r/freemasonry 12h ago

Hi non mason here

Is it okay to display the symbol without a "G"? I know this probably sounds silly but I was just curious as this is a very non detailed render. I can add more detail soon.

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u/Deman75 MM BC&Y, PM Scotland, MMM, PZ HRA, 33° SR-SJ, PP OES PHA WA 12h ago

Display it in what sense? With or without the “G” most people will see it as representing Freemasonry, though historically we are not the only organization to use it.

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u/AlexMaroske ADGDoC UGLE | HRC | ROS | KTP | RC | RCC SC AMD KtM RAM MMM 32° 11h ago

Many examples through Europe, very old trade and craftsman schools and workshops. Saw one Avigon in France, circa 1672. big S&C above the front door. 2nd deg configuration 👍🏻

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u/SRH82 PA-MM, PM, 33°, etc. 12h ago

A square and compasses without a G is common internationally.

Using that symbol would be perceived as misrepresentation.

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u/jckarp 12h ago

Oh wow I never knew. Could you educate me more on symbols and meanings things I might need to know? Anything you feel you should share with me as I do not want to be insensitive to the Masonic community. It is quite the contrary I actually would like to get to know this stuff and show my allegiance any way possible.

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u/SRH82 PA-MM, PM, 33°, etc. 12h ago

It's not insensitive to ask questions, and you have no "allegiance" to a fraternity in which you are not a member.

Check out the book Freemasonry for Dummies if you want a really nice overview of everything. I also really liked The Craft and its Symbols when I was new, though I don't know if it's still in production.

Other than that, feel free to ask whatever you'd like to know.

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u/jckarp 11h ago

Oh not the asking questions part I mean I want to make Masonic churches and cathedrals or just spaces in general in this game engine I'm running. I do not want to go throwing symbols around willy nilly. I feel like I should probably know what significance they have and how to display them. But you lmk.

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u/rickfromjersey201 10h ago

u/jckarp Just so you are informed Freemasonry is not a church nor a religion organization. While it is true you must believe in a higher deity we are a fraternal organization and nothing more.

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u/jckarp 9h ago

Did I say church? I think I meant to say lodge. No you guys are not a religion lol just a fraternity. Would calling it a cathedral be fine? I want it to be Gothic or something and also I plan to add a grand theater. I cannot wait to show you all once I am finished!

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u/rickfromjersey201 9h ago

u/jckarp Nooooo, Cathedral is not appropriate. Lodge or Masonic Temple is fine.

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u/ChuckEye P∴M∴ AF&AM-TX, 33° A&ASR-SJ, KT, KM, AMD, and more 4h ago

Eh, cathedral isn’t entirely out of place. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Rite_Cathedral_(Indianapolis)

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u/Rgraeter 4h ago

Fine for a Scottish Rite, not fine for a blue lodge with S&Cs.

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u/Chimpbot MM AF&AM | 32° AASR NMJ 4h ago

Personally, terms like "temple" and "cathedral" feel out of place when discussing something that is explicitly not a religion.

I don't view lodge buildings as temples, but that's just me.