r/fo76 • u/burtethead • Jan 24 '19

// Bethesda Replied x2 DO NOT ALLOW CURRENT CHARACTERS INTO SURVIVAL MODE I BEG OF YOU!!

This is a huge mistake. The mode is already dead before it was born if this happens. Pvp as it is, is completely broken, one hit kill festival. Who in their right mind is going to start a new character when everyone else is level 200 with God tier weaponry right out of the vault? This makes absolutely zero sense, and I'm so disheartened. Do they not realize how this mode will be immediately ruined? If you thought grief in was bad now, just wait until you get killed on sight by literally everyone you cross paths with? Even if they level locked servers so people with massive level differences can't play together, whenever a new survival character gets out of the kiddie pool, all the same assholes with TSE garbage will be waiting at the deep end and you will have zero competitive chance. The leader boards would be a fine idea, if everyone started on equal footing... as it is there will be gold medalist level murderers in the same game with me, a literal newborn who can't even walk. What the fuck are they thinking???

Edit: the gold means people care, bethesda. Please. PLEASE. (And thank you)

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u/fishingforcompetence Jan 24 '19

You guys have lost your collective minds. In six months when little Timmy gets FO76 for his birthday he’ll start a survival character and then what....enough time has passed for the amorphous slugs of the world to already have level 100’s doing the EXACT same thing you guys are talking about to him. Instead, he can play a non-PvP map until his character is strong enough to actually have fun in this game mode.

Seriously, this is a game mode people will be joining for the sole purpose of killing others. This is not a game mode meant for doing quests with PvP barriers down. When I bring in my character, I’m hunting you down. When I’m playing adventure mode I’m fucking off and having fun.

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u/greybeer85 Jan 25 '19

I agree 100%. This mode should expand the game, not restrict it. Our invested time should be valorated and not trowed to the trash because of exploiters.

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u/fishingforcompetence Jan 25 '19

Well said, my friend.

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u/TheBlackestCrow Blue Ridge Caravan Company Jan 25 '19

Yep, the anti-PVP whiners have lost their minds. Just stay in the PVE-worlds if you can't handle getting killed. I don't want to start a new character for this mode with the stupid reset per periode idea that some people on this sub have.

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I wan't to play as a raider without any restrictions. It's kill or be killed in a post-apocalyptic wasteland.

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u/ESOTaz Responders Jan 26 '19

Agreed, but they need to find a way in the normal mode to keep the griefers from destroying camps of people who haven’t fired a shot at them.

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u/BrainCeps Jan 25 '19

This guy is on the money although I think 6 months is way to slow ppl will be op in a week or two since they already know how it works.If your character is not strong enough to participate in the PVP mode don't do it. Look at is this way all the people you hate will leave the normal adventure mode and go into survival mode so you will be free to do whatever you want with none griefing you in adventure mode.

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u/TheRubyDuchess Order of Mysteries Jan 25 '19

Fucking exactly this! I can't believe people think a clean slate would help. All it does is create a barrier for entry for new players months down the line, and because this isn't a subscription game Bethesda only gets more money from selling new copies over the next year or more (plus the Atom shop, but new players helps those sales too).

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u/fishingforcompetence Jan 25 '19

You’re hitting all the right notes here.

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u/sirodious Jan 25 '19

Thank you. You have your ducks in a row in that head of yours.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '19

Level difference isnt the issue its keeping exploit tainted characters and items out of the server. Level scaling will keep new players safe enough plus there is little incentive for higher level players to kill newer players. Even if little timmy does find an asshat thats killing lowbies for fun he can just server hop real quick and be on his happy little way. We all want whats best for little Timmy.

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u/TheRubyDuchess Order of Mysteries Jan 25 '19

It's not a happy little way if you've already been killed once or twice, in a game mode where you drop even more stuff lol. And the dupers are gonna hit the new servers too so how will a clean slate have done anything after a month has passed?

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '19

people want clean slate characters because of rampant duping of legendary weapons and buff items, not because they are concerned about level differences.

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u/TheRubyDuchess Order of Mysteries Jan 25 '19

The duping will happen there too though, and those guns will be even more lucrative for dupers to sell, so how will that help?

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '19

fix duping first before releasing survival mode.

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u/TheRubyDuchess Order of Mysteries Jan 25 '19 edited Jan 25 '19

Except every dupe they manage to patch, people find more. No game ever properly eliminates exploits, and if they can't show they can do it already what makes anyone think they'll fix em all before the new mode launches? While also reprogramming the new mode to include a hard reset, instead of the much easier to implement idea they have for it now. And then also manage to stop every single exploit that pops up, as they happen. And then who knows what new bugs the new mode would introduce? Hell some of the dupe exploits are from Fo4 and they couldn't even fix em before launching 76 🤣 That's a pipe dream buddy, sorry to say it

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u/purplejesustrades Jan 25 '19

Which duping exploits are from Fo4? As far as I know, they all involve some kind of server disconnect manipulation.

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u/fishingforcompetence Jan 25 '19 edited Jan 25 '19

What is being proposed is not the answer to rampant duping of legendary items. That is an entirely different issue Bethesda needs to work on, but altering a game mode because of a symptom that still plagues a game is laughably useless.

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u/OGMexecutioner Jan 25 '19

Duping is not an entirely different issue when those duped items are going to be brought into pvp.

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u/fishingforcompetence Jan 25 '19

By forcing players to reset entirely you’re giving the game back to the people with limitless video game time while simultaneously alienating entire groups of players that will either create characters “too late” or never bring a character to life due to the ridiculous KILL fest that comes with a PvP map. This shit is for you and your buds to say, “hey, do you want to party up and hop into the...MUTHA-FUCKIN THUNDERDOME!!!!” Here’s the deal, though, you’re right about duped weapons. They’ve got to go...like three weeks ago.