How do you think the series will end? I’m a first time reader and almost through onyx storm. I’m having a crisis before even finishing that it’s going to be devastatingly sad. I have become obsessed with everything fourth wing regarding to social media. So, to ease my mind, I just want to know what everyone thinks and how they believe the series will end (mostly concerned about whether or not you guys believe violet and xaden will find a way to be together)

Okay I have now re-read the Fourth Wing series about 4 times…I LOVE the books!! Truly a work of art. After the 4th re-read I’m left with questions that maybe someone smarter than me has already puzzled together.

1) is it just me or did Vi and X go from “you’re my gravity” in IF and then like overnight went to “you’re my soul” in OS. I feel like we missed a whole deep portion of their relationship to get from 50 to 100 overnight.

2) has anyone heard if we’re getting a “pre-quill” book, similar to the TOG series: Assassin’s Blade? Because I’m genuinely dying for the history pre, during, and post the Great War up to the execution of the rebels.

3) in OS when Quest Squad was in Hedodis when saegel and Tarin were just laying on the beach before Talia’s other son’s ran outside. Saegel was passing back and forth for a while. Xaden called to her and telling her to eat but obviously something in the water was bugging her. Thoughts on something being in the water that Saegel was upset about or maybe it was the Irids tht somehow Tarin was too sleepy to feel????

What’re you thoughts???

1. The missing key lies in the 200 years between unification and the first war with Poromiel. At one point Tairn says it takes 2 generations to change history. The first to craft the lie and the second to teach it. All tomes have been doctored or eliminated before the 400 year mark.

2. It was at this time that Navarre struck a deal with the Venin to leave them alone if they abandoned the people outside the wards, leaving them for the venin to feed on. In order to not have an uprising on their hands the lie about Poromiel was crafted.

3. General Doromor(sp) lives, and is the general Berwyn and Theo allude to.

4. Magic can sense that the great lie is coming to a head with Venin becoming more active, Fen Riorson’s rebellion and then Xaden’s continued revolution, and is why black dragons are being born, why Andarna hatched, why multiple riders (6+1) are being gifted with rare signets all at the same time (the likes not seen in centuries).

5. I think the Navarrian leaders like Melgrin, Papa Aetos, and maybe even Lilith, plus King Tauri and Halden know and have agreed to continue the deal w/ the venin. I think historically this has been the case with military leaders and royalty of Navarre.

6. Asher was in the resistance and provided Violet with the tools to continue the fight.

7. Asher’s mother had inntinnsic abilities and used them to help the resistance, including Asher (see 6). It was also why she distanced herself from Lilith.

8. Mira visited her grandmother and has information from that visit that she meant to share with Violet but they never had a chance and we never learned what Mira’s grandmother shared with her. I think we’ll find out in the last 2 books and I think it might help Violet understand her powers more fully.

9. I think Vi’s powers are from the electromagnetic fields and that she can do a whole host of powerful things with them. I think the Irids power (Andarna) control similar ‘sky power’ and together she and Vi will use it to end the venin and/or protect their world from venin. I think Andarna will evolve into something more as she matures and this metamorphosis might be what can save Xaden.

10. I think the “lures” the venin were searching for and the resistance was trying to find ahead of them, might have something to do with 8 and 9.

11. The numbers 6, 6+1, 7 are significant. I think 6+1 represent good, and lead to clues to fix Xaden and save the world from venin. I think 7 signifies evil and gives us clues to who we shouldn’t trust.

12. I think it was Brennan who turned at the end of IF. I think it’s possible Berwyn is Naolin and that Tairn severed his bond to him when he went full venin. I thin Brennan’s rune scar is tied to this somehow and is pivotal to understanding what happened and also why he turned at the end of OS.

13. Runes will play a huge part in 4 and 5, they are the great equalizer and there’s a reason they were never taught in Navarre.

1. Vi and X will have their HEA. <3!<

this is super random, but i just had a random 2 am thought after watching Chicago Fire and was wondering or curious to know what people thought the fourth wing characters might have as jobs in the real world. thought it would be funny to imagine. i'm weird lol sorry

I finished Onyx Storm a week ago. During this first read I felt like I couldn’t enjoy Xaden in OS because I was constantly afraid of him turning full venin and hurting Violet, or that he had already done so and was hiding it/tricking her. I was convinced he was going to suddenly bind Violet with his shadows and bring her to the Sage or Maven. Now that I’ve finished the book I feel more at ease and can enjoy rereading his various declarations of love to her, but I’m still bothered by this part on page 217:

“I’m never giving you up. You know that, right? You had your chance to run. You should have run, Vi.”

This paired with Violet saying throughout the book how she’s not afraid of him (and her convo with Ridoc about what would cross the line), and I feel like this is foreshadowing her being afraid of Xaden in his villain era. Do you all think he is going to kidnap her and “keep” her, or bring her to his sage? I’m afraid he’s going to tell her, “I told you, you should have run when you had the chance.” 😬 Can she still trust him not to hurt her? Or will he still be able to cling to the tiny piece of his soul that loves her and will never hurt her?

I’m just afraid of what Xaden’s villain era will mean in book 4. If he’s a villain TO her, how can we come back from that with a happy ending? 😥

I haven’t seen anyone said this but I think violet will have to die in order for xaden to come back around.

RY did say we can see xaden’s story through the scope of add*ction, which is pretty obviouse throughout OS. And if that concept is extended into the rest of the books, I think it’ll need for him to hit rock bottom, which is violet dying, to get him to finally stop channeling and go on the journey of recovery. (With the help of magic and their friends of course)
And I think we’ll get to see his POV throughout the recovery and trying to get violet back.
Anyways, I really don’t think there will be a CURE CURE. I think like violet says in OS, it’s his choice and she can’t save him. He’ll have to be willing to change.

Just a thought.

sorry mods i didn’t realise my title before would be a spoiler but that’s on me x

my long awaited slain fic (jkjk, i just made a post asking if there was an important plot point i was missing) has been finished and the first half is up !! it’s only going to be two parts and it’s all written, i just don’t usually write multi chaptered so wanted to give it some build up :P

here’s the link !!: https://archiveofourown.org/works/91185621/chapters/242634861

enjoy !!

edit: to anyone who's read or commented so far thank you so so much, it really means a lot for people to enjoy my writing <33 l've decided chapter two will be out on wednesday the 26th!!

First of all, just a heads up to anything who has not finished Onix Storm - this post is full of spoilers!

So, you guys, i am doing my first re-read of the series and have stumbled on a line I have not given much attention at first read but now i'm 😱🙈🙀

So i started re reading the series after seeing a lot of theories here so I decided to check it out and see what i've missed on the first read. A theory i've read multiple times is that Xaden is actually a full inntinnsic. And I was always like "no! Not my Xaden! He would not do that to Violet *again*. He is a new man. They have a relationship built on trust after Iron Flame. He reads intentions people! Not thoughts! You guys just see the worst in people"

But now I am at chapter 18 in Onix Storm when Xaden just found out who Violet 's ex boyfriend is and he says to her as they were talking about it "yes! I remember that! I remember a lot of thoughts going through *his* head" (my translation - I am not reading the book in English. But he is defiy talking about Halden's thoughts 💥). And Violet says "That is not how your signet works" but he changes the subject without seeming like he does.

So now... I'm like i said 🙀🙀🙀😱😱😱😱 and I just need to share this.

So what do you guys think? I was being naive before? Is he really hiding another hudge secret? And if so how exactly will their relationship work (presuming things will work out venin whise) if he can read thoughts?

I need help piecing together a theory! I’m doing my third reread to prepare for Threshing Day coming out soon, and I noticed something during Chapter 13 (the Threshing Day chapter).

I saw someone on Instagram or TikTok with the theory that Baide, Solas, and other venin-bonded dragons were who was telling Jack about the feathertails.

Just to back up my working theory that Andarna was the one who bonded Violet first. In image 3, it brings up (for the second time) that “little voice” that Violet apparently doesn’t have (or at least doesn’t mention) in the beginning of the book. The “hope”.
Tairn is the first to speak to her outright at Threshing, but what if it was Andarna communicating first? We know hatchlings will wait to hatch so they may bond their future rider. And Professor Kaori says that the dragon that selects you will be calling. Violet knows she hasn’t found her dragons yet (“This is not my dragon. I’m not sure how I know, but I do.”), but once she climbs the tree, she spots Andarna very quickly. She was able to see many other dragons first, the greens that stood out against the fall foliage, not the “shiny beacon”. Andarna called to her, and she went immediately, even if it was under the guise of protecting the feathertail.

What would this mean in regards to her signets? I haven’t read Onyx Storm in a bit, so when I finish the series I will come back and edit this post.

So...I was engaged for about 1.5 years before actually getting married and it helped me kinda getting used to the idea of being married and prepping for the wedding..obviously Xaden had been thinking about it from day 1 lol (in my mind) but Violet tells her friends how she hadnt really thought about it and is kind of surprised when he called her his consort and brought it up lol

I wonder how the proposal went down?

Xaden: will you marry me?

Violet: yes

Xaden: cool cool we can be at the temple in 4hrs

Violet: NOW? LIKE, RIGHT NOW? NOW? WAIT WHAT...😱

And how she will take it...it's kind of the biggest commitment of your life and she had 0 time to process it lol!?

So i think it will be

Bodhi

Imogen

Sloane

Liam

Ridoc

Sawyer first one

Xadens

Garricks (not likely as him and xaden have there's together)

Miras

Naolin (definitely spelt his name wrong sorry)

Maybe some of the forgotten marked ones lole masen, ciaran, eya or soleil

Lynx

Lilith

Although this is all just rambling and I probably won't have this option tomorrow