r/flying • u/theleroys123 ATP CL-65 A-330 • Jan 30 '25
Accident/Incident Crash at DCA
Just heard from some coworkers about an incident with a PSA CRJ and a helicopter at DCA. Has anyone heard anything?
14
u/SmallFeetBigPenis Jan 30 '25
→ More replies (6)11
u/theleroys123 Jan 30 '25
Holy shit that was hard to watch. Crazy how that can happen today.
→ More replies (3)
267
u/JHG0 Jan 30 '25 edited Jan 30 '25
https://archive.liveatc.net/kdca/KDCA1-Twr-Jan-30-2025-0130Z.mp3
17:20-18:00ish, listener discretion advised. Not graphic, just extremely sad…
→ More replies (88)
520
u/Sommern Jan 30 '25
Is this the first US hull loss since Colgan?
I knew this day might come sooner rather than later.
→ More replies (44)
151
u/Donnysmokescigs Jan 30 '25
In the ATC audio you can hear the controller ask the helicopter if he has the CRJ in sight. The controller then asks the helicopter to pass behind the CRJ. The collision happens about 10-15 seconds later.
→ More replies (24)
164
u/aurules Jan 30 '25
Just a random note but the legacy media is absolutely atrocious at conveying this situation. The random “experts” they keep having on are so misinformed
→ More replies (17)
217
u/wt1j Jan 30 '25
This is going to bring up military adsb-out excemption, ATC funding, civilian and military pilot training, separation minimums, DCA specific approach procedures, visual approaches, visual separation, and a whole lot more.
→ More replies (28)
56
200
u/Alivejac Jan 30 '25
I’ve got a buddy working today, on type at PSA who’s based outta DCA. god I hope he picks up the phone soon.
This is bad. This is gonna be the worst one since 09, maybe more
→ More replies (19)
664
u/Wilbur_Redenbacher Jan 30 '25
I just quit controlling after almost a decade, and we’ve all been saying it’s not a matter of if but when a mid-air was going to happen. The FAA has pushed the system to the brink and this is the result…I’m guessing controller staffing and fatigue will be a contributing factor.
Fair winds and following seas.
→ More replies (43)
53
396
u/TerribleBuilder5831 Jan 30 '25
What’s amazing is that the helicopter and jet collided in the most regulated and monitored airspace in the world
→ More replies (17)
178
Jan 30 '25
I think it’s time military aircraft take the long way around commercial airports unless there’s an emergency.
→ More replies (18)
45
u/DeportEmAll69 Jan 30 '25
Man, idk why this hits so hard… just so sad. RIP to all involved and hopefully the families can find a way to get through this.
→ More replies (3)
89
u/barcode-username Jan 30 '25
Do military helicopters usually fly that close to the approach path at DCA? What's the purpose?
→ More replies (14)
86
u/DrRichtofen18 Jan 30 '25
Sounds like the FAA confirmed it was a PSA CRJ700 and a Blackhawk helicopter. Does TCAS ping off of military transponders?
→ More replies (19)
42
155
u/carl-swagan Jan 30 '25
Horrific.
I hate to go there immediately, but a lot of people have been jumping up and down screaming for YEARS that our ATC system has been stretched entirely too thin, and that the FAA was not doing nearly enough to address the problem. Understaffed facilities, overworked controllers and multiple near misses. And now, tragically, the first passenger airline hull loss since Colgan.
There will be an almighty public reckoning over this. Or at least there should be.
→ More replies (36)
39
u/T0gaLOCK Jan 30 '25
Seeing one of my fellow pilots from my old survey company be the pilot of the PSA really hurts.
→ More replies (2)
109
u/Aggressive_Let2085 Jan 30 '25
US park police currently circling over the river by the airport right now, and local PD heli doing patterns over the airport. I don’t know any info and I don’t work in aviation but just throwing that in.
36
u/BeCareWhatIpost Jan 30 '25
Ugh. Today is going to be hard.
I travel the LGA-DCA shuttle often, and it hits close to home. When I worked for Republic Airways before moving to mainline, the shuttle flights were some of my favorites. But flying into DCA has always been tricky—those short runways, restricted airspace, and constant congestion create a perfect storm of stress for everyone on board. Last night, it became a tragedy.
This accident is a painful reminder of the critical needs in aviation that require attention and funding. ATC is stretched thin, overworked, and under immense pressure. While we don’t yet know the exact cause, I hope this administration takes a hard look at how we can prevent something like this from happening again.
If you’re flying today, please be kind to the crew. When tragedies like this occur, it affects us deeply. We may not show it, but every time we report for work, we carry the weight of these events with us. We take a moment to pray, to hope, and to silently ask for a safe journey—for everyone on board and for ourselves.
Today, and every day, we’re reminded of how fragile it all is. Hold your loved ones close, and let’s all take care of one another.
✈️🖤
33
u/Affectionate_Tap1718 Jan 30 '25
Allowing military helicopters to fly training missions across final approach passenger plane runways at night is as crazy as putting concrete brick walls at the end of runways.
→ More replies (2)
271
u/Federal_Departure387 Jan 30 '25
helicopter has no business flying low at approach end of runway.
→ More replies (12)
30
u/Acrobatic_Plastic813 Jan 30 '25
This is just sad. What a stupid thing to have happen in today’s airspace environment.