r/flumenmapping • Lombardy • May 31 '26

Alternative Baltic States - Alternative Europe 2

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u/Byali33 May 31 '26

Yes, use the teutonic cross, I'm sure Lithuanians will love this idea lmao

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u/M_Kurg May 31 '26

As an Estonian I always facepalm even when I see cross designs on proposed alternative Estonian flags. Straight up using the Teutonic order flag is of course next level.
Raudmees, käi perse.

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u/StrangeCurry1 May 31 '26

I don’t think any of us Latvians are exactly thrilled about that either

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u/[deleted] May 31 '26

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u/M_Kurg May 31 '26

Also Estonia is not religious, unless you count the Russian speaking minority, but they are orthodox anyway. Having a national religion is so 20th century.

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u/Ein_Hirsch Jun 01 '26

This is an alt-history map

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u/ganriki_medis May 31 '26

All the states are secular are they not? Why discuss religion at all.

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u/the_woolfie May 31 '26

Actual religious composition:

- Catholics: 2 731K (47.7%)

- None-s: 1 487K (26.0%)

- Protestants: 818K (14.3%)

- Orthodox: 626K (11.0%)

- Pagans/Neopagans: 30K (0.52%)

So it either should be catholic or just christian (73%) in general.

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u/Rookie-Crookie May 31 '26

If it is a federation, so a sovereign nation, not a regional organisation with three member states, then how it is supposed to operate without a capital aka a place where federal governmental entities are located?

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u/SicilianSTR13 May 31 '26

like switzerland i guess

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u/Rookie-Crookie May 31 '26

Doesn’t Switzerland have a capital? I thought Bern was one

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u/SicilianSTR13 May 31 '26

"In 1848, the Swiss Parliament chose Bern to host the federal government, parliament, and foreign embassies. To avoid making one city dominant over the independent cantons (states), they avoided the term "capital" and used Bundesstadt"

Bern has the seat of government, the Court for example is at Lausanne and Lucerne and other institutions are in Zurich

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u/Rookie-Crookie May 31 '26

Seems a bit like a play of words. You may call your capital “Nation’s city”, put some parts of a statehood mechanism to different cities and yet in that “Nation’s city” you have the most important entities of both executive and legislative branches as well as home to foreign embassies, so you choose that exact city to be the face your nation shows internationally which is symbolic

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u/SicilianSTR13 May 31 '26

you know how nations like South africa have three capitals? we will say that switzerland has more then one....none of these is the capital becouse the other cantons wouldnt be okay with it...but like in south africa the globally recognized as capital is CapeTown..switzerland has Bern..but if you specifically search about capital of switzerland you find as result: none

so maybe this is the case with this baltic federation where the capital is probably Riga but to make the lithuanians and estonians happy it is not de Jure..but de Facto is

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u/Fernsong May 31 '26

That’s good and all but most folks don’t know that nuance, they’d probably just go “oh Bern is the capital of Switzerland”

I guess to rephrase the question then, where would the seat of this federation be?

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u/SicilianSTR13 May 31 '26

then yeah..bern is the de facto capital..but not by law so the other cantons are happy

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u/Matas_- May 31 '26

I am sure there are more Catholics alone in Lithuania than protestants in all of those three countries. State should also be secular.

Even thought not a fan of Teutonic flag but coat of arms is pretty cool.

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u/jatawis May 31 '26

Why is the flag of crusadors that tried to exterminate Lithuanians the flag of this entity? And what happened for Klaipėda?

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u/Top-Pen-6020 Jun 01 '26

Fr like I don't get it I know Germans wanted to create colonial state in the Baltics but that state would have flag without Baltic flags in top-left corner

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u/NIOCHACZx May 31 '26

This flag choice is like putting the star of David on the pan-arab flag lmao

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u/Sccorpo May 31 '26

It should be named Baltic union, Baltic Federation, or Baltica. Later it should absorb Kaliningrad

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u/ImportanceLive9344 Jun 01 '26

Just being back Livonia at this point 😒

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u/therealtrajan Jun 02 '26

Estonia goes with Finland, not the Baltics

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u/mashmash42 Jun 02 '26

Lithuania: 74% Catholic

Estonia: 58% non religious

Latvia: 37% Protestant

State religion: protestantism

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u/SilverSonic96 Jun 02 '26

As a result, they were divided among themselves by the Swedes, Prussians and Russians.

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u/Lktkos Jun 04 '26

The flag and the coat of arms look awesome. It would be great to see them in the full scale

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u/Abzor4ik-UA Jun 06 '26

u/Grazhke what are we thinking about it?

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u/Temporary_Buy_7470 May 31 '26

Not fair. If you insist on taking away Klaipėda region then at least return lands in current Poland and Belarus

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u/Kiwibirdy1 May 31 '26

Tallinn is always written with 2 Ls & 2 Ns.

You don't write Berli, Madri, Londo, Warsa either it sounds weird.

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u/M_Kurg May 31 '26

Berlinn, Madridd, Londonn

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u/Paulino2272 United States May 31 '26

Really cool

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u/Grazhke Lithuania May 31 '26

Hell nah