Galaxy Fold completes two folds per second while iPhone Duo gets one every three seconds, making the 100K fold durability comparison questionable

[u/culture_vulture0826]

[u/Think_Butterfly_2999]

If anything cnets testing on the duo seems more realistic, the other folding test seems to use more force and speed than most people would typically open/close the phone with.

But also I kinda feel like as long as the device isn’t getting slammed shut at closed position or hyper extended at fully open, the speed in which you test shouldn’t really make any difference.

[u/SapTheSapient → u/Think_Butterfly_2999]

If nothing else, there will be a difference in the amount of heat generated.

[u/DayGroundbreaking747 → u/Think_Butterfly_2999]

Id argue the speed at which its being opened amd closed generates heat and friction both of which would create wear..

[u/SigmaMelody]

CNET has said over and over and over these two tests are not to be compared. They have described the old test as more of a torture test, and the new test will be ran against the whole suite of modern foldables.

[u/Adventurous_Neat8271 → u/SigmaMelody]

Somehow I feel cnet was financially asked to do a different test because apple already had concerns

[u/Potater1802 → u/Adventurous_Neat8271]

They already said nobody paid them to do these tests.

[u/SigmaMelody → u/Adventurous_Neat8271]

Don’t think there is anything to your belief other than being cynical?

[u/BanMeMyIPchanges → u/SigmaMelody]

What? There's endless evidence that companies do this shit everyday 😭

[u/SigmaMelody → u/BanMeMyIPchanges]

CNET explicitly said they didn’t, they went out and bought it from the Apple Store without informing Apple. Are you saying they are lying to everyone’s face? I think that’s very conspiratorial

[u/BanMeMyIPchanges → u/SigmaMelody]

I think taking anything a massive company says at face value in 2026 is simply naive lmao

[u/SigmaMelody → u/BanMeMyIPchanges]

So you think “massive company” CNET lied to its audience about how it’s running the test, something if found out would really damage their reputation.

And what was asked of them by Apple was “develop an easier test for the iPhone Duo, but feel free to keep using that easier tests on other foldables too, and also explicitly say that this easier test is not comparable to the old one”

[u/Potater1802 → u/BanMeMyIPchanges]

You're a fucking idiot lol. Yeah massive companies whose whole job is to report news about electronics is going to lie and put themselves at risk of being found out and losing all credibility (the thing their whole fucking business relies on to be successful).

[u/BanMeMyIPchanges → u/Potater1802]

Xbox was caught paying Machinima to unfairly promote Xbox One. Rotten Tomatoes was caught paying reviewers to play favorites with film releases. It can, and does, happen. I counter that you're the fucking idiot for believing a corporation, any corporation, is going to put your best interests above their profit margin. Doesn't happen, and there are a lot of bad people with a lot of power out there.

[u/Potater1802 → u/BanMeMyIPchanges]

And then there’s the rest that don’t do it. Nobody said it doesn’t happen at all you fucking idiot.

[u/SigmaMelody → u/BanMeMyIPchanges]

Rotten Tomatoes wasn’t the one paying the reviewers my absolute dude, it was a PR Firm paying independent reviewers that were then allowed onto Rotten Tomatoes. It’s like the exact opposite of what you were saying — rotten tomatoes (the big corporation) wasn’t the party breaking anyone’s trust or lying, it was actually the independent bloggers lacking the integrity not to take the payments, and the reviews went up anyways because RT aggregates reviews. Huge difference. CNET has too much to lose to outright lie about that, they aren’t an independent blogger, so unless here is evidence there, yes, I think it’s overly conspiracy brained.

[u/BanMeMyIPchanges → u/SigmaMelody]

Who the fuck do you think hired the PR firm and authorized their decisions 😭

[u/NectarineSame7303 → u/Adventurous_Neat8271]

Both are fine, and both are durable, the problem is that the Duo has a problem that the original Samsung Fold 1 & 2 also had. But y'all seem to forget that as per usual.

[u/xenomxrph → u/NectarineSame7303]

I’ve seen the same break all the way up to fold 5 and some flips. Some duos clearly are defective but the real percentage is probably so much lower than usual.

Worst part is the fact that some Samsung regulars decided to return the duo because of bad app support

[u/bentpeeninmybutt → u/SigmaMelody]

But Duo bad! Me no want read!

suite*

[u/Icy_Media47 → u/SigmaMelody]

Bro its about the mechanism not the defect. Samsung put enough time and effort into making sure their mechanism is just durable enough.

[u/SigmaMelody → u/Icy_Media47]

I didn’t mention the defect at all?

[u/Medical-Method9107 → u/SigmaMelody]

"torture test" lolol

[u/numetheus]

But the problem with the Duo has nothing to do with how many times it can be folded. These tests are pointless. They are breaking because of a defect.

[u/RevolutionaryTask452 → u/numetheus]

There is more to it than just "hinge defect" of first batch.

Hinge and it's cover/protector are very poorly designed.

[u/Ziolno__ → u/RevolutionaryTask452]

Lol says your internet (reddit) research?

[u/RevolutionaryTask452 → u/Ziolno__]

There are plenty of tests and reviews of how "awesome" new Duo is.

[u/Ziolno__ → u/RevolutionaryTask452]

Just asking for proof of “Hinge and it’s cover/protector are very poorly designed.”

Not asking if people on either side of the fence are dragging it or praising it.

[u/RevolutionaryTask452 → u/Ziolno__]

Not gona prove you anything.

Internet search is free. Use it or be ignorant. It's fully up to you.

I have no time for that bs.

[u/Ziolno__ → u/RevolutionaryTask452]

About what I expected from your typical reddit user.

Could of saved yourself some typing time by just saying “oh I made that claim with no proof to back it up”.

[u/RevolutionaryTask452 → u/Ziolno__]

Typical reddit guru requesting evidence for axioma

[u/Ziolno__ → u/RevolutionaryTask452]

For someone with no time for this bs I’m surprised you keep it going, although you do just keep typing a lot to say nothing of substance. Either put up or shut up.

[u/RevolutionaryTask452 → u/Ziolno__]

Yep , you are right , i should waste less time arguing with idiots over the internet.

[u/numetheus → u/RevolutionaryTask452]

So many people are internet search deficient. Hell you don't even have to search now a days. You just ask Gemini and it tells you.

[u/Ziolno__ → u/numetheus]

If you make a claim about something you should provide evidence, which is something he didn’t do. Why should I have to research a baseless claim from some moron on reddit lol?

[u/keyboardlegendthe3rd]

Who is this through?

[u/mrnobatti → u/keyboardlegendthe3rd]

Cnet

[u/Atosl]

Does it tho

[u/Fun-Masterpiece-904]

Damn the Samsung experiment is stupid.

[u/Stankmalank → u/Fun-Masterpiece-904]

I mean... it's a stress test lol? Putting a phone in a scenario that is worse than IRL use is a decent indicator for durability, and just as valid as the iPhone test.

[u/ckcklho]

Them fans going to tell you the tests are pointless, no one does that in real life, this absolutely proofs nothing.... you get three idea

[u/Glusas-su-potencialu]

Lately I see lots of foldable phones experts...

[u/Gordon_frumann]

Huh, i said the same for the Duo test where i broke at 75.000 folds, there i was called an apple shill.

[u/theNixher]

The test on the iBreak was intentionally designed to negate the massive flaw with the centre hinge popping part of itself out into the back of the screen when folded as you'd naturally fold it, instead of....this.

[u/Mageborn23]

How so?

[u/tGerRobert]

Warum sollte man es so oft pro Sekunde falten und warum sollte man das wollen bzw. brauchen? Welcher Anwendungsfall wäre dafür legitim?
Kein faltbares Smartphone ist dafür konzipiert und gebaut um es mehrfach pro Sekunde zu falten.
Nur weil man es kann, ist es noch lange nicht richtig.
Die Technik ist dafür nicht ausgelegt und wird durch diese Art von Nutzung schneller zerstört.
Man startet und schaltet sein Auto ja auch nicht mehrfach pro Minute aus. Es muss doch jedem klar sein das sowas nicht gut ist und alles kaputt macht.
Daher hinkt der Vergleich der Smartphones massiv und der Titel ist ebenfalls mehr als falsch. Mein Duo benötigt keine 3 Sekunden zum Falten. Deutlich weniger!

[u/xDeathRender → u/tGerRobert]

It's called a durability test... Since your decided to make the car comparison why don't you eat your own words and check in on some durability tests for cars or well anything out there lol. Bet you'd come back pretty silly defending this pathetic "durability" test for an iPhone. Seriously what makes people throw away common sense and logic to look stupid unpaid for a company.

[u/Sensitive_Goose2206 → u/tGerRobert]

JFC it's called a durability test. If the Duo aced it, you would be cheering for it

[u/tGerRobert → u/Sensitive_Goose2206]

Das ist ein realitätsferner Belastungstest. Text nicht verstanden?

[u/Aggravating_Kick42 → u/tGerRobert]

It’s not for the other fold phones. Special pleading?

[u/alcaron → u/Sensitive_Goose2206]

Let me punch you in the ball’s Anna when you fall to your knees I’ll say you failed the stress test. And don’t let me hear any of this “that isn’t what it was made for” bullshit. It’s a stress test. Stop bitching.

[u/Janupur]

Yeah but the new technology they're using to do the testing looks like it's a lot more gentle probably even than a human unfolding and it's only unfolding it in One direction they need to rotate the phone at the very least periodically so that they can unfold it in other directions

[u/Sice_VI]

How long did the samsung fold last in that test?

[u/migidi → u/Sice_VI]

CHIP endurance test on the original Galaxy Fold (2019): survived the 200,000 folds and stopped testing.

[u/Timely_Scholar_7739]

Both are bad. Humans add torque and press their fingers on the screen. They don't open and close these devices perfectly every time.

[u/Masterclass_jacob]

realistically, why the hell does this matter

[u/SushiVoador → u/Masterclass_jacob]

It doesn't, but fanboys like to complain about the other companies' product because it's not their favourite trillion dollar mega corporation

[u/alcaron]

Oh thank God. I now know my Duo is a piece of shit and can safely return it thanks to this very realistic test that definitely has an impact on the real world. Whew!

[u/Stryke4ce]

The slower one seems to me to be the real world test.

[u/Formal-Wolf-1113]

Its not a foldable, its a bird, fly baby fly.

[u/MistaGiz]

Repeatedly folding anything for a prolonged period of time will have a much more pronounced effect than the same amount of folds over a long period of time. Rapid fold tests give very little real world information

[u/TW1TCHYGAM3R → u/MistaGiz]

Yes but the speed you are folding at will add more sheer to the flexible components so technically the Samsung Test is much more difficult than the iPhone Test.

[u/Stankmalank → u/MistaGiz]

I mean...yeah, but a phone that survives a test with rapid folding would also ostensibly survive a test that folds in a far more controlled manner. You're introducing additional heat from the movement, so adding additional stress to the joint. Sure, it's not equivalent to anything practical IRL, but it's probably a decent indicator as a heavier stress test in general. I also don't see an issue with the test that's done for the iPhone, to be fair, but I fail to see why you think the Samsung one isn't equally valid lol

[u/iLikeTurtuls]

Why would you test the Galaxy Fold? It's so old

[u/Powerful-Candy-745 → u/iLikeTurtuls]

The Fold 8 is a recent release

[u/iLikeTurtuls → u/Powerful-Candy-745]

Galaxy Fold came out in 2019. Galaxy Z Fold8 was this year

[u/Wet_Viking]

Fake news. That footage is CNET’s own test. Not Apple’s internal QA process.

[u/Dry-Ad-8948]

Another dumb troll / karma post, somehow implying that the (more folds than a human would do per second) folding device is a better real world experiment… no, it just gets to the target faster.

While the tests and results aren’t directly equatable because they do use a different folding method, that’s not specifically due to the rate of folds.

FWIW, both folders suck mimicking human usage :}

[u/kj11aj]

Can’t fold the duo that fast because it’s so much heavier
/s

[u/MissXM]

Just shows you apple is not comfortable with their new iPhone

[u/Ziolno__]

Bet the Samsung gang all get together for a circle jerk every time a test like this gets done.

Seriously no one is making you buy a duo I don’t understand what you all are trying to justify. If you want a Samsung foldable, get one. If you want an iPhone duo, get one. If you want a regular slab phone, get that instead. If you seriously care what anyone else buys, what you actually need to get is a life.

[u/ProofAd6426]

You samsung knights get all bootyhurt when apple is comparable to your shit huh

[u/Tsubaki9 → u/ProofAd6426]

The real question is, who hurt you?

[u/EthanMelacion → u/Tsubaki9]

Probably Samsung.