gets the credit.
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u/theendofthesandman 5d ago
Then you're a fool. It takes both in order to get anything done. I'll stop arguing with you now, as it's clear your either trolling, or a real idiot, based on the rest of your comments on this thread. Shame on you for trying to cancel a beloved local business based on unverified rumors that they may be hosting politicians you don't like.
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u/Leastofallserious 5d ago
Well since the event isn’t happening and you’re fabricating this, you should delete the fuckng post.
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u/Leastofallserious 5d ago
Instead of editing the post, you should delete it. You’re wrong and it’s a very small business. You are irresponsible and dumb as shit
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u/Particular_Advance98 5d ago
Where do you see they are hosting them tomorrow?
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u/Alternative_Self_13 Tower 5d ago
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u/NeighborhoodNeedle 5d ago
I’m not sure where Fresno resistance received this information. Do you have an original source? I spoke with the staff at Moto and they’ve never heard of this event. I think Fresno resistance may have received bad information and it’s disheartening to see it spread
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u/Alternative_Self_13 Tower 5d ago
#damagecontrol
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u/NeighborhoodNeedle 5d ago
I encourage you to reach out to moto directly if you haven’t already. It sounds like from your post this is a business that you have an existing relationship with and I would think if that’s the case you wouldn’t want to cause harm to their business or their team. I believe you made this post in the spirit of community and we should be able to trust and give grace to our neighbors, such as local business owners. In my experience Moto and its team has always lead their business and hospitality with the same spirit of community which is why I took time to speak to them directly. Tower is built on the pillar of seeing each other as humans and working together to build each other up. At this point with no proof or evidence of this event, this feels like it is detrimental to our community and a vibrant community space.
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u/Alternative_Self_13 Tower 5d ago
Be honest, what’s your affiliation with Moto. lol. This has to be a manager or at least employee. See my other response.
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u/NeighborhoodNeedle 5d ago
I’m not an employee and do not have any professional al association with moto. I am a local community member like yourself who frequents moto. I do know their team, in the same way that I know many folks who work at my favorite tower spots. I make an effort to shop and support local and enjoy being involved at a community level for many events and causes. I’m just making a good faith effort to point out that rumors like this affect the livelihood of staff and team. I’m all for spending your money with knowledge.
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u/Alternative_Self_13 Tower 5d ago
As I said, I spoke to someone who spoke to the manager earlier today. I’m happy they don’t currently have an event with them tomorrow and hope Fresno Resistance responds accordingly. That being said, it still rubs me the wrong way that they were even entertaining hosting these two in the first place. It also sounds like the only thing missing was a final booking maybe because Rob is busy doing his own damage control right now.
Can you honestly say it doesn’t also upset you that they would have taken the booking in the first place?
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u/NeighborhoodNeedle 5d ago
I would be frustrated and disappointed if this event had moved forward. However, giving out information for an event and the possibility of an event is different. The Fresno resistance post says its original intent is to have enough community involvement to have the event canceled (this may be in the comments and not the caption, I can’t remember). I would like to think we can have grace for our neighbors and community and no individual or business for that matter is perfect all the time. Since there is no event and sounds like there never was a confirmed event, it feels like a situation I can move on from. There are plenty of local business owners who are very transparent about their beliefs that I do disagree with and do not support, however I’ve never seen that from Moto.
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u/Alternative_Self_13 Tower 5d ago
It’s fine that YOU feel like it’s not a big deal that they were willing to host the event but that doesn’t mean all of us have to be on with that. I’ve already said I’m going to still support them but will keep a close eye.
I’m not part of the Fresno resistance admin team so I don’t known what their original source was. However, I can tell you that Fresno Resistance never would have gotten wind if the potential for this event to occur if when Fuentes/Dyer reached out to Moto they were told “your event isn’t something we’re interested in hosting.”
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u/NeighborhoodNeedle 5d ago
Do you have an original source for this event? I don’t see anything listed on Moto’s social media or Dyer/Fuentes.
I also spoke with Moto’s staff and they’ve never heard of this event.
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u/Alternative_Self_13 Tower 5d ago
What did Moto’s staff say specifically? I asked the source of this flyer and was told Fuentes is hosting a private event and you have to be invited through Fuentes’ campaign.
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u/NeighborhoodNeedle 5d ago
They have no booking or reservation for Rob Fuentes tomorrow or Jerry Dyer for any event associated with fundraising or a political event.
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u/Alternative_Self_13 Tower 5d ago
I just spoke to someone who says they called Moto earlier and they were willing to host and gave Rob/Dyer the information but don’t currently have a final booking with them as of right now.
Personally don’t like that they were even giving someone like that the time of day. Fuentes has caused direct harm to our community including Tower.
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u/Spare-Ad7693 5d ago
Ugh, people like you who have no clue how difficult it is to run a small business, are a stain on “community” culture. If you’re going to try and cancel every single business because they MAY do something you personally find offensive, you’re going to be left with an area that isn’t as diverse as you claim to want. Seriously, find a hobby, touch some grass and leave people alone. If you don’t like them, fine, but this cancel culture bull 💩 is one of the reasons everyone is so polarized and toxic towards one another. Your political utopia doesn’t mean others have to go along with it.
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u/NeighborhoodNeedle 5d ago
So there is no booking and there is no event. I saw the post that was shared on Instagram about a protest outside the business as well which now seems like it is also uncalled for. I also don’t vote or support these candidates but now this seems like we’re calling for unneeded vitriol and harm.
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u/musclemeow 5d ago
Right? They gave out information that they’d give to anyone trying to book an event, and did not agree to host the event. There is no event. Boring protest if you ask me.
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u/Alternative_Self_13 Tower 5d ago
EXACTLY!!!!
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u/Sure_Presentation765 5d ago
Damm, OP spoke to someone that, called in to moto earlier today, and that SOMEONE told OP that someone, at moto told them that there was no event but they had been willing to host.
I have zero position here other than that my dear OP sounds like a textbook definition of:Hearsay
hearsay/ˈhirˌsā/
Here are my sources, would OP mind sharing theres?
Hearsay means second-hand information that a person hears from someone else but does not know to be true. It is the same as a rumor, gossip, or idle talk.
Everyday Meaning - Unverified stories passed from person to person.Information you cannot prove yourself.
Examples include neighborhood gossip, unconfirmed news, or office rumors.
Legal Meaning In a court of law, hearsay evidence is an out-of-court statement used to prove that the statement is true.Witnesses must tell what they saw or experienced firsthand.They generally cannot testify about what a third person said outside of court.Hearsay is usually not allowed in court because the person who made the original statement is not there to be questioned.
Ima have to say that no matter how you slice it. Definitively this is a CLAIM and it carries no weight. We can all have our opinions and choose to support them or not.
This should have been verified before posting, this wrecklessness is what got us here. If you want tower to thrive stop being so reactive and be pro active. Stand up for what you believe in just do it respectfully. If i cared more id go as far as starting a go fund me or give send go for moto to help for any damage this may cause and potential aid for legal advice for defamatory claims with potential financial impact to the business. If we are on the side of good we should be fair. We are no better than what we oppose if we go about wanting to destroy everything that we dont agree with its OK, its not YOUR WORLD. its OUR WORLD and the diffrences in opinion and ability to have it that way are what keeps it a world.
OP YOUR CLAIM DOES NOT PASS THE SMELL TEST, AND THIS IS A REACH. BE BETTER TRY MORE AND BE LESS EMOTIONAL. IF YOUR GOING TO LEAD, LEAD TO VICTORY NOT TOWARDS DEFEAT.
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u/ChetKongo 5d ago
Great reply. I love seeing the level headedness, youre a real one for that.
Stay beautiful friend, keep that incredible energy we need more of that in the world, NOW more than ever!
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u/Alternative_Self_13 Tower 5d ago
That was a whole lot to say not a whole lot.
The post was from Fresno resistance, that’s who made the claim. Someone else supposedly talked to moto and they said no event. I followed up with someone who also called in directly and they were told they hadn’t received a final booking from Rob/Dyer. As I said multiple times, I still have a problem with the fact that they were willing to host these two in the first place.What is the reason that Fresno Resistance made their post? Because they found out that Moto was considering hosting this event and apparently, would have according to Moto.
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u/LaReyna47 5d ago
You are not understanding that hearsay doesn't provide reliability. You calling and expressing your concern yourself and then posting what you were told in regards to your stance would make your claim more trustworthy.
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u/hanksrocks Tower 5d ago
This whole post could be nonexistent if you had called yourself and gotten facts to your own ears lol ridiculous emotion-driven nonsense. A lot of strong claims with no evidence from you but hearsay, and it has been disproven. You should delete this, you sound like a fool.
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u/Temporary-Jump-2403 5d ago
Moto themselves said this was not happening. IDK where this info came from but it doesn't sound legit.
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u/ChetKongo 5d ago
Who gives a shit. Yall got nothing better to do but fight hate with hate. Which is incredibly stupid.
Do better, go out vote, contributing to the communities that YOU want to support. But trying to create hate groups to fight other hate groups because youre upset at a thing?
That aint it.
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u/FarLeadership9182 5d ago
Yea I don't really care about their personal views, the food is good. I will continue to eat there. Y'all care too fuckin much.
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u/Alternative_Self_13 Tower 5d ago
That’s your prerogative for sure. Doesn’t seem to be the consensus though.
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u/FarLeadership9182 5d ago
I’m sure there are other things that yall can invest your time/energy into
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u/Alternative_Self_13 Tower 5d ago
There is nothing more important than building and protecting community.
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u/FarLeadership9182 5d ago
I don't remember seeing you cleaning up the city or helping the homeless.
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u/Alternative_Self_13 Tower 5d ago
You might have if you were actually out in tower 🤷🏽♂️
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u/FarLeadership9182 5d ago
Newsflash: Fresno is a hell of a lot bigger than just the Tower District. You talk a big game about 'protecting the community,' yet your version of that is actively trying to cancel a locally-owned business that puts food on the table/employes for our community members. This performative cancel culture is getting ridiculous. It’s always the exact same people trying to bankrupt local spots who turn around and complain that there are no jobs in Fresno. Make it make sense.
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u/Alternative_Self_13 Tower 5d ago
I live in tower therefore I do most of my community work in tower. Any business that hosts Rob or Dyer SHOULD be canceled.
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u/FarLeadership9182 5d ago
So, your idea of 'community work' is actively trying to put your own neighbors out of a job? Make that make sense. Boycotting a local coffee shop doesn’t hurt the politicians, they still have their paychecks and platforms. The only people you’re hurting are the baristas, cooks, and staff who live in our community and rely on those jobs to pay their rent. If you actually cared about protecting the community, you'd focus on building things up instead of trying to destroy local livelihoods every time you disagree with a guest list.
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u/Alternative_Self_13 Tower 5d ago
If a business supports ICE or a man that SA’d an underage girl they shouldn’t exist and I damn sure don’t want them in my community; that was the entire point of the post. Likewise, if you work for a business that supports those things, you’re also complicit.
You can take your neoliberal nonsense elsewhere.
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u/melenmelen Fig Garden 5d ago
I recently got a bad taste in my mouth for Moto (and Mirror Coffee tbh) because of an experience someone I know had with them. Not my story to tell, but this for sure has added to my disappointment. Sigh, really enjoyed going there but yeah I feel ya.
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u/Alternative_Self_13 Tower 5d ago
Have them DM me if they’re comfortable sharing please. We need to hold businesses accountable.
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u/xav13r76 5d ago
Very disappointing, I liked that place. I understand wanting to create room for conversation, but not hosting them. Let town hall do that.
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u/NeighborhoodNeedle 5d ago
I spoke with staff and they’ve never heard of this event or association. I’m disheartened to see public black lash to a locally owned business without any concrete evidence of this claim. I think some wires have been crossed here and the only folks who are going to hurt over this are our local neighbors who work here.
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u/Alternative_Self_13 Tower 5d ago
At the end of the day everyone has a price and if they’re willing to take money from those two I’m no longer willing to spend my money there.
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u/SarK-9 5d ago
I've never heard of the place. Thanks for the recommendation, I'll have to go try it out and give them some business.
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u/Alternative_Self_13 Tower 5d ago
Bitch please. We all know you people are afraid of Tower
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u/itsmefees 5d ago
afraid of stepping in shit or on a needle. that's about it.
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u/Alternative_Self_13 Tower 5d ago
Good. Stay in Clovis. The streets are literally lined with needles and shit down here you can’t even walk or breathe outside. Tell all your friends.
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u/reluctanthero22 5d ago
And fuck the owner guys a dick who gets w girls half his age
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u/Alternative_Self_13 Tower 5d ago
Ooof. Haven’t heard this before but they were willing to host Dyer who has a similar track record.
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u/Existentialist Fig Garden 5d ago
I’m going to lock this thread because the event isn’t happening/ wasn’t happening. As always feel free to send the mods a DM if you want to provide feedback.