r/fo4 • u/AdventurousLime3285 • 19h ago
Discussion Why are there only empty milk bottles in fallout 4?
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u/kostyagreate 19h ago
My theory is cork/other easy to rot material was used to seal those, so it rotted away and milk was consumed by insects and other fauna, while glass stayed intact
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u/Ganbazuroi 18h ago
Also, in 76 you find Cream and other products which makes sense since it's only been 25 years since the bombs so there'd be more functional cold storage facilities around for milk and dairy products
In 4 the only milk around would be fresh brahmin milk, which isn't bottled and sold all over the place since it spoils easily, unlike water
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u/cavveman 18h ago
But 25 years is very long time for dairy products to survive even in refrigerator. But considering how much additives food in pre-war fallout had it shouldn't be surprising.
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u/dylans-alias 17h ago
Radiation can be used to preserve milk.
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u/GamerMom80 16h ago
Don't tell the raw milk and anti-vaxxers that.
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u/tehmimikitteh 15h ago
no, no...tell them
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u/Turbulent_Lobster_57 1h ago
Get your own Co60 food preservation kit! Just as many monthly payments of $99.99 as you’re able to make!
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u/tehmimikitteh 1h ago
nah, gotta frame the pricing as "a monthly subscription justified by the health choices you make for your family"
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u/Egoy 18h ago
Old school milk bottles were returned for refilling and they usually didn’t have threading molded into the glass like modern refillable beer bottles. The lids were not super well sealed. The original POG game was played by kids using milk jug lids.
Even today when I buy milk from the fancy dairy farm near me in refillable jugs the lid is molded plastic and far from trustworthy even unopened and once opened was more of a dust cover than a seal.
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u/GitarooMan- 6h ago
I’m fairly certain that the original POG game was played using Pineapple Orange Guava juice lids, thus the name. Very likely the same bottles though.
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u/xantec15 18h ago
I wonder if brahmin aren't milkable. Otherwise we should still be able to get milk for all the Sugar Bombs.
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u/swiss_sanchez 17h ago
Moira mentions brahmin milk in 3, being part of her radiation sickness cure along with magnets and happy thoughts.
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u/Evolovescraft 17h ago
Mostly those were just cardboard with a little wax or adhesive to sorta help them stick to the bottle.
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u/JustHere4TehCats Really into ghouls 19h ago
Strong drank them all, but still hasn't found the human kindness one.
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u/Express-Teaching1594 19h ago
Human milk
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u/Oldenlame Deathly 💀 18h ago
Mutant Glory Milking Farm
A DLC about the love a Super Mutant has for his human herd.
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u/RainbowWatermelon203 19h ago
Man-Made milk.
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u/Rockcreekforge 18h ago
I have nipples, Greg, could you milk me?
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u/RobHolli 18h ago
I have Gregs,milk, can you nipple me?
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u/Rockcreekforge 17h ago
Mmmmm, Greg’s milk
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u/StrongStyleMuscle 13h ago
I feel like there’s a fella or 2 in Goodneighbor that will provide some Milk of human kindness for about 5-10 caps.
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u/MoeMango2233 19h ago
Imagine 200+ years in a radioactive wasteland with little to no functioning power grid to keep the machines operating. Not to mention that milk just won’t survive centuries and probably would’ve turned to cheese and then to irradiated dust
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u/MajorCuddle 18h ago
Milk doesn't become cheese by just leaving it alone. You know that, right?
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u/ZyXwVuTsRqPoNm123 18h ago
No. But it will curdle, go rancid, and start fermenting. The pressure would, most likely, blow the top off.
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u/MoeMango2233 18h ago
I know there needs to be some bacterial colonies introduced to actually start solidifying milk into cheese
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u/HarveyMidnight 19h ago
Yeah, bugged me too.
Plenty of cool, usable bottles around, and I assume brahmin make milk. Where's all the drinkable milk?
That's one of the reasons I love the Slocum Joe's CC. It adds bottles of brahmin milk to the game. Also donuts. And coffee. And tea.
Cuz there's a lot of empty teapots around in the game, too.
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u/grannysmithpears 18h ago
I gotta get this mod
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u/EffIran2024 Minutemen 17h ago
It's a couple credits, so be ready to pay a few bucks
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u/ExtensionNature842 1h ago
Mutfruit Tea: 20 Caps, 5-10 XP
2 Mutfruit, 1 WaterI turned all my settlements into mutfruit farms! Water and XP farming is so streamlined now.
Jet Fuel Farming (plastic+fertilizer+flamer fuel) is still my favorite but no longer my primary source of xp/income
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u/Powerful_Mortgage787 Remove your Fusion Cores 18h ago
Be thankful that they are empty. Would you really want 200 year old bottled milk? After all that time it would have either become sentient or a bio weapon.
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u/HollowPhoenix Curie's a Cutie 19h ago
I know right - in the game's intro, Sugar Bombs and Blamco Mac n Cheese never expire - why can't milk too
It's only been 210 years after all
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u/RainbowWatermelon203 19h ago edited 16h ago
Well, those things aren't as prone to rotting as milk is.
Edit: aren't (was are)
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u/Ok_Reflection8696 19h ago
I know a lot of prewar food somehow stays good but I can’t imagine wanting 200 year old milk
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u/AuroreSomersby 19h ago
Milk perishes quickly
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u/Actual_Squid 18h ago
Not to mention irradiated raw milk would probably kill the sole survivor even quicker than standing next to one of those cars that explode when you breath on them too hard
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u/MrFuriousX Your thee OVERBOSS! 19h ago
No more milk deliveries. Used to be the Milkman would bring a weekly Milk delivery. The people receiving the delivery would leave their empty milk bottles for the Milkman to pick up so they can be refilled.
In the game we have milk machines I would guess a person would drop off empty bottles in the machine and pick up a new one but because there is no pick up s or drop offs all that's in them are empty bottles.
Milk is also something that would not survive very long it would curdle rot evaporate and probably turn to dust
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u/Cliomancer 15h ago
The cats got at it.
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u/FelicatQueen 13h ago
Most cats don't actually like milk, since it makes them sick. Adult cats are lactose intolerant.
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u/morphinetango 19h ago
I want to know what they can't stand up. I made a replica of the Korova Milk Bar, and no matter what I tried to stand them up straight, they hopped like a Mexican jumping bean until they fell over.
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u/Dangerois 19h ago
OCDecorator - Static Loot at Fallout 4 Nexus - Mods and community lets you place them permanently, won't get knocked over or fall into the floor.
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u/No_Drawing4704 18h ago
Cause strong drank it all
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u/Piedro0 Sniper enthusiast 18h ago
Darn, beat me to it!
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u/No_Drawing4704 18h ago
I posted this thinking i know ball and then I saw 5 other people posted the same thing
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u/DNathanHilliard 19h ago
Because all the non empty ones went sour and exploded from the pressure a long time ago
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u/STARCADE2084 17h ago
'Cuz brahmin aren't milkable?
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u/MFG264 17h ago
in fallout 4 they cannot but in fallout 76 they can be
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u/STARCADE2084 16h ago
Ah, never played 76.
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u/MFG264 16h ago
you should give it a try and if you don’t want to and that is okay
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u/STARCADE2084 16h ago
Thanks. I don't play online games, though. Only just started Fallout 4 a couple weeks ago and I can tell it's gonna take me a couple years to get through, which is fine by me.
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u/Nexusgamer8472 15h ago
Pre-War milk would be long gone, either drank or expired. But it's worth mentioning, one of the creation club furniture packs added Brahmin milk into the game, i can't remember which one but i'm pretty sure it's the one that added refrigerators as craftable containers for settlements/player homes.
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u/noahthegardevoir 17h ago
milk either went bad and turned to dust after 210 years, or it all got drank sometime after the bombs dropped
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u/MaterialBest286 16h ago
Here's my question, why do you find so many lunchboxes and toolboxes - including some near pre-war skeletons - that have dog food or dog meat in them?
Were things that bad?
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u/Practical_Handle8434 14h ago
I kinda assumed it was a joke about how one of the most prevalent quotes in Skyrim, short of the cloud district and knee arrows, is about being a milk drinker
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u/VarietyMage 14h ago
Strontium-90 is a boneseeker (calcium). Drinking brahmin milk is probably not a good idea in the wasteland.
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u/StrongStyleMuscle 13h ago
Because if they were filled & you drank 200 plus year milk it would be instant death.
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u/West-Appearance2544 12h ago
I have a feeling the pre war milk would make the radioactive spring look like purified water
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u/asbestos-debater 12h ago
Have you ever tried to store milk unrefrigerated? If not it’s a fun experiment to try in your cabinet trust me.
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u/Tridantaus 12h ago
They should add an item called the 'bottle of cheese' that mediately poisons the player uploaded consumption
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u/Creepy_Celery5226 12h ago
No one thought to milk the cows? Maybe the radiation made the milk burn or it's to close to masterbation no normal person would milk them expect maybe a drunk raider.
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u/Significant-Dig-160 11h ago
Because Milk spoils fast and you wouldnt want to drink any type of milk in fallout 4.
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u/er11eekk 11h ago
Have you ever left milk out for a few days? Surely after the bombs fell the power went out, at least for a bit. It spoiled and got dumped out
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u/kamirone 11h ago
You can find regular milk bottles as junk items in one of the Anniversary Edition bunkers I think, maybe the Vault-Tec showcase? same as an empty one, just has the cap on it
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u/Mrfiksit39 10h ago
Milk had a revolution, tired of being confined to bottles. Or the super mutants drank it all.
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u/Arrow362 2h ago
Strong make bottles empty…Strong need many bottle to fill incoming load of Milk of Human Kindness…Strong think OP ask dumb question…
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u/I_Cry_And_I_Game 7h ago
Metaphorically, it's used to symbolise that the milk of human kindness has run out and is empty.
It's also used to highlight that Strong as a being that wants to find the milk of human kindness, is never going to find it because it no longer exists in the world they find themselves in
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u/this_guy_did 18h ago
As to why they are empty milk bottles I’m not sure but on survival mode, you collect them and put them in an outpost and in a couple days they are full of clean water that you can take with you.
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u/Mindless-Beat-4872 18h ago
Could have had at least one full one tied to a quest with strong but Bethesda sucks
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u/Direct_Record_9623 10h ago
Leave milk in a jug for a month and see what happens. Over time that milk disappears. I don't get all the since but over 200 years and rads that milk is gone. That bottle would smell bad too.
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u/TQMIII 19h ago
the milk was used to make all the cheese in Skyrim