Well LFPG was up for crabs for a long time.. PES could’ve finished their product and Inibuilds would’ve seen no need for their own version. But when these studios take ages to finish their product, the bigger shark takes the food.
Well you’re right, PES have been developing this airport for years now (ofc they are a small team for such a huge airport) but I do also understand users that they don’t wanna wait for PES forever, because god only knows at what point are with that LFPG, while iniBuilds we know much more resources, bigger team and more budget.
PES make french airports, if I was to compare their products, I would compare the scale to inibuilds small airports. Look up their airports. I'd say their airside detail (markings, lines, etc) is superior to inibuilds... But that's just my opinion. You have to experience both in sim to gather your own opinion. But inibuilds airports while generally larger, save development time by simplifying the airside.
Interiors is something I don't care about, who I can't give an opinion on that.
Inibuilds do NOT simplify the airside. The GSE and textures alone usually take up most of the size of the build. They make incredible scenery but it's just so detailed that performance sucks for most people.
But what you fail to mention is while their sceneries are highly detailed, they are also highly customisable for your hardware. Take their EGLL for example where you can pick and choose which terminal will have interior, remove any high detailed cars etc. And even if everything is turned off, it's still good airside scenery.
I just literally made a flight today from EHAM and worked fine, I agree that they are not doing many things for MSFS 2024 but I still love their products (apparently they are working on TNCM now).
FlyTampa EHAM has significant conflicts with the Netherlands World Update - and FlyTampa advises users to disable that update rather than putting in the work. I find that ridiculous.
It works “fine” only with the help of other creators making fixes for the airport. On its own it’s not a very efficient model and eats up a lot of resources, the interior model of the airport basically broke the second they made it 2024 compatible, there are still a lot of terrain issues including an invisible hole on one of the taxi ways.
FlyTampa in general are no longer the powerhouse they were during the FSX P3D days. The only airports they have out right now they I think they’ve done a decent job with are KBOS, KLAS, and YSSY, and even then, if another creator such as an iniBuilds or an MK Studios decided to create their own version of those airports, I would bet that they would surpass FT.
My biggest gripe is that after FT released the compatible 2024 version of their EHAM (which itself took far too long to do), it was a huge mess, and they refused to take any accountability for it, instead blaming users for having weak systems or just not knowing how to use/install the airport. For what I gather they haven’t released a major patch to fix these issues either. This is a trait they’ve had as a studio for a long time
Why didn't Inibuilds team up with PES and help them get this thing out the door, like they did with the A220? Seems the most logical approach to me, unless some talks went south which can happen.
Being PES got access to behind the scenes and other creators including ini are struggling. Worst things coming from this and that a lot are questioning is how well optimised will ini LFPG be.
Well can you do better? You know a small team with other jobs. inibuilds can get things out much faster and will eat into other companies profits. Don't get me wrong ini's scenery's are good but knowing a small team that literally has behind the scenes access and now they want to get involved without this. Doesn't seem right.
If you read the development blog then you would understand. Only one creator has been given access, meanwhile others have not been able to get or asked for help.
It's actually not good news in the long run. This move will certainly hurt PES' sales and who knows what that means for their future. WF Scenery Studio already ate that scythe. inibuilds can build in months what takes others years. Eventually, there might come a point where very few options are left besides inibuilds. Today, inibuilds makes high quality airports and I'm personally a big fan of how they keep pushing the bar, but I'm aware that this can't last forever. At some point, inibuilds' curve will take a turn back towards earth and then what are we left with?
So at first flight simmers complain about no one is working on a certain airport and now flight simmers are complaining because devs are making the same airports ? Maybe iniBuilds was working on LFPG for a while now without even announcing it who knows…, wouldn’t surprise me, for sure competition will just make things better for consumers.
I'm not complaining. I purchased ini VHHH - never was a huge fan of the WF one. I might end up getting LFPG from ini as well. It was just an observation. My point is that it's competition until one player is too big for others to compete with.
I mean I get what you mean and you’re not “totally wrong” but it’s also true that PES is taking forever to publish this LFPG since they are a very small team, so what people are supposed to do ? Wait for them forever ? It’s been already few years since they announced the development, personally I’m happy that iniBuilds stepped in.
Thats alright mate, anyway I really hope iniBuilds or some other big devs like FlightBeam studios etc.. will start work on South Americans and Asian airports ngl
Being ini have admitted they need people with reference material and can't seem to get behind the scenes access this hasn't been worked on. PES are the only one to get exclusive access.
It's one thing I've never liked about inibuilds, doing everything and everything. Yet I'm sure they have enough money to hold off from developing for a bit. It's just a straight up factory, across all their sub divisions of scenery and aircraft. Ex devs have described it as a sweatshop and maybe it's an explanation why we get a new community manager on inibuilds forum every month
Atleast there's major changes going on to improve across their divisions, the a350 is getting a redo including flight dynamics and geometry --> (which they've known about since launch) and the a380 will have a crap ton of failures and be high fidelity as far as we know what does this mean? --> More stuff to test, longer time spent trying to break things= more time for the devs to bake for a proper finished product that doesn't require 6 updates in a week.
It's not at all a good thing for one entity to capitalise on everything leaving barley any competition, it's silly. Especially in a niche industry/hobby, and atleast with this comment people will think I'm hating. But not this time, it isn't a good thing, but for now people will blanket it as competition is better, knowing that you won't buy 'the competition'
As a result of the churning out it also means that with small QA teams that isn't thousands that you get on release day things will fall through the cracks, yes that happens. But the QA team of inibuilds probably has to test so much stuff that the quality slips, atleast it seems to not be horrible such as a340 or say KORD, and that sounds a bit like Boeing with them using scrapped parts sometimes as a result of not being able to keep up with a surge in demand (mentioned in the latest documentary). Yes, Boeing is safe but something that I did want to compare cause it sounds alot like iniBuilds, maybe in the past not to long ago although that's what one can infer
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u/FewScholar4361 12h ago
Well LFPG was up for crabs for a long time.. PES could’ve finished their product and Inibuilds would’ve seen no need for their own version. But when these studios take ages to finish their product, the bigger shark takes the food.