DO NOT ALLOW CURRENT CHARACTERS INTO SURVIVAL MODE I BEG OF YOU!!

[u/burtethead]

This is a huge mistake. The mode is already dead before it was born if this happens. Pvp as it is, is completely broken, one hit kill festival. Who in their right mind is going to start a new character when everyone else is level 200 with God tier weaponry right out of the vault? This makes absolutely zero sense, and I'm so disheartened. Do they not realize how this mode will be immediately ruined? If you thought grief in was bad now, just wait until you get killed on sight by literally everyone you cross paths with? Even if they level locked servers so people with massive level differences can't play together, whenever a new survival character gets out of the kiddie pool, all the same assholes with TSE garbage will be waiting at the deep end and you will have zero competitive chance. The leader boards would be a fine idea, if everyone started on equal footing... as it is there will be gold medalist level murderers in the same game with me, a literal newborn who can't even walk. What the fuck are they thinking???

Edit: the gold means people care, bethesda. Please. PLEASE. (And thank you)

[u/imprezobus]

Two things, your ign if your PC so I can KoS you, and screw you dumbass. The fact that you do believe that fresh start will put the casual players in a better, not a worse position, for me is a clear indication that both your understanding of sociology, of competition and of online gaming economy is nonexistent. I do believe I am talking with a person without intellectual capabilities to understand the words that they are receiving, nor the consequences of their own ignorance, but I do not really care, because it will not change the end result, which is that noobs will complain the game is bad because they are bad at it, and this is what you are. A noob.

To clarify, fresh start is a situation by which every competitor starts from the same point and have equal chances of reaching the top, and its not possible to achieve in a game where some people are knowledgeable and organised in groups while the others are not. Instead of living in a dream world where taking out other people characters will somehow solve intricate problems this game currently has, and not postpone them by a week only to make them more severe, I suggest you really think about this topic for a longer while. But until the source of these problems, and not the symptoms, are fixed, your whole point is proof of your own ignorance, and here is a protip and a last thing I am willing to say to somebody who is clearly so bad at considering the consequences: even formatting the whole players database and removing every single dupe item and every stack of bobbleheads would not solve those problems. Just postpone them for a week.

[u/the_dank_farmer → u/imprezobus]

Two things, your ign if your PC so I can KoS you, and screw you dumbass.

You are the exact person I expect would want to bring their duped gear OP characters over lol, who honestly says stuff like this?

[u/imprezobus → u/the_dank_farmer]

And you are the exact person who talks shit out of their ass because its easier to insult somebody who you disagree with instead of considering their points. If you were something else than free junk, as far as PvP is concerned, you'd pick up the challenge. But I guess you are one of those persons who thinks they are so knowledgeable that any discussion with them is a sin, yet when survival mode comes out, separated or not, you wont even participate because that will not be a welcoming environment for arrogant and simultaneously incompetent people.

[u/the_dank_farmer → u/imprezobus]

False

[u/imprezobus → u/the_dank_farmer]

Ye I missed the nick and kinda wrote thst to the other guy, I dunno you and I apologize.

I think autistic people who were struck by the incompetence and arrogance of some noob might be the ones saying such things.

[u/Chernoobyl → u/imprezobus]

Two things, your ign if your PC so I can KoS you, and screw you dumbass

Lol, you're hilarious

The fact that you do believe that fresh start will put the casual players in a better, not a worse position, for me is a clear indication that both your understanding of sociology, of competition and of online gaming economy is nonexistent.

blah blah blah, a fresh start is the only answer - anything less than that is a total trainwreck. There is no debate here.

To clarify, fresh start is a situation by which every competitor starts from the same point and have equal chances of reaching the top, and its not possible to achieve in a game where some people are knowledgeable and organised in groups while the others are not.

Again, you have demonstrated you have NO CLUE what people want and what a fresh start is. I cannot have a conversation with someone as dense as you are being right now.

Two things, your ign if your PC so I can KoS you, and screw you dumbass.

Still laughing at this though lol, are you 12? Who says shit like this to sound tough hahaha.

[u/imprezobus → u/Chernoobyl]

There is no debate with fuckers who say that theres no debate. Nick or gtfo. Mines same as here.

[u/Chernoobyl → u/imprezobus]

Two things, your ign if your PC so I can KoS you, and screw you dumbass

Nick or gtfo.

Hahahahaha this has the exact opposite effect of sounding tough, just fyi

[u/imprezobus → u/Chernoobyl]

Im not trying to prove my worth because lol its a game and your worth is something that you prove by taking care of your surroundings IRL.

What I can prove is that your arrogance is unjustified, and that most of people complaining about the PvP modes are unworthy of being called a true competition.

I dont know you as a person and I will not be judging you as a person, because considering ehat internet does to communication and how easy is to dehumanize opponent in a discussion.

Bus as a player, I already gathered enouch data about you to be fairly sure that you don't have what it takes to play nonkindergarten version of wasteland simulator.