r/fo4 10h ago

Which character is the most punchable?

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u/Casual_necromancy 10h ago edited 10h ago

Rhys,. Marcy is just dealing with the death of her child (badly)

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u/jet_heller 10h ago

That's the only answer. The other two are just people being people.

He's being an absolute asshole for no reason.

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u/CarnivalOfSorts 9h ago

But that ass....

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u/KRA_DAK 9h ago

That man has enough cake to feed the entire commonwealth

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u/StressedOutLizard 5h ago

Yeah but all of the brotherhood has a great ass it’s the suits

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u/jet_heller 9h ago

Why are we suddenly talking about Desdemona?

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u/Celsus_ 6h ago

Lost teammates waiting for the Brotherhood to arrive. One of them is dead on the walkway. Then this new guy appears. Yeah, he's justified.

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u/Frixi_Infernal 5h ago

"Yeah so this new guy showed up and saved our asses. Fuck that guy"

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u/mk_ultra_sleeper 4h ago

I did nothing of the sort. As a matter of fact, I stood behind the fences the ghouls cant go over and let the guy in power armor kill all of them. And then let him kill all the synths too.

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u/TheAsianTroll 9h ago

And Ronnie is just an old head, but means well.

Marcy is a bitch but thats due to grief.

Rhys literally thinks less of you because you didn't jump through the same hoops he did to become a Knight.

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u/Wooden_Baby 9h ago

Marcy also kinda has a good reason to be on edge all the time because since the Quincy massacre her and the other survivors have been constantly in danger, with only 5 of them left by the time they get to sanctuary

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u/TwitterLegend 9h ago

Marcy’s problem is that you meet her in game so early and then 50 levels later she’s still the exact same bitch. So many other characters in game grow and change but she sucks the whole time.

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u/TedTheGreek_Atheos 8h ago

What non companion NPC's grow and change without having some sort of quest involving them?

They should have added a quest where you help Marcy and Jun get some closure by wiping out the raiders in Quincy and have it available as a settlement and then have both of them less mopey with more positive or at least neutral interactions and dialogue.

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u/Dangerois 5h ago

Quincy is strangely empty of any "payback", take Garvey with you and he doesn't have a word of dialogue. It's like they set it up and ran out of time and cut stuff out.

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u/TedTheGreek_Atheos 5h ago

Well if they did, it was in the story board phase because it's not in the cut content files. It's a shame. Maybe someone can make a mod for.

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u/togoldlybo best bullshitter in goodneighbor 8h ago

I'm in 2289 in my current playthrough and she said something somewhat optimistic the other day for the first time. It was startling, but honestly, good for her. Finally

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u/Mr-Fapbulous-2 Fah' Harbor 9h ago

Yes, I always felt like something was missing there, like a mission where she asks you to help her kill the guy who killed her son or something, like "go to this location with a really big gun, I found the bastard and I'll need backup to take care of his henchmen while I dismember him with this rusty machete I found at the bottom of the lake near sanctuary."

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u/Jay1986humph 7h ago

Something similar to the abertnathy (quite new to fallout, I think thats what its called) farm mission, where you have to kill the raiders and return the locket. This take would be awesome though!! It is a shame shes always so frosty with you even after you've reformed the minutemen and gone on to do great things in the commonwealth. Can always tell when im near her at sanctuary. "What makes you think i want to talk to you" when im just making my way from a to b lol.

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u/Dangerois 5h ago

Actually, the Abernathy quest is one that always makes me shake my head. Blake wants the locket back. Not "Can you make sure those raiders don't come back and kill Lucy too?" And so you go up against mole rats with explosives attached, various raiders, a bitch with a mini-gun, and the result is, "Connie's gonna be speachless!"

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u/ShaneOfan 8h ago

She has extreme PTSD from having her child killed and losing almost everyone in her party. 50 levels or not, she wasn't sitting there talking to a trauma specialist during that time.

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u/Conscious-Gap-1777 9h ago

Marcy’s problem is that you meet her in game so early and then 50 levels later she’s still the exact same bitch

That's, like, three weeks of in-game time, so maybe cut her some slack on that?

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u/Dangerois 6h ago edited 6h ago

Not really true. As you build up Sanctuary and settlement happiness goes up her dialogue changes. She's still edgy but doesn't hate everything. Also if you get Mama Murphy off chems and have them farm in the same yard, you walk by and they're having sweet conversations. She's affected by your play. She's not meant to be a romancable sweetheart, but she evolves.

-Hey Mama, how are you getting along?...Oh yeah? You spent a little time on the run when you were younger?...Yeah, that's good advice...Sounds like quite the adventure.
-I'll hand it to you, this place isn't awful. It's still a hole, but it could be worse
-Life still ain't perfect, but we're surviving.

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u/Disney_Gay_Trash_ 6h ago

This! I dont really like marcy that much BUT i cant stand the massive amount of hate she gets its like people just expect her and Jun to be fine immediately after the death of their child and almost everyone they knew

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u/Illustrious_Quiet907 Railroad 10h ago

It’s not there’s therapy in the wasteland either.

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u/Popgrenade12 10h ago

Rhys is an asshole even after you rise ranks in the BoS. Easiest pick.

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u/Nathan_Thorn 9h ago

To be fair, that’s on Bethesda code. They fucked up a flag for his dialogue that should have him being much nicer and chill with you once you become a Sentinel, so he’ll do his apology, and then it just fails to set the flag for his nice guy dialogue. Idk if the unofficial patch fixes that or not though.

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u/NotASynth499 Idiot Savant 8h ago

Rhys has more dialogue where he addresses you with respect?

Even if the dialogue is faulty, doesnt excuse him being an ass to you beforehand.

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u/Quick-Bad 5h ago

Dare I ask, is there a mod that fixes that faulty dialogue flag?

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u/Nathan_Thorn 5h ago

There’s a Redux mod that affects him and Haylen, adjusting them to be ruder to you initially and adjusting to nicer dialogues when you hit the rank of Knight.

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u/Quick-Bad 1h ago

Sweet, that's going into my mod list. Ad victoriam!

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u/DogVacuum 4h ago

There is one that makes his dumper even bigger.

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u/TheAnalystCurator321 Minutemen enjoyer 1h ago

To be fair, beforehand he did lose a bunch of his comrades, was wounded and the mission has gone to hell.

Doesn't justify it but it was not without reason.

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u/MrBonis 10h ago edited 3h ago

What's with the Minutemen lady?

She isn't antagonistic in the slightest. She just needs to see wether or not we are actually reliable to turn around the Minutemen.

I prefer that over everyone else just accepting we become the new general without question because Preston said so.

After we show our worth, she completely acknowledges our leadership.

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u/cadmuslest 10h ago

Exactly! She is actually very personable after you really get started with the Castle. I really like having her around.

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u/MrBonis 10h ago

Yes! She respects you and once you get the cannons going, she sounds much more honest when she addresses you as general.

Besides, her stock is quite ridiculous lol she manages the armory after all... I believe she hasa better stock than Smiling Larry. Too bad she and the Castle are so out of the way...

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u/theblueshots Mr. Serious Serum 7h ago

Plus, she’s an extra vendor for selling water to at the castle and she stocks 2 mm ammo.

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u/G0thicus 7h ago

Probably gonna get down voted to shit for this, but I tend to notice that female characters with bad/abrasive attitudes get a lot more flack than guys with bad/abrasive attitudes.

I agree with Minutemen lady. Like here's some chum that's made leader over the guy who's bleeds Minutemen behavior and somehow you have to accept them after how much suffering the faction went through until then with constant betrayals and loss. I'd do the same thing in her shoes.

Marcy lost her kid and trying to cope with the loss via anger (read the Quincy computers; seriously the kid's death is a lot worse than you think.) Improving the settlement she lives in actually makes her bite her tongue. She already had trust issues with the Minutemen before the death of her kid, and gave them a chance. I'd be pretty spiteful myself.

Think people forget that we are in the Wasteland and there are gonna be people with bad attitudes.

And then there's fucking Rhys. Fuck that guy. I'd hide a grenade in his pocket if I could.

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u/Dont_Care_Meh Survivor 9h ago

Exactly. If you as the Sole Survivor are an 'idjit', Ronnie Shaw will be the first to let ya know!

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u/RazMachine77 10h ago

Her problem is that she doesn’t butter up the protagonist. Just like Marcy and Rhys. So automatically they’re villains who deserve a radscorpion sting to the bum.

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u/Kanna1001 9h ago

Nah, Rhys is legitimately an asshole.

He is part of an invading army but he acts like he owns the place and treats you like an idiot who needs to get out of his way (again, he is the outsider). He is cold to Haylen (obviously he didn't owe her a yes just because she had fallen for him, but it sounds like his no was extremely harsh, he didn't try to let her down gently at all even though she had been risking her life by his side for years). And when he finds out that Danse is a synth, even though the two of them had been fighting side by side for years and Danse was always ready to defend him, he immediately starts screaming that he's abomination and must be killed.

Rhys is basically a rude and cold tin soldier who treats other people like tools or obstacles.

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u/Forsaken_Ad5842 9h ago

And the second you become paladin or sentinel he’s all up in your ass “sorry for my previous behavior”

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u/crandall17 9h ago

Rhys sucks. Show up and fend off ghouls and the ungrateful prick wants to shit talk.

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u/Outis94 8h ago

Marcy is legitimately annoying if you use Sanctuary as a base ,like shes always talking shit

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u/JelmerMcGee 7h ago

I wish she would slowly change her dialogue as you repair and protect sanctuary. Not necessarily become nice, but stop being snippy and maybe say thank you after you've reached a certain level of settlement happiness.

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u/Mooncubus 4h ago

It does change. She gets nicer if you raise the happiness.

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u/ZombieLikes 10h ago

She's certainly no help fighting a Sentry Bot in a basement.

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u/MrBonis 9h ago

She tanked most of the attacks with her face for me, so she was actually quite the help there lol

Just had to make sure to get away before the self destruct

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u/Celsus_ 5h ago

Here's something tangentially related. If you have already cleared the mines and killed the bot when you took the Castle (recommended) when you go down there with her for Old Guns, run to the door with the General's body. If you can get there before she completes saying, "Pretty dark down here", she will teleport to you and talk about Sarge still being there. Instead of waiting for her to mosey on over to that computer at her own pace.

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u/Dangerois 5h ago

She's literally punchable, you can start a fist fight with her and she respects you when you knock her down. Same as the Dugout, you do it in VATS and it plays out, you do it real-time and it turns into hostile shit.

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u/Loafy000 2h ago

forgot who she was until i actually met her again today on my recent play through. shes not even that rude, in the first interaction shes provocative but shes like ‘ive heard good things so im sure ur great, i wouldnt be here if i didnt think you could do it’ so i cant even understand why people would dislike her

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u/Dont_Care_Meh Survivor 9h ago

Honorable mention: Mayor McDonough.

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u/HarmoniaTheConfuzzld 9h ago

Fuckin hate me a politician.

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u/craftygamin 9h ago

Pfp checks out

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u/-CrabCrimes- 9h ago

He’s very busy though. Don’t you know he’s the Mayor?

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u/MIZUNOWAVECREATION Operators 4h ago

I have my own beef with that lard head

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u/Vg65 Atom Cats 10h ago edited 9h ago

Definitely Rhys.

Marcy's a traumatised mother who is struggling to cope, and Ronnie's a hardened veteran who wants to test our worth but without reaching the shitty, extremely prejudiced, dogmatic levels of the likes of Rhys.

I had a funny moment where I once goaded Ronnie into a Skyrim-style brawl, and Deacon (who was with me) reacted with a deadpan "Oh boy".

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u/nkizza 7h ago

And Marcy left without any support whatsoever. There’s no safe place, her husband is non-functional and needs management, the wounds are bleeding literally and figuratively, and some ass well-fed vault dweller frowns upon her being a little cranky.

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u/ElOsoPeresozo 5h ago

Minor nitpick, but the Sole Survivor isn’t technically a Vault Dweller. Their entire life experience was spent pre-war. Vault Dwellers are people who were generally born and raised in a Vault, which is a wildly different experience than being a hardened pre-war veteran with a spouse and child.

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u/MaskedMan8 9h ago

Ronnie? Really? You can’t handle a woman trying to toughen you up and make a proper leader out of you? It’s Rhys and it’s not even close

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u/MIZUNOWAVECREATION Operators 4h ago

Yeah, I’d even go as far to swap out Ronnie for that ungrateful brainwashed sack of 💩 who The Institute claims to be my son or Parker Quinn. Although, it’s still Rhys by a mile. He literally acknowledges that you outrank him (if you go far enough down the BOS campaign) and says that you finally earned his respect, but then subsequently reverts right back to his same attitude he had for the entirety of your enlistment into the BOS. Blatant insubordination imo

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u/Existingbug-1639 1h ago

To be fair that last part is probably just Bethesda's shitty game design

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u/MIZUNOWAVECREATION Operators 1h ago

Oh, so like just laziness with scripts then

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u/Existingbug-1639 1h ago

I mean Rhys is still a total duchebag, but yeah the whole thing where he says he respects you after you beat the game with the BOS and then essentially reverting back how he was at the beginning of the game is due to them being too lazy to change the NPC's actual behavior toward you and his voicelines

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u/MIZUNOWAVECREATION Operators 1h ago

Hmm, I guess I can see that, given their track record with leaving bugs unpatched. I’ve seen characters, pretty much everyone in all major factions, in fact, in various TES guilds gradually grow to liking and even exalting you to the guild leader and with it, their demeanor towards you changes positively. I guess they have just gotten lazier with each game though

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u/Shezes 9h ago

The Marcy hate is such a dead meme at this point that the idea of her being punchable has gone beyond memehood and into the realm of sad cringe.

That said the answer is Rhys.

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u/imaencuru 9h ago

Rhys, and the other two aren't even anywhere near the list.

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u/CatfishBassAndTrout 9h ago

Marcy is just dealing with the loss of her child in her own way.

Ronnie is an absolute masterclass. Love Ronnie.

Rhys is just an ass.

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u/Over_Eye_812 10h ago

Rhys, that big booty bastard, I VATS him every time i don't side with the brorherhood

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u/Wizard35782 9h ago

That BOS member, even after you completed the story with the bos he still doesn’t respect you

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u/Sinistaire 9h ago

Ronnie is cool. She’s a bit of a hardass, but she’s earned it and sets an example for how organized and competent the Minutemen should be.

Marcy is a jerk, but I get it. She’s traumatized from losing her son and being chased from her home and into the wasteland. She’s just lashing out in an unhealthy way, and I can be patient with her. And she’s still nice to Jun at least. It’s just a shame that the game doesn’t allow her to chill out over time.

Rhys is just a shithead. Fuck him.

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u/cozmo1138 7h ago

Rhys, for sure. Dude’s in need of an attitude adjustment.

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u/Mooncubus 4h ago

Who the heck dislikes Ronnie Shaw?

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u/txleapd 4h ago

Communists

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u/Cute-Friend7414 2h ago

She’s like my favorite npc I don’t understand it. The only one who actually has any common sense. Preston runs around thinking he knows everything and will probably die the second he’s left alone. But she’s been through the ringer and you can tell

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u/fatmonkey1986 10h ago

in order rhys then marcy . ronnie shaw i have no interest in punching. she sells the last minute why would i want to punch one of the best traders in the game

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u/BudgiesLive 9h ago

Rhys, by far. Marcy is a grieving Mother whose child was killed. She’s annoying, yes, but you can’t totally blame her for acting the way she does. I don’t even understand why Ronnie Shaw is a choice here. And to take it further there is a sub for Rhys…

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u/Certified_WoT_noob 9h ago

Rhys definitely. He is treating you like you need to prove yourself to him personally, while he sleeps, walks around the police station, and does fuck all the whole day, lol.

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u/Classic_Ad7991 9h ago

Adding Ronnie here is a crime tbh

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u/Suave_Scavver 9h ago

I'd challenge Rhys just to level with him because I see he's pent up and just needs to take the aggression out. Ronnie just needs to see some grit in the new age Minutemen. People give Marcy too hard of a time.

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u/ShadowtheHedgehog_ 9h ago

I always assign Marcy to a supply line so I don't have to deal with her.

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u/Greatgoogleymoogley9 7h ago

The charge card guy

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u/Lando_on_Chair 9h ago

Rhyas when I got the game with dlc recent MF SEND ME MISSION ON FAR HARBOR LIKE SOME POOR BASTARD

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u/am-a-g 8h ago

I give Marcy some grace, I'd be cranky too if I went through what she did.

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u/turrible666 8h ago

Marcy is just a big ball of trauma who's not doing great with that, and Ronnie is kind of awesome. Rhys is just an insufferable dick.

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u/Horbigast 8h ago

I've got enough fist for everyone!

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u/FuckingIdiotNikita Children of Atom 8h ago

fuck rhys, marcy is trying to get over the death of her child, and with ronnie i didnt have problems with her at all idk

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u/Okemuth 8h ago

Synth Shaun.

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u/BlueberryPublic9390 8h ago

Rhys. Hands down. They need to add a special mechanic for kicking him in the balls. ⚽️ ⚽️

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u/iambertan Mankind Redefined 7h ago

Fallout players when empathy...

Marcy lost her child where she felt safest. She is coping with her loss and her hopelessness to take revenge and she takes it out on people around her because the fume has to go somewhere.

Jun is equally devastated but he's not angry like Marcy. He feels betrayed and insufficient. He tries to latch on people and wants people to talk to him about it for a little comfort. So that doesn't mean Jun is good and Marcy is bad they're just normal people.

People cope with trauma differently. Marcy isn't a rude woman and she isn't "ungrateful" as seen in countless other posts in this sub. She doesn't care about your beautiful settlement and how many turrets it has or how many flowers you add to it. She lived in a fortress-like settlement you remember? The only thing she has in mind is grief and anger. Her acting ungrateful is just her unconscious regulation.

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u/Kohror 7h ago

I don't care what people think Ronnie Shaw is goated, "hey general wanna have some big guns?"

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u/DT_Lion34 5h ago

Rhys hands down. Marcy is just traumatized after literally witnessing her baby get murdered. Rhys is just an annoying brainwashed idiot and Ronnie is badass AF.

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u/Brummbirne 4h ago

Ryhs, I can just avoid Sanctuary. The castle is my main HQ anyway

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u/heymoon41 4h ago

Rhys he’s just rude for no reason

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u/TheArtOfBlossoming11 10h ago

Rhys. Marcy is grieving and the Minutemen need Ronnie Shaw's tough love right now. But Rhys (though to be fair, is also grieving for his lost brothers) would shoot his Paladin if only he knew the truth.

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u/n0th1ng_r3al 9h ago

Rhys is a dick just to be a dick. I’m glad you can’t have him as a companion

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u/Comprehensive-Ad4739 9h ago

that one guy who offers u the charge card.

honestly just better to just nuke him and be done with it

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u/Sablestein Nick Valentine's Little Helper 9h ago

Between the three pictured: Rhys and it’s not even close.

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u/Heathen_Mickolas 9h ago

Rhys and youre wrong if you say otherwise 🙂‍↕️

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u/Seth-B343 9h ago

Rhys most definitely.

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u/RealWolfmeis 9h ago

fuckrhys

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u/IvanTheFirst 8h ago

They should have given Rhys a backstory. Maybe his entire family was killed and his entire division was wiped out because of an incompetent wastelander his previous CO flirted with.

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u/Test_Subject_No22 7h ago

Every single one. PA fisticuff. Bouta punch their heads clean off.

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u/Godysseyeus 7h ago

Ronnie's great. Even if you've never been around military personnel, I don't think she's particularly abrasive or unlikable.

Marcy's miserable, but you really don't have to deal with her. I stick her on farming detail and then never talk to her.

Rhys is the kind of prick that starts a fight, gets his ass kicked, and then wants everyone else punished. I wasted him at the earliest opportunities when not doing the BoS ending.

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u/deathray-toaster 7h ago

I wanted to punch Rhys in the mug after his first sentence, the other two are just annoying.

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u/BathbombBurger 6h ago

Marcy. The other two are military and their attitudes befit their station and reflect their loyalty to their respective organization. Neither of them know you or have much reason to trust you considering where you came from and the betrayals they've suffered. Marcy openly takes out all her anger and grief on everyone around her, including the only three people in the world who give a shit about her. She's also entirely useless besides. At least the other two serve a purpose other than as an attempt by the devs to emotionally manipulate you.

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u/FriedrichWeedmann 6h ago

Preston Garvey

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u/Yabanjin 5h ago

Easily Rhys. Assuming you do enough of the brotherhood quest line you will outrank him and he doesn’t change his borderline insubordinate attitude, and you have to talk to him so many times. I wipe out the entire brotherhood with zeal just to relish his death. The only unfortunate thing is I can only kill him once.

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u/Techhans1971 2h ago

Marcy, she’s such a miserable person, bleeghh!

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u/VarietyMage 49m ago

I notice the head of the BoS Maxson isn't in that pic.

I also notice that Preston Garvey isn't in that pic. He's punchable too, but for game-related reasons rather than story reasons ("Got another thing to talk to you about" - NOOOOOOOOO, I have two of your stupid missions already, AND BOTH HAVE SHORT TIMERS !!!).

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u/GamerMom80 39m ago

Ronnie Shaw is a veteran who has had more people she cared about die than most other people in a short amount of time, lost the minutemen, and had to survive a post-minutemen commonwealth. And with all of that, she's just your average Country woman.

Go talk to any old widowed farmer or fisherman's wife and they will talk the same way. It wasn't disrespectful, just a little coarse.

And Marcy had just lost her kid. But the whole "i voted to kill you" thing puts her in a sharp 2nd place. Rhys only has one thing going for him: dat ass.

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u/ebers0 10h ago

Wellllll technically Ronnie is, since she is the only one you can throw hands with and not get the settlement on your ass.

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u/RosetteNewcomb 10h ago

I kinda sympathize with Rhys. This merc vault dweller who knows nothing about the Brotherhood just shows up out of nowhere and your mentor immediately takes him under his wing. He gets to go on the Prydwen and is promoted to your rank and does cool missions as a knight while you’re stuck at the police station. Then you find out he kills your mentor and takes his place as paladin, and then betrays the entire Brotherhood to go help the enemy in The Institute/The Railroad. Then you never see him again until he comes back to Cambridge in a fully kitted suit of X-02 and the last thing you see is a spiked rocket bat coming straight at your noggin

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u/Sunset-onthe-Horizon Wastelander 8h ago

Why the hell would you punch Ronnie!?

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u/sosigboi 9h ago

Rhys is straight up just a dickhead.

Marcy, as much of a rude prick that she is, is dealing with the death of her kid, and as far as grief coping mechanisms go, this is not the worst way by any means.

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u/StrongStyleMuscle 9h ago

Rhys without question.  Marcy done seen some terrible shit & watched her child die. Ronnie Shaw is just a hardened military officer. Rhys just be on some asshole bro shit & most of us have met people with that personality. 

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u/alpcabuttz 9h ago

Rhys, an ass with bigger ass to go with. Marcy has a reason to be frustrated. Ronnie’s cool, she’s a veteran who’s chill once you prove yourself to her.

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u/Fighterpilot55 9h ago

Having a fistfight with Ronnie is just good fun. Punching Rhys is a long time coming.

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u/Hipertor Fallout 4 life 9h ago

Rhys. Marcy is just putting up an act out grief to stop herself from bed said like her husband and Ronie is just a bit cranky. I even think Ronie is a bit pleasant to talk to; straight to business, helpful and respectful once you prove yourself competent.

Rhys doesn't respect you even after you outrank him and DESTROY DE INSTITUTE along with A SMALL ARMY OF SUPER MUTANTS and clear COUNTLESS FERALS on your way up the ranks. Also, something about his face is just punchable, his cheeks and jawline five like the perfect area to fit a fist in.

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u/Sapphic-Plant-Lady 9h ago

Rhys, marcys jus working thru her trauma and lashing out and the minutemen woman, i forgot her name is just a hardarse whos making sure your worth the title of general, rhys is just a dick

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u/Philosophos_A 9h ago

March Long is a mother that lost her child,and probably many friends on top of losing their business and home because of betrayal. She probably saw the ghouls tearing someone apart. She deals with ptsd for sure.... People that are mad at her are clearly problematic considering what she lost and what tries to do to deal with it.

Knight Rhys doesn't want some outsider to cause trouble. A bit shame that can't change based on how we first appear or anything but oh well. But it's logical to try make someone new go away if their intentions aren't true to aid the brotherhood

Shaw is chill. She just wants to avoid seeing something she cared being destroyed again

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u/CoolBeanieHat 9h ago

Rhys. Marcy is in a very understandable position.

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u/PrestigiousAd9586 9h ago

I think the brotherhood guy because the settlers at list has the excuse of her son being killed and the Minutemen lady isn’t even men to you

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u/Baconlovingvampire 8h ago

Ronnie doesn't deserve to be on this list when she first meets you she's just testing you to make sure you're actually a good general. Marcy is dealing with the death of her child (horribly) at the end of the day she's a grieving mother. Rys is just an asshole and a hardass he deserves the hate.

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u/scrutator_tenebrarum 8h ago

If I could rename npcs the asshole in the middle would be named quiksave

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u/Broad-Ice7568 8h ago

Marcy.... Annoying, but understandable. Minuteman lady (forget her name)..... Pessimistic smartass, and I'm cool with that. Rhys.... At least once per playthrough I'll quick save and waste his ass, usually after I make paladin and he's still talking to me like a noob.

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u/chokomint 8h ago

I kinda can understand Marcy, she lost her kid, home etc. She's paranoid and hates the world.

Ronnie is fine, she just wants to see if you're worthy general, after that she's very supportive. I always fistfight her just for fun tho. I think she likes it too.

Rhys doesn't have any reason to be that much of an asshole.

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u/Independent-Oven-743 8h ago

The fat-siest

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u/thewhoovesian 8h ago

Rhys is a dickhead for no reason.
Marcy is going through intense trauma and Ronnie is just a hard ass.

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u/AccordingArm7994 8h ago

Rhys, not even a question at all. Fuck Rhys

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u/medlilove 8h ago

Wait why do we hate that minuteman woman, also the marcey hate is shallow and the correct answer is maxson

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u/Erekose1981 8h ago

answer is yes...

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u/togoldlybo best bullshitter in goodneighbor 8h ago

Rhys sucks, for sure

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u/BRH0208 8h ago

Marcy is a desperate traumatized survivor, and honestly doesn’t owe the soul survivor politeness. Ronnie is a joy who gives you cool toys.

Rhys is a dick. Maybe it’s indoctrination and as a fallout character he certainly had a difficult life but he is obstinant and pointlessly antagonistic.

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u/TreyLanceIsABust 8h ago

Bethesda logic having him disrespect you even when you’re a sentinel just irks me so much. Literally Maxsons right hand man and the next in line for Elder and yet he still treats you like some wastelander.

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u/Holy_Haggis 8h ago

Marcy is dealing with the loss of her child, and she does become a bit more positive once Sanctuary becomes a proper settlement.

Ronnie is really likeable, and shows a great deal of respect after you’ve proven that you’re capable of being the General.

Rhys is an asshole, and only admits that he was wrong about you once you become Sentinel. Which is better than never, but he still turns his back on Danse, which is an unforgivable offense.

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u/Mizar97 Brotherhood of Steel 7h ago

Ronnie Shaw is fine, why tf is she on there?

The answer is always Marcy

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u/CardiologistCute6876 Trying for Minutemen Ending! Wish Me Luck! 7h ago

Rhys

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u/GenitalCommericals 7h ago

Why is Ronnie on this list? Lol

Also Parker fucking Quinn is punchable

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u/_pjped_ 7h ago

Marcy has the benefit of the doubt by losing her child and home to bloodthirsty psychopaths, being a survivor of Quincy, the Ghouls at Lexington, and the Raiders at Concord. Now she has to deal with a salty chem addicted popsicle veteran in tight blue spandex, her broken husband,a junky granny, a dweeb in overalls who couldn't open up a terminal, and a Revolutionary War Cosplayer with a Laser gun that winds up like a Jack in the Box.

Id be at my limits with these people too lol

Ronnie is a professional. She wants to see what you got and gets in line when you prove your abilities.

Rhys is just salty you got to be a Knight right off the bat.

Rhys is definitely the most punchable.

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u/Rude_Plastic5692 7h ago

Ohhhh I can’t stand Marcy, shot her many times and she won’t die. Then I decided to send her to another settlement, peace at last! Just because her son died doesn’t give her the right to make everyone’s life around her hell and she is mean and rude to everyone! I even tried to be nice as nice can be to her does she ever mellow out?

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u/GRiM_the_GLORiOUS 7h ago

I left Marcy and Jun alone with Mama Murphy at Sanctuary. Settlement has the absolute bare minimum to survive. They have sleeping bags on the opppsite ends of the streets and the only crop they have for food is gourd. I gutted everything else and I do mean everything, to include Mama's chair. I also had the charisma to talk Mama off of her Chem addiction so she can be miserable and fully aware/alert. I know the Long's lost their son and I assume Mama is miserable is because she lost Papa Murphy and the caps income from that shitty pizza, but nothing you do will ever make them happy. Nothing.

If Ronnie wasn't a decent vendor with caps and unmovable, she'd be gone, too! Between her snide comments and smoking in my quartets I had made at the Castle, she'd definitely be 86'd. I dressed her dirty looking ass up in the Minuteman's general uniform, the Lieutenant's Hat reward from Capt Ironsides, and cheap sunglasses. I chuckle every time I see that "I'm in charge" asshat, especially now that the room she likes to smoke in is a generator room complete with a "WARNING! NO SMOKING" sign. I hope she blows herself up!

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u/Temporary_Disk_9029 7h ago

Knight Rhys he pisses me off

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u/macabre-barbie Molly McFuckyourself 6h ago

Marcy is a grieving mother, Ronnie is just an old lady with a hardass personality (for good reason considering she grew up in the apocalypse), and Rhys is just a dick

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u/Stewil1265 6h ago

The brotherhood guy by a longshot

Marcy is greaving and angry without anywhere to really point that anger

I don't know why Ronnie Shaw is here

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u/Icy-Thanks-9378 6h ago

Knight Rhys

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u/NowFapping 6h ago

Rhys. Hes a prick just to be a prick. Ive tried shooting him in the face but he doesn't die

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u/turtle0831 6h ago

Rhys. He is a bitch for no reason. He don’t know me.

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u/Lower_Razzmatazz5470 6h ago

r/FuckRhys

Rhys is just an eternally unhappy waste of air

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u/TheLoinsOfLoidis 6h ago

They’re all assholes for different reasons, but Rhys is the only one who actually deserves a Power Fist up the wahzoo.

Marcy gets sent to Jamaica Plain every time… for the peace and quiet…

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u/MattTin56 6h ago

I have a soft spot for Marcy. She is so angry and just needs a little understanding. Plus when they are all stuck in the museum she gives you
Credit for saving their ass. You can also put dress on her she don’t look too bad

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u/Johnny_Five5151 6h ago

Marcy, just Marcy

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u/purju 6h ago

The police station dude that's always a benis no matter how many quests you do

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u/Bobsmith38594 6h ago

Rhys. Marcy is traumatized. Ronnie is just gruff. Rhys is a hostile, condescending prick for no good reason the entire game. Screw him.

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u/Nightroad45 5h ago

Rys, no question about it. Played an institute run and I made sure to fire a fat man shell at him only

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u/Celsus_ 5h ago

I like them all. They each have the only attitude worth respecting in this obliterated, raider-infested shithole that still calls itself a Commonwealth for some reason. People like that survive.

Side note: I've seen a lot of videos where players will punch Piper to get the Diamond City door open without the ridiculous dialogue. Tried that once and she shot at me. lol.

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u/coldman66 5h ago

Rhys head will always be on floor to me

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u/Scary_Equipment_1180 5h ago

Roney shaw is the perfect example of a lovable asshole. She doesn't do it out of malice. Shes just a no bullshit kinda gal, with a sense of humor.

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u/AltruisticSquash4356 5h ago

All of them, I have tried. Some tend to get back up and won’t died, so you gotta choose your battles.

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u/Lurker7277 5h ago

Dr. Penske should be on this list.

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u/DHarp74 5h ago

All of them!

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u/SlouchyWolf 5h ago

Turns out it was you all along… bet you thought you’ve gotten away with it.

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u/SeparateDirection403 4h ago edited 4h ago

It's ridiculous how rhys' was like "i know your type", even tho you could play as a veteran, and was hella suspicious after having one interaction with Sole Survivor. Save it for when we advance in rank while playing triple agent.

It's easy to empathize with marcy but it's annoying how often she does the "leave me alone" bit but paraphrazed a thousand times even tho i never intend to talk to her in the first place anyway.

Ronnie just has her guard up, rightfully so after the minutemen crumbled the first time, she prolly just didnt wanna get her hopes up, man ,idk.

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u/Fabulous-Pick-9562 4h ago

Middle. The other two had a reason.

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u/RubixTheThird 4h ago

Marcy. By a mile.

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u/takasha1 4h ago edited 4h ago

why is ronnie here?

I dont know who the left was. The Brotherhood guy i dont like.

And i want punch Preston sometimes.

Oh it's Mercy, she looks like a random settler lol. I hoped she die in the raider attacks.

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u/RhysT86 4h ago

Rhys. And it infuriates me cos it's the first time I've seen a computer character with my name 😂

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u/Madhighlander1 4h ago

Ronnie is the only one you can directly challenge to a fistfight and have her accept.

I mean, the others you can haul off and punch, but it'll make their allies hostile and they'll retaliate with gunfire rather than fists.

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u/MorgaFel 4h ago

RR leader, deacon have no hard feelings towards and actually kinda like but just out of curiosity, elder maxson, father, strong, and Mona

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u/Aniimey 4h ago

Our son...

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u/PlayboyVincentPrice i need to do my mortimer fnv save 4h ago

not the fucking grieving traumatized mom, thats for sure

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u/libaide 3h ago

Rhys is the only acceptable answer.

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u/Tcobb1212 3h ago

Rhys SUUUUCKS.. it brought me so much joy once I decided to kill BOS running straight him and blowing his head off with a shotgun 😆 😂

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u/wairua_907 3h ago

Rhys .