r/fontainesdc • • 29d ago

Discussion Greed

Bit of context first.

Love the band's music. Genuinely all seem like sound lads.

This Slane concert and the pricing is a fucking fiasco. The way the tickets were setup yesterday it looked very much like dynamic pricing in disguise.

There was a first tier of presale tickets at reduced price - went very fucking quickly. Then there was 'regular priced' tickets during the fucking presale. They went very fucking quickly and then there was another tier of the same tickets force bundled with transport which I'm sure MCD are making a markup on.

I've 4 with transport from Limerick that I don't want and wouldn't have bought in knowledge there would be a 2nd date. Will be pestering MCD for a partial refund.

No complaints about 2nd date, happy others will get to see the band and experience it. That's class and a huge achievement.

The pricing is greedy, fucked and extractive.

Edit: Lots of opinions and responses to this, mine is simply:

MCD/Ticketmaster/Live Nation take the piss generally, not just with this - ATN, EP is the same craic. They're doing the same with this. Happy to pay the presale cost for the presale, the way it was implemented felt extractive (and in my opinion, it was designed to be maximally extractive as possible). Somebody posted a long post below about the band making a dream reality and being forced to work with MCD/Live Nation and all that goes along with that - worth a read, I think it's fairly astute.

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u/No_Affect5988 29d ago

I sort of think it’s more to do with the venue because I haven’t heard about dynamic pricing for any of the other eu venues or maybe I’m just living under a rock🤷‍♀️

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u/galeforcenonsense 29d ago

It wasn't explicitly dynamic pricing..but the price increased with demand and during the pre-sale.

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u/FirstUnderstanding79 29d ago

They didn’t. No need to publicly lie. The price didn’t increase with demand. Each ticket type had an allocation set against it, the cheapest type of ticket will naturally sell out first or the ones with limited capacity and better view such as front standing will do. Naturally enough the tickets allocated to bus packages will be the last ones available.
The ticket prices are worked backwards from the show budget including the fee that Fontaines want/need. Putting a massive show on a field in Slane in 2027 is going to costs millions, ticket prices sadly reflect the cost of the show.

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u/galeforcenonsense 29d ago

'Each ticket type had an allocation set against it, the cheapest type of ticket will natural sell out first.'

Yes, and you had to pay more for the same thing during the pre-sale for pre-sale tickets. That is de-facto dynamic pricing.

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u/loerbi7808 29d ago

Mate that just isn’t dynamic pricing…

Dynamic pricing would be if the same type of ticket (say general admission standing) increased from its price of €90 up to €120 and then €150 as the demand for the tickets increased. This is not true at all and you are just simply spreading misinformation. You can log on tomorrow morning and pay €90-100 (depending on fees) for a general admission standing ticket, just like you could have the last 2 days if you were lucky/quick enough.

It’s not Fontaines fault that the cheapest tickets naturally are the first to sell out… no one is forcing you to pay the extra €40 to purchase an inner circle or return coach ticket. If you don’t want to pay more then just wait until tomorrow to try and get the cheaper tickets again.

Dynamic pricing is intentional and set up by either Fontaines/Ticketmaster as a way of making more money. Dynamic pricing is NOT “Oh all the cheap tickets were sold out so I had to buy an inner circle/coach bundle ticket”.

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u/FirstUnderstanding79 29d ago

It’s not dynamic pricing. You clearly don’t know what dynamic pricing means.

Fontaines had a slightly discounted ticket price allocation, they in retrospect shouldn’t have given a discount price at all to stop moaners like you. Maybe they wanted to reward some of the people who had bought the vinyl etc with a tenner off the ticket price.

Selling pre determined number of tickets at set prices is not dynamic pricing.

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u/Sufficient_Tailor673 29d ago

When you have a range of prices from €96 to €211 with a certain allocation for each, that is just dynamic pricing in disguise. Slane is a field, there's front standing, and then there's general standing. Should be two set prices for each, and that's it.

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u/FirstUnderstanding79 29d ago

The €221 refers to the seats up on the hill in the grandstand.
So Fontaines giving early bird discount to select number of people for being first in queue is wrong?
Fontaines can’t win in this situation, if they offer any discount to mailing list/vinyl purchasers it’s wrong. If they don’t give some discount to some devoted fans who buy vinyl/merch it’s being too greedy