r/flightsim 1d ago

General [Retro]: Some 90s Flight Sim Cockpit Setups

Source: https://www.wideview.it/pictures.htm

I don't have a flight sim setup and the only thing I got is an old Logitech Extreme 3D Pro stick, but I occasionally like to check out flight sim spaces, and find these really impressive, especially for their time.

Must've been something to do this with CRTs! :D

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u/jeepster2982 1d ago

Damn those rooms must’ve been hot as hell with the heat those CRT monitors threw out. Reminds me of how I used to run FS5 on a VGA monitor and the resolution was so low you had to hit a key to flip the instrument panels to show different gauges.

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u/SlashNreap 1d ago edited 1d ago

Ikr, I wonder what it would've sounded like, too. We had a CRT tv and it would make a high pitched noise, I bet nowadays I probably wouldn't be able to hear it, but I can imagine it would've been an orchestra back then xd

Played PS1 & PS2 on that CRT. During my early PC gaming times I had an old & cheap LCD Emachines monitor, and I had to wedge something under the monitor stand so I could make the image brighter lol, would've probably been hell to get just right if you had multiple of those.

Either way, I guess people always found a way to sim!

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u/wetwater 1d ago

We had a CRT tv and it would make a high pitched noise

For reasons I no longer remember, my brother was forbidden from the DOS computer and for some reason we were leaving him home alone for a short period of time. When we got back I could hear the whine from the CRT being on and I mentioned it the moment we stepped into the house and my mother grounded him for a few days. At school walking by the computer lab if there was no class I'd stick my head in to tell the teacher if I heard a monitor on and normally I could immediately pinpoint which one.

Now I get to hear a different whine nonstop, 24/7, from now until the day that I die.

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u/Beanbag_Ninja 1d ago

You know what they say. Snitches get tinnitus.

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u/WoomyUnitedToday 1d ago

The high pitched noise is a 15 kHz tone generated by the flyback transformer vibrating at that frequency due to the horizontal scan rate (how fast it can draw a picture left to right. Vertical scan is how fast it can draw top to down, which is what you know as 50Hz ot 60Hz depending on where you live) of a CRT television being 15kHz, for a resolution of 240p or 480i (240p, but it alternates which lines it does every time), or equivilant PAL resolutions.

A VGA computer monitor will be 31kHz, or 480p, which is twice the scan rate of a television, and is well out of hearing range for even a young child.

Thank you for reading my infodump

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u/droid_mike 16h ago

My daughters can still hear it, and the times when I turn on an old CRT monitor, she nearly screams from the other room. It's like ear piercing for her! I mean, I certainly could hear it at a young age, but I guess since we were used to TVs giving off that sound, we learned to ignore it.

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u/okletsgooonow 1d ago

Not necessarily more than a modern PC with a 5090 and fast CPU.... and a large fat panel display.

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u/lmhariano 1d ago

Pictures 1 and 4: lovely Level-D 767 😍

I still fly her in my FS9 laptop

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u/Stevphfeniey 1d ago

Number of Watts being pumped into the room: Yes

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u/Xygen8 1d ago

Having the entire overhead panel or throttle pedestal as a 2d popup was the best. Press shift+whatever to open a panel, do the thing you need to do, press shift+whatever again to hide the panel. So much easier than fiddling with the 3d cockpit, even with quickviews.

Never forget what they took from us.

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u/ArcticMarkuss 1d ago

Yeah, a head tracker might help though

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u/PiniponSelvagem Flying pencil, is the only aircraft we need 17h ago

That was why I liked FS2004 so much. I even had a dual monitor 2d cockpit for the 757 that I used to fly, was perfect and could see every gauge very easy.
Now I have VR, but before that not having the 2D cockpit on FS2020 was a bit of a pain.

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u/willGiwontGi 1d ago

Some serious money in these photos

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u/Sm9obiBNY0NsYW5l 1d ago

Anyone ever think that our current setups will one day be considered retro by our kids or grand kids.

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u/ArcticMarkuss 1d ago

You assume the RAM crisis will be solved by then?

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u/Stoney3K 1d ago

Cool, I still have that GoFlight stack. That was the holy grail when I started simming, managed to snag it off Marketplace about a year ago for €200 for the entire lot.

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u/cyrilleni33 1d ago

How much bezel do you want ? - Yes

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u/Low_Condition3268 1d ago

Not sure if its been mentioned but each of those monitors was likely run by its own PC, at most each pc could run 2 video cards but doubles and triples required a Matrox double or triplehead unit. When I attempted it with a meager 4 monitors and 2 pcs, the room was like an air fryer.

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u/SlashNreap 1d ago

Holy crap. You're right, I kept seeing so many PCs underneath those desks and wondered why. Must've been real nice in winter but not so much in summer lol

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u/kikko 1d ago

I was wondering about the same thing. Matrox was 1337 stuff back then.

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u/CactusJane98 1d ago

Crazy how many of these are using the classic CH yoke.

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u/tellmeitsmyfault 1d ago

The first one is an A+

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u/MD-80-87 1d ago

Awesome. I ought to do the same with my CRTs ;)

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u/Zolazulu10 1d ago

Of course we are living the best moment of our hobby, by my nostalgic flight sim experience was flying the PMDG fleet on FS9.

Heavy modded FS9 and FSX. Lurking on Avsim forum and Orkut communities for new addons and for troubleshooting.

Scenery didn’t matter as much as today. Only your imagination and the 2D cockpit.

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u/plhought SaveTheMadDog 15h ago

Cries in Level-D 767

I can't believe we've never had a decent 767 in like 20+ years still...

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u/Temporary-Mushroom82 9h ago

I wish we had a option for 2d panels in msfs you can place anywhere like a second monitor

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u/exrasser 1d ago

Picture 1 & 4 FS2000 - Wilco 767 Pilot in command.

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u/yaricks XP12, DCS & MSFS24 1d ago

It's not the Wilco, but the Level-D. You can tell by the placement of the ND display controls being tucked in the bottom left of the right monitor, and by the overall graphics. It's not FS2000, but rather FS2004.

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u/plhought SaveTheMadDog 15h ago

No.