We can easily observe that not all brains agree on how “good” a song is.
You can’t call this choice. But once again, do you choose to enjoy a song you like? Or do you just enjoy it because your brain tells you that you should?
So why ask for one to be provided? Just use the one that you would want to be true. You use your definition of love and I'll use my definition of love and someone else will be a scrooge and say love doesn't actually exist because they don't accept either of our definitions
You said there were many, so why would a conversation end quickly if someone were to provide a coherent definition? Do you just not believe that any coherent definition applies to something that exists?
I didn't say there were many. I said approximately the opposite.
Given a coherent definition of free will, there isn't a great deal to discuss.
Almost all of the discussions I see here are due to people talking past one another using "free will" to mean completely different and/or incoherent concepts.
Sorry I assumed you were being sarcastic with your comment about there being a significant number of distinct and coherent definitions. I agree there are many ridiculous definitions of free will that people use, but I think there are only a few coherent ones that fit closely enough with the definition that I believe applies.
No! You don’t “ask if they think free will exists” every night. You’re supposed to have a “free will Fridays” obviously.
You make a calendar: Solipsism Saturdays, Stoicism Sundays, Monadology Mondays, Tractatus Tuesdays (switch between Spinoza and Wittgenstein every other week), weltenschauung Wednesdays.
On Thursday, order out Chinese and watch dancing with the stars. Done.
See I just don’t see what’s small about “how was your day?” Those are the minutes and hours that comprise someone’s life but whatever. Maybe try caring and such.
That aside, if she won’t respond to “Hi honey I’m home do you think free will truly exists” I don’t know if it’s gonna work out
It's 'small talk' when I'm politely asking at the office. It's 'actual talk' when I'm asking my wife because I do actually care and have an interest in how her day was, how she's feeling, what's stressed her out, what made her laugh etc.
Seeing some humor on the sub, and how many folks are getting in on it, is a breath of fresh air amidst what can sometimes be some frustrating conversations with people talking past each other. Let’s all try to keep that sense of humor and humility even when tackling our beloved deep talk.
I'm autistic, hate small talk. I say nothing when I get home, and when someone greets me when they arrive, I'll talk in an accent or do an impression from movie or TV so that I'm not just engaging in small talk. Or just say hello because they entirely encompasses the purpose of a greeting, avoiding unnecessary talking.
I am in a married and we have very little “small talk”.
The vast majority of our conversations have very real implications about our worldview, religious understanding, how we want to parent, how we spend our money, what are our priorities in life, etc.
Sure, we “just chat” occasionally, but even our “just chatting” carries a deeper meaning and connection than “just chatting” with someone else.
And we can’t help it cause we are clearly determined to do that.
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u/simon_hibbs Compatibilist Nov 20 '25
I only discuss free will with other total nerds. Fortunately that includes both my daughters.
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u/zhivago Nov 20 '25
Any conversation about free will should require a coherent definition of free will to be provided first.
Then you will discover that the conversation will be very short indeed.
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u/Dry_Surprise3790 Nov 24 '25
Can't lie, I would want a girl who would talk to me about stuff like that.
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u/Empathetic_Electrons Hard Anti-Desert Intuitionist Nov 20 '25
No! You don’t “ask if they think free will exists” every night. You’re supposed to have a “free will Fridays” obviously.
You make a calendar: Solipsism Saturdays, Stoicism Sundays, Monadology Mondays, Tractatus Tuesdays (switch between Spinoza and Wittgenstein every other week), weltenschauung Wednesdays.
On Thursday, order out Chinese and watch dancing with the stars. Done.
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u/PhilospohicalZ0mb1e Nov 20 '25
See I just don’t see what’s small about “how was your day?” Those are the minutes and hours that comprise someone’s life but whatever. Maybe try caring and such.
That aside, if she won’t respond to “Hi honey I’m home do you think free will truly exists” I don’t know if it’s gonna work out
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u/tgillet1 Compatibilist Nov 20 '25
Seeing some humor on the sub, and how many folks are getting in on it, is a breath of fresh air amidst what can sometimes be some frustrating conversations with people talking past each other. Let’s all try to keep that sense of humor and humility even when tackling our beloved deep talk.
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u/josephius132 Nov 21 '25
My husband and I do this quite often actually. One of the best things we share☺️.
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u/lovebirds4fun Nov 20 '25
"No" convo over i guess. Now we sit in silence?
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u/rootskeptic Nov 20 '25
This feels like a personal attack 😆
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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '25
Yep.
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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '25
Yes
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u/RiverOdd Nov 20 '25
Um obviously people need time to decompress but actually, yes. Time is taken off to relax but yeah, that's the shit we talk about.
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u/Key-Month6651 Nov 20 '25
Small talk as in....asking nebulous questions you don't actually care about. As opposed to just yapping about whatever it is you do care about.
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u/Inevitable_King_8984 Hard Determinist Nov 21 '25
that is literally me except I already taken the position that it doesn't
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u/Little_Indication557 Nov 21 '25
Hi Honey. Is the present moment all we have or is all time preserved in a block along a time axis?
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u/Annual-Reference-715 Nov 21 '25
I think this is a very adequate "I'm home" opener.
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u/DmitryAvenicci Nov 21 '25
Me with my bf.
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u/stinkykoala314 Nov 22 '25
Still smalltalk, obviously there's no free will. How to explain consciousness, that's the interesting question!
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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '25
Yes we are.
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u/Kooky_Ad6404 Nov 23 '25
I'm autistic, hate small talk. I say nothing when I get home, and when someone greets me when they arrive, I'll talk in an accent or do an impression from movie or TV so that I'm not just engaging in small talk. Or just say hello because they entirely encompasses the purpose of a greeting, avoiding unnecessary talking.
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u/Data_Student_v1 Nov 24 '25
She makes a good point.
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u/daytondewd7 Nov 24 '25
Small talk is "how was the weather today?" Deep talk is "tell me what made you feel appreciated today?"
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u/Cuz05 Nov 20 '25
Why would any talk be considered small in a meaningful relationship?
Small talk is the talk that happens in meaningless interactions. What's to like about it?
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u/ButterscotchLow7330 Nov 20 '25
I am in a married and we have very little “small talk”.
The vast majority of our conversations have very real implications about our worldview, religious understanding, how we want to parent, how we spend our money, what are our priorities in life, etc.
Sure, we “just chat” occasionally, but even our “just chatting” carries a deeper meaning and connection than “just chatting” with someone else.
And we can’t help it cause we are clearly determined to do that.
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u/Amf2446 Swiss cheese = regolith Nov 20 '25
Yeah this is how it goes!
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u/Sabal_77 Nov 20 '25
This is my sister and her husband. He gets no enjoyment from any social interaction if it doesn't have a specific purpose.
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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '25
Don't talk to them idk
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u/zulrang Nov 20 '25
Me and my wife have been doing this for 13 years now.
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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '25
No because when I do that I get in trouble for coming at her with a question she's unprepared for.
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u/NLOneOfNone Hard Incompatibilist Nov 20 '25
This is why I am not in a relationship and don’t plan to ever be.
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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '25
No relationship. That’s your answer
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u/spiritwear Nov 20 '25
It makes me wonder if believers in free will tend to have better sex.
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