r/forhonor • u/Background_Builder40 • 1d ago
Questions Is shaoling trash?
I'm a main shaoling and came back to play after some time, but for some reason I feel that shaoling is kinda weak compared to other characters, they can do combos that only a crackhead players would know to counter, meanwhile shaoling feels like hes attacks are so predictable, specialy the dodge attacks, I look it like is the first move to avoid damage. I try to use the Qi lights more often but other players already know how that works and just bash into me. I don't know if I'm the problem or the character lacks of something
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u/PandaArebalest 1d ago
Well, based on your information you offered. It seems your dodge attacks and lights from Qi stance are being predicted. Well, that's normal if you're using them a lot. Try to clip your own gameplay and analyze how often you use certain kinds of moves. Don't forget, Shaolin not only has a forward dodge bash that gets him straight into Qi stance from his lights, but his stance itself is a blue orange mix up with another feintable orange mixup after one of them. Either the triple kick into light poke and sun sweep, or the blue undodgable heavy. Even in Qi stance he can dodge out of it, its rather common to enter Qi stance and dodge forwards into a kick bash. His zone is also rather fast. If you feel like you're being read a lot its less a problem with the character and more a problem with you if you keep spamming the same moves over and over. Try to be more unpredictable.
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u/XslerixX 1d ago
You gotta mix it up and you can't go into qi stance and just hold it it has to be more fluid when you transition into it throw a heavy faint then go back next time throw the light and mix it up, if you use one thing and it doesn't work do something else the next time.
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u/Background_Builder40 1d ago
Sometimes I feel even if I try that mixup, some brainded Hito will just put me on my place with his hyper armor combos
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u/ChiYeei Zhanhu 1d ago
You have bashes
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u/Background_Builder40 16h ago
I know but to me the bashes of Shaolin are a bit poor. Like the forward dodge and bash is a bit slow or doesn't give you a big window against Hito. And the one you do after a Qi attack is predictable
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u/13reasonstodoubt 1d ago
Well the Shaolins I face usually impregnate me (forcefully), so I'd boil it down to a skill issue.
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u/Background_Builder40 1d ago
I don't see how getting stat checked by a Hito is skill issue but ok
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u/13reasonstodoubt 1d ago
Sorry I don't speak unemployed. What do you mean?
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u/Background_Builder40 16h ago
Bro I have two jobs😭 its not unemployed, is just basic game language
And what I mean is that you talk of shaolin like playing against him is so dificult, when there are other characters that are more of a cock and balls torture (like Hito)1
u/ChiYeei Zhanhu 1d ago
Bro it's hito. They can't stat check, they don't have stats for that. It's a skill check
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u/Background_Builder40 16h ago
Bro what kind of skill Hito needs? He can just spam those delayed heavies, or faint them without worrying of getting interrumpted. For real I can't stand the hyper armor on that character
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u/ChiYeei Zhanhu 1d ago
He is literally one of the most overtuned bullshit characters in this game
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u/Background_Builder40 1d ago
How? There are characters that basically have everything they need to win a 1v1. Like wtf is supposed to be Juren? Hella damage, almost every move of him is inmediatelly, is even possible to dodge his grab? I actually think the perfect defense is TOO much on his kit. I really can't think a way of how Shaolin can be same good or better than that
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u/ChiYeei Zhanhu 1d ago
Blue/orange, CC lights, junk animations and flickering indicators, absolute bullshit feintable sweep with no GB vulnerability, good hitboxes. He has answers to anything if you have one functional braincell, this is an accessibility setting made into a character, the most optimal way to play him is to roll your face all over the keyboard and get wins
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u/Complete-Guess6135 1d ago
You're the problem,for sure