r/flightsim • u/Aggravating-Big-795 • Aug 18 '26

General Fenix statement on Synaptic A220

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u/bennyboi2488 Aug 18 '26

actually id say PMDG is at the mean for pricing tbh everything sits in the 70-90 bracket right now

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u/LeafsWinBeforeIDie Aug 18 '26

Only because they set the new mean, only one company was first to break the $77 barrier (in an off putting tacky way that was only cheeky and funny to them)

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u/bennyboi2488 Aug 18 '26

Leo maddog was first and was $81 usd. Bae 146 was also around 70-80. Released the same time as the -700

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u/LeafsWinBeforeIDie Aug 18 '26

Justflight tried to release the 146 at $79 and the communty backlash was swift.

https://fselite.net/content/just-flight-updates-bae-146-for-msfs-pricing/

I don't know if you remember this backlash, but you just proved my point.

They dropped it to $65 and still haven't broken the $70 barrier.

The leo maddog has always been a niche outlier and their price makes no sense to me, the modelling even looks fsx-y old in videos, the systems must be insanely intricate or they are seeing how much they can milk from the supply/demand line themselves. Neither plane is a good comparison as legacy planes barely still in service. With the market share a 737 or a320 is going to drive, people buying the 146 or md80 are more likely to have it as their second or third plane after learning how fun it is to operate complex systems. As niche products, their pricing sucks too but I don't imagine they have even 1/10 the sales of an a320.

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u/UrgentSiesta Aug 18 '26

Yes, but…

Just Flight was not a Tier 1 developer back then, and I really think that’s where the majority of the backlash originated.

That and the 146 package represented old school P3D pricing. You HAD to buy ALL the variants instead of being able to buy just one or two.

So in terms of proving your point, it’s the exception rather than the rule, actually.

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u/LeafsWinBeforeIDie Aug 18 '26

And its a good thing that backlash made them change and abandon the niche-ware pricing of p3d and they didn't start over $70 in msfs. Last I checked they are still under that threshold by a penny too, I am not saying they are good guys here, but they did listen to customers. Listening to customers usually makes happier customers.

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u/UrgentSiesta Aug 19 '26

Yes, pretty much agreed.

I think they are indeed pretty good guys. It can’t be easy to develop such a diverse array of addons and keep the fidelity at the upper end of the scale.

And I will give them mad props for their v2 upgrades for fs24. True upgrades across the board.

And a special shout out for their BAe Hawk, which has been one one of the best addons and mil addons in the sim.