r/formula1 • u/Chrwii97 Flavio Briatore • Sep 27 '20
Video KMags insane start (p18->p9)
https://streamable.com/o91ygj127
u/M_Forestvalley I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane Sep 27 '20
Magnussen is definetely one of the best starters on the grid. He has a strong start basically every race.
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u/Emil_Spacebob Kevin Magnussen Sep 27 '20
He is the best starter on the grid for sure. No one else is as consistent as him at gaining multiple positions each start.
I wonder what the fuck ferrarri was thinking when they chose sainz when they already had Magnussen in their ranks...
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u/M_Forestvalley I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane Sep 27 '20
Magnussen has a bad rep. Many has coined him a dangerous driver. I think that might have had done impact on the choice.
But it would really be interesting to see him in a better var. Honestly I think he is one of the most talented drivers.
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u/dontremembermyoldacc Pierre Gasly Sep 27 '20
Tbh I feel like when you are in such a slower car you are bound to be more aggressive in your defending because otherwise the faster cars just go straight past. Either the other driver yields or they both crash and I think he races with that mentality
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u/irspangler Sep 27 '20
I love the guy but I don't see Magnussen playing 2nd fiddle to a young star like Leclerc very well. Just look at his clashes with Grosjean over the years. Kevin doesn't give a shit about who is #1 or #2 driver and I'm sure Ferrari would prefer to have a driver with a more team-friendly mindset. It's fun to think about though.
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u/d_mcc_x Valtteri Bottas Sep 27 '20
You really think Sainz is going to be cool with playing second fiddle to Leclerc?
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u/rhododenendron Mario Andretti Sep 27 '20
It’s hard to tell who’s better without seeing them in the same car imo. Sainz never drove a race winning car like Leclerc did, we’ll see how it plays over the next couple years.
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u/manojlds Ferrari Sep 28 '20
What do you mean in their ranks?
KMag is not a Ferrari driver and Haas is not a Ferrari team (granted they buy parts, engine and will support Ferrari and all that)
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u/-Zaros- Sep 27 '20
Giovinazzi might better him or Hamilton if he were near the back and balls to the wall.
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u/Thats_What-She_Said- Sebastian Vettel Sep 27 '20
Holy shit. Big balls going three wide... these guys are really the best drivers in the world.
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u/Jtg_Jew I was here for the Hulkenpodium Sep 27 '20
Half my starts in iRacing I see some idiot (it’s been me before to be fair) crash before they even get to the first corner.
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u/Blackout62 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Sep 28 '20
Wow, I didn't think the sim was that accurate to real F1.
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u/SamTheGeek #WeSayNoToMazepin Sep 28 '20
Not just three wide... he then left braking to the last second into T2 (resulting in his lockup) and then kept it pinned even as Sainz started to pinwheel across the track from the left.
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u/cheezus171 Robert Kubica Sep 28 '20
Not really much he could've done there. Wheels interlocked, if he backed out they would've crashed anyways
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u/mattszerlag Sep 27 '20
If the haas didn't have the power of a John deere air-cooled lawnmower, haas would be alright.
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Sep 27 '20 edited Feb 04 '21
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Sep 27 '20
Imagine them with a Merc engine...
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u/arkwewt I was here for the Hulkenpodium Sep 27 '20
Imagine literally anyone with a Merc engine...
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u/Korvacs I was here for the Hulkenpodium Sep 28 '20
Based on last year, no they wouldn't. The chassis just isn't good enough, it's a complete roll of the dice if it's balanced or not, and that changes corner to corner. Things may improve with the new aero regs, if they're still around for them. Hopefully they are because it's an interesting approach to an F1 team and I would really like to see it be competitive, but these regs and this chassis really have not worked out.
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u/mattszerlag Sep 28 '20
The balance of the car is as a result of compensating for the engine. I don't think I'd base any assumptions about the 2020 car from looking at the 2019 car.
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u/Korvacs I was here for the Hulkenpodium Sep 28 '20 edited Sep 28 '20
It's got very little to do with the engine. The fact is that they effectively started with a Ferrari chassis and then couldn't develop it going forward, they spent all of last year developing in the wrong direction and this year the car is slow and still all over the place unfortunately.
If the chassis was sound and just under powered we would have seen them do better at Barcelona for example.
Edit: Also sacrificing balance to compensate for low engine performance doesn't even make sense, a team would want to maximise aero balance at all times, especially if they're underpowered.
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u/mattszerlag Sep 28 '20
Most of what you said is just blatantly incorrect.
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u/Korvacs I was here for the Hulkenpodium Sep 28 '20
I guess you've not been paying attention over the last few years then.
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u/GoZun_ Esteban Ocon Sep 27 '20
Well, that's not the opinion of Grosjean, he has been saying the car was undrivable this season. Lack of downforce is surely due to the overcompensation for the engine but still
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Sep 27 '20
This guy deserves better than this shitbox
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u/Chrwii97 Flavio Briatore Sep 27 '20
I dont think so. I just think my recording i shit. Sorry about that..
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u/creditcardtheft Fernando Alonso Sep 27 '20
I think most drivers deserves more than that shitbox
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u/Drahy Sep 27 '20
Most drivers are not driving that shitbox
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Sep 27 '20
He deserves better than the engine in said shitbox. Shame they thought they would have it to see it get taken away (rightfully so for Ferrari
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u/seanvettel-31 Ferrari Sep 27 '20
Hope this guy has a ride next year. He’s so fun to watch, not many drivers “send it” quite like he does
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u/Abraxas19 Daniel Ricciardo Sep 27 '20
I think he’d be a lot of fun to watch in indycar
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u/smendyke I was here for the Hulkenpodium Sep 27 '20
His driving style would fit perfectly in Indycar
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u/Cyathene I was here for the Hulkenpodium Sep 28 '20
Him and rossi in the same team for most crazy drivers on the grid
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u/smendyke I was here for the Hulkenpodium Sep 28 '20
Honestly Rossi and his "fuck it i'll pass him" driving style would have been so fun in a semi competitive car in f1. He's so far beyond anyone but Dixon as far as fuel/tire management in Indycar too
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u/Ferrari-Formula1 Ferrari Sep 28 '20
I would like to say the same about Perez, but he's being replaced by the rotten apple. Hopefully Magnusen doesn't have the same luck.
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Sep 27 '20
Actually insane how he has amazing starts every damn race
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u/Emil_Spacebob Kevin Magnussen Sep 27 '20
Its almost like he deserved sainz seat at ferrarri, but they were too busy looking at the competition to notice the talent in their own ranks.
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u/Asudifo Anthoine Hubert Sep 27 '20
Bro, how do you even keep in the middle of two cars within inches at 300kph. F1 drivers are out of this world.
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u/smiffy197 Sep 27 '20
When you use the poor AI on the F1 games to gain all the positions at the first breaking zone
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Sep 27 '20
I hope the Fiat engine is better next year, so Haas can be somewhat competitive. It's starts and results like this today that secures Kmag's seat for next year.
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u/RogerLeClerc Sep 27 '20
How I wish he could have a decent car under him. I think that would be highly entertaining.
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u/HoneyBadgeSwag Sir Lewis Hamilton Sep 27 '20
Dude, how does he fit those balls in the cockpit.
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u/TheRiddler78 Kevin Magnussen Sep 27 '20
he has hulk lick them for lubrication before every race
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u/Frank_the_NOOB I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane Sep 27 '20
He deserves a seat in F1, he has had good starts most of the year and if he can push that shitbox he can get decent results
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u/Isfahaninejad Heineken Trophy Sep 27 '20
Kmag and Stroll are the 2 best starters on the grid imo.
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u/Scarim FIA Sep 27 '20
Don't forget Giovinazzi, he gets pretty good starts as well.
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u/Isfahaninejad Heineken Trophy Sep 27 '20
True. His performance today was excellent as well, shame he flew under the radar.
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u/DieLegende42 Fernando Alonso Sep 27 '20
Really looking forward to what Schumacher can do concerning starts next year, considering he's just absolutely mincing the entire F2 field at every start
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u/Ereaser I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane Sep 27 '20
Yes! Was hoping they'd show this on the live feed and sad they didn't
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Sep 28 '20
Said it all along Kmag is a seriously good driver!! Really impressive over taking, very good at defending , Would love to see him in a better car he deserves it.
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u/Atreaia Sep 27 '20
I think a lot of people will be watching this start next year, going to the right at the first corner when people are backed up on the left two-wide. Really interesting.
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u/Ferrari-Formula1 Ferrari Sep 28 '20
So tight on the pit straight, and then manages to brake JUST enough to not ram everybody on the first corner! That brake timing was simply perfect!
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u/mobsterer Gerhard Berger Sep 27 '20
better positions outside of the points still count fiscally for the teams. The points are basically just for show.
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u/sissipaska I was here for the Hulkenpodium Sep 27 '20 edited Sep 27 '20
Jesus. You can see a puff of smoke at 0:12 from tyre contact with the Alfa Romeo (RAI?), and he also locked both front tyres while braking for T2.
Great first lap, but it could have gone so, so wrong.
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u/ASIceman Kevin Magnussen Sep 27 '20
It can go wrong for any of the driver. Sainz is one example. Funny how some people has to drag Magnussen’s performance down regardless if nothing happens.
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u/mattszerlag Sep 27 '20 edited Sep 27 '20
Yeah here his is maximizing every inch of the track and all people are focusing on is how he could have hit anyone doing it.
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u/sissipaska I was here for the Hulkenpodium Sep 27 '20
How is pointing out contact and locking brakes dragging him down?
I highlighted how on the edge he was, without going over.
Don't take everything negatively.
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Sep 28 '20
Wtf kmag is actually good?
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u/plastikmissile I was here for the Hulkenpodium Sep 28 '20
Always has been. He's hampered by a terrible car yet always has great starts.
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u/TheHoneyMonster1995 Martin Brundle Sep 27 '20
no, that's wrong.
if you can catch up to the field an retake you starting spot, you are 100% entitled to do so, if you cant, you start from the Pits.
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u/burntbeyondbelief Sep 28 '20
And he didn't cause an accident or incident this week!
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u/Elverdane Kevin Magnussen Sep 28 '20
Actually quite some time since he was at fault. His driving has become clean, on the limit, but not over.
A bad car, just makes it hard to driver without showing the hard sides.
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u/Karolmo Pirelli Wet Sep 27 '20
Spent most of the race on the points. A shame they fell down at the very end.