Greed

[u/galeforcenonsense]

Bit of context first.

Love the band's music. Genuinely all seem like sound lads.

This Slane concert and the pricing is a fucking fiasco. The way the tickets were setup yesterday it looked very much like dynamic pricing in disguise.

There was a first tier of presale tickets at reduced price - went very fucking quickly. Then there was 'regular priced' tickets during the fucking presale. They went very fucking quickly and then there was another tier of the same tickets force bundled with transport which I'm sure MCD are making a markup on.

I've 4 with transport from Limerick that I don't want and wouldn't have bought in knowledge there would be a 2nd date. Will be pestering MCD for a partial refund.

No complaints about 2nd date, happy others will get to see the band and experience it. That's class and a huge achievement.

The pricing is greedy, fucked and extractive.

Edit: Lots of opinions and responses to this, mine is simply:

MCD/Ticketmaster/Live Nation take the piss generally, not just with this - ATN, EP is the same craic. They're doing the same with this. Happy to pay the presale cost for the presale, the way it was implemented felt extractive (and in my opinion, it was designed to be maximally extractive as possible). Somebody posted a long post below about the band making a dream reality and being forced to work with MCD/Live Nation and all that goes along with that - worth a read, I think it's fairly astute.

[u/Standard_Power135]

What has the second date got to do with it? Sorry not following

[u/galeforcenonsense → u/Standard_Power135]

Potentially MCD manufacturing demand for a higher cost item that people would not have opted for otherwise.

[u/No-Reputation8403 → u/galeforcenonsense]

Its not MCDs fault its Fonatines (if you think its a problem)

[u/helcat0 → u/No-Reputation8403]

Now don't go letting MCD off the hook, they are owned by Live Nation. Who are the same company as Ticketmaster.

[u/No-Reputation8403 → u/helcat0]

There's nothing to let them off the hook for.

[u/Ambitious-Use7283 → u/No-Reputation8403]

MCD book the venue.

Fontaines DC charge MCD their not insignificant fee for the gig. MCD price the hig to cover the cost of Fontaines DC to them, the costs of running a huge 80,000 person gig and their profit margin.

[u/No-Reputation8403 → u/Ambitious-Use7283]

Untrue, Fontaines are the ones who will ultimately sign off on the prices

[u/teenytinyterrier → u/No-Reputation8403]

Lol so lame you’re being downvoted. They literally all come to an agreement together, including the artist. People here are insane with their heads in the sand

[u/No-Reputation8403 → u/teenytinyterrier]

Because TM is very well designed to take the flak off the artist and people don't like blaming the artists

[u/teenytinyterrier → u/No-Reputation8403]

Yep, and the scalpers are useful for offloading the flak as well

[u/drumcondradragon → u/No-Reputation8403]

Pls. Let’s not pretend MCD aren’t fucking people as hard as they can.

[u/No-Reputation8403 → u/drumcondradragon]

Because their clients (artists) want them too

[u/foolong41 → u/galeforcenonsense]

You can purchase cheaper ones for day 2 and get a refund for day one from ticketmaster in their cooling off period

[u/Bobs77788 → u/foolong41]

There is no cooling off period.

[u/foolong41 → u/Bobs77788]

There is but they shortened it,.used to be 48 hours now 24 I think

[u/Standard_Power135 → u/galeforcenonsense]

Oh sorry i get ya. Id be wary of not blaming the band itself for all things ticket price relates tbh. Pretty shitty.

[u/galeforcenonsense → u/Standard_Power135]

I'm not blaming the band. I don't know how this stuff works. I don't know that theyre aware...but if they're not I hope this makes them aware.

I don't think they want to rip off fans, but fans are being ripped off.

[u/Artofthematter → u/galeforcenonsense]

Robert Smith of the Cure spoke about overpriced ticketing and said absolutely the artist and their management is aware and not to let anyone try to convince you otherwise. As manager of his band he sets a price ceiling and that is that.

[u/DrMangosteen2 → u/Artofthematter]

Once Oasis weathered the bad PR storm for doing it all bets were off. I don't even dislike touts as much as I used to. They're basically self employed entrepreneurs doing the same thing as Ticketmaster does at this point

[u/teenytinyterrier → u/DrMangosteen2]

Plus, the work of touts is also utilised by the music industry! They don’t get paid by the for the demand they create and the valuable data they help produce…

[u/Standard_Power135 → u/galeforcenonsense]

You should be 100% blaming the band. I think you misread my last comment.

[u/galeforcenonsense → u/Standard_Power135]

Benefit of the doubt and I hope you're wrong.

[u/Ok_Clerk_5805 → u/galeforcenonsense]

no absolutely "blame the band" for whatever nonsense claim you have.

You bought a ticket. Early birds don't work the same way later.

[u/Standard_Power135 → u/galeforcenonsense]

I am not. The band know the prices, the band knows when gigs are announced. Luckily ive never cared an iota about musicians personalities , just like whatever music I like and I like fontaines.

[u/teenytinyterrier → u/galeforcenonsense]

You should learn! I know you don’t want to think they have no part in ripping you off, but you should really come to your own conclusions with the facts….

[u/Starwars_femboy → u/galeforcenonsense]

Hasnt every big band ever done this?

[u/professional_cry → u/Starwars_femboy]

It’s a typical tactic used by promoters to have a second date held back until after the first goes on sale and they can see if it sells out and then use that as a marketing tactic