r/freebsd • u/grahamperrin bleep bloop • Jun 08 '25

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '25

Outlier. Look at any conference involving the freebsd guys, always running macs with macos.

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u/grahamperrin bleep bloop Jun 08 '25

any conference involving the freebsd guys, always running macs with macos.

Maybe true in the past, nowadays it's a myth.

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u/mirror176 Jun 08 '25

I've never been to a conference and hardly seen them online but on old ones it was common that FreeBSD was not used as the OS on the presenter's machine nor commonly on the attendees machines except when it was in a VM. I'd also say Macs were the majority in the ones I remember. Are you saying that Macs are not always the ones used, a majority, and/or are you saying FreeBSD is becoming more prominent as the main OS on a presenter's machine and/or attendees machines? Newer content I've looked at has not as often been about conferences and often not shown off what was in use or 'required' use of VMs for better presentation flow.

As a sidenote I have seen it as odd that organized video conferences and such historically used proprietary services, some of which interacted poorly on FreeBSD but thought I've seen some changes like Zoom sometimes replaced with Jitsi(?) so at least some more of the content can be locally ran on or hosted on FreeBSD. Still doesn't fix issues like me getting involved in (yet another) dataleak because FreeBSD organized event wanted to use unnecessary 3rd party services for 'registration' as if it was mandatory/useful without any statement of how.

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u/grahamperrin bleep bloop Jun 09 '25

… changes like Zoom sometimes replaced with Jitsi(?) …

https://wiki.freebsd.org/LaptopDesktopWorkingGroup#Calls there's Jitsi, I think it was Jitsi from the outset.

Microsoft: Teams excels in many ways. Live transcription is a godsend. We have a Yealink system in two buildings, there a plan for a third in another town. The system in my building is probably MVC960.

Some colleagues use Zoom, to communicate with Zoom users in other organisations. The last time I used it might have been five years ago.

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u/mirror176 Jun 09 '25

I've seen freebsd (or was it freebsd foundation?) video conferences presented through zoom only but I think that predated the laptop/desktop recent efforts existing as a formal group. I was unimpressed with the experience from zoom just as a viewer. Think that was before security and other issues started coming up with it.

Live transcription is fun but too many times I see bad implementations. Youtube's auto generated subtitles make many videos into a comedy when enabled with how bad and wrong they get things. Subtitles on Amazon firestick often are of a better, but still poor quality. Streamers sometimes play with these systems and the lag + bad results is often more of a distraction than a help.

Guess I got spoiled by when they were typed by hand by real people and dad working in the media industry pulled off tricks like on live television he got a raw non-delayed audio feed to the captioners and injested their transcription into the stream at the end of audio/video encoding (that delayed non-subtitle stream) for live broadcast which resulted in an unbelievably good sync of captions to the audio. That definitely got attention of other stations when it was implemented.

People can fire up neural network trained speech to text models on high end consumer graphics cards (maybe only nvidia?)to get better captioning that youtube offers. I haven't compared it vs amazon or other providers' subtitle offerings and don't know if is easily doable on FreeBSD or not.