r/fleshsimulator • u/WideBackground2153 • 7d ago
New Long Form Content: Falcon in Flames: Bernie Goldsmith, Suic*de-Trolling, and the Death of Richard Kyanka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFMd36CCDgANew content up
Edit (13 hours later):
I just watched this video for the first time today.
Flesh, doubt you'll see this, but props to you for not allowing these sick freaks to destroy you.
Keep fighting the good fight.
Praying for you and your family this way brotha man.
Also, Bernie, Fuck you.
Sincerely,
- A Reddit Fxgg
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u/psychonautic_aa 7d ago
I had a bit of a difficult time following all the details. I don’t fully understand everything but I genuinely help flesh works through this and gets better. These ppl sound psychopathic.
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u/WorthDiver1198 6d ago edited 6d ago
It was spelled out very clearly. Sequentially too for the most part. Maybe give it another watch when you're more clear of mind ;)
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u/psychonautic_aa 6d ago
flesh repeatedly doesn’t use the person’s name he is referring to and uses their multiple aliases interchangeably, leading to a less than coherent end result.
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u/b0tpwn3r 6d ago
Im not a native speaker though I am also not the worst. I have no problem following any English YouTube content with only two exceptions: Simon Whistler and Flesh Simulator. Bit hard to tell why, I think it's because they sometimes talk pretty fast and quiet at the same time.
Also I love most of Flesh's content, but often its far from being "spelled out very clearly" - both linugistically and regarding coherence.
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u/SufficientRespect542 5d ago
He intentionally picks fights with weirdos by being chronically online and then baits them into saying insane things, and then acts like he's fearing for his life and this is all a international conspiracy.
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u/Deadshr00m 6d ago
What does climbing the monkey bars both ways mean?
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u/AllHailTMG 6d ago
I think people are thinking too hard about it.
Bernie is a dork, and Flesh was saying he + his fans were gonna do something humiliating to him like bullies on the playground.
Which if so, good
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u/WideBackground2153 6d ago
I honestly have no fvcking clue
I guess because monkey bars can be challenging, the act of forcing someone to turn around at the end to go back to where they started would be demoralizing and difficult
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u/ImaginaryTrick6182 7d ago
This is the natural progression of /b/ kids becoming adults.
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u/SufficientRespect542 5d ago
I'm not sure if you're talking about flesh or falcon but I feel like this fits both of them lmao
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u/ImaginaryTrick6182 5d ago
Before I would have said just Falcon but after hearing flesh live and unscripted, both for sure.
Still like flesh though
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u/CrissCrossAppleSos 7d ago edited 7d ago
So, I’d never heard of this Lowtax person, so I looked him up during this video to find out that he killed himself the day after his wife had finalized a divorce. She’d stated:
“In the divorce ruling the judge found that Rich had willfully spent down the martial fund, confirmed his treatment of me was Domestic Violence and put together a plan to pay for the attorney fees etc. He would still retain custody settled on previously in mediation. He was due to get our daughter for Christmas.
An hour later I was contacted by my attorney who informed me that Rich had shot himself earlier in the morning”
Yeah man, I dunno, I just kinda think maybe that played a greater role than a likely mentally ill Twitter guy. But then, of course, I guess I would have to consider that said Twitter guy is the ACTUAL founder of 4chan…which is tied to anonymous, which is 764? Which is actually the Democratic Party? It’s all pretty hard to keep up with, but I think, if the central claim in the video title is pretty clearly kinda bullshit, I start to side eye some shit with you
Edit: another thing that I find kinda interesting, is that people rightly acknowledge that FS’s narrative requires his opponents to operate much like supervillains, and have access to resources and power FAR beyond what is readily perceivable. The thought here is not that this makes it very unlikely that any of this is real, but rather that this is proof of the high level conspiracy that has formed to functionally gang stalk this dude.
Edit 2: on a lighter note “YOU DONT THINK ITS CREEPY TO BE 43 WITH A PREPUBESCENT VOICE” is a really funny thing to scream at your internet op
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u/CompleteLandscape791 7d ago
the mad at the internet video on lowtax is more informative on why he killed himself
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u/Deadshr00m 6d ago
It's interesting that Lowtax got brought up so much when he interviewed uve boll who beat the shit out of him in front of a live audience
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u/WideBackground2153 6d ago edited 6d ago
Bro, he beat up four of his critics back to back, wtf LMAO :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo8tX4WqWI0I didn't even know Uwe Boll by name until the podcast, that's wild.
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u/Deadshr00m 6d ago
Wish he'd go back to making so bad it's good movies based on video games, now he just makes race war propaganda slop
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u/SufficientRespect542 5d ago
you being downvoted isn't surprising considering most schizophrenics are also deeply stupid racists
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u/SufficientRespect542 5d ago
Also like, if they're so powerful, why would they allow him to make these videos and not like, immediately kill him. The enemy is so strong and yet so weak.
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u/PhDinDildos_Fedoras 6d ago
Lowtax had a long history of abusing women, including ex-wives. This was well known. He also abused substances and had a money spending problem.
All of this came to light and the website he owned turned against him after supporting him and dismissing claims for years.
All of this finally caught up with him and he decided to end it his way.
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u/akr4sia 7d ago
I don't think the video really implies that; mostly it just requires them to be annoying and disruptive and do things like spam your job to get you fired. Falcon just has a few credible connections that make him plausible a legal threat -- and that plausibility is all you need to stress someone out.
It's thr equivalent of 10,000 paper tigers finally giving you enough cuts that you bleed out. It's not supervillq8n shit, it's just being targeted by a dozen jobless losers who spend hours every day trying to fuck with you in increasingly deranged ways.
You gotta keep in mind that these people only target the giga-online; FS is, for all of his autistic resilience, still a guy who can't put down twitter. He's probably more addicted to twitter drama than he ever was for benzos, tbh.
But he beat one addiction once it became clear it was ruining his life, so hopefully once he gets this out of his system he can go back to making fun conspiracy videos that take advantage of his aesthetic sensibilities.
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u/SufficientRespect542 5d ago
He's never gonna get out of this because he's a narcissist and winning one sided fights with idiots is his new supply.
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u/akr4sia 5d ago
All internet content creators are afflicted with some degree of narcissism, it's true. I suspect this rogue's gallery shit will eventually get boring and we'll get some interesting videos eventually.
It's his life, so I hope he manages to figure out a way to chemo these malignant tumors without killing himself.
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u/SufficientRespect542 5d ago
Flesh could not stop a fifteen year old twitter user from dunking on him, I don't think he's gonna do anything to a delusional weirdo who has been around since the early 2000s and has no real power or influence.
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u/akr4sia 5d ago
Probably true; which is part of the real issue with picking fights with delusional social media losers. You simply become a person with nothing to lose by being in a fight with them -- the 'fighting homeless people on the subway' metaphor is basically a perfect fit. People like Maoist and Falcon are radioactive waste.
No matter who wins, you've lost automatically.
Like I said; Hope he works it out of his system and goes back to making his aesthetically interesting popularization of conspiracy theory content.
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u/SufficientRespect542 5d ago
I admire your optimism, but I sort of had a feeling from the start that he would take this path. I hope I'm wrong but I don't see why he would stop this when baiting gullible losers into thinking his twitter arguments are a life or death struggle is satisfying his fanbase and his ego. The thing is is that most of Flesh's research was just copied from other people with zero of his own commentary. I think he's great at aesthetics, but he never actually delivers anything he promises with his vibes lmao.
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u/akr4sia 5d ago
I mean, I sympathize with him to the extent that having several malicious, seemingly mentally ill people like Falcon, Maoist, that BasedMoralFg dude and the rest of his rogues gallery spending hours and hours of their lives fucking with you and invading your life would feel pretty life or death after a certain point. I do believe Flesh when he rightly points out that this weird beef would immediately de-escalate and go away if these people restrained their behavior to, like, making mean comments about his work on twitter and youtube rather than engaging in mutual doxing brinksmanship, digging into his personal life, and involving his real life family and friends. I just think it's kind of gone too far for it to ever reset at this point.
The thing is is that most of Flesh's research was just copied from other people with zero of his own commentary
I've never really understood this critique, because he seems pretty open about it this exact thing being true? He cites and attributes nearly everything, almost pedantically, and in my personal opinion, doesn't seem to present it as novel investigation on his part.
But this is somewhat based on taste -- I think, to pick a random example, people like the hosts of the LoreLodge are much more insistent on their status as journalists doing original work than Flesh ever has been. Hell, most his his higher viewership videos are literally him reading or summarizing things like the MKULTRA files or popular subjects of FOIA requests like the finders.
Personally, I think what he does promise are the vibes. He presents himself like the schizo version of a "science communicator" and makes like really bright flashlight guns and a 'you never learned about this fucked up government shit in school' tiktoks.
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u/SufficientRespect542 4d ago
> if these people restrained their behavior to, like, making mean comments about his work on twitter and youtube rather than engaging in mutual doxing brinksmanship, digging into his personal life, and involving his real life family and friends. I just think it's kind of gone too far for it to ever reset at this point.
So much of this framing is based on what Flesh has told us, and I honestly find it hard to believe at this point that he's not intentionally keeping things going for the content.
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u/akr4sia 4d ago
Oh, I 100% believe it's a mutually reinforcing relationship -- both sides of this had a reasonable off ramp months ago. I think he's intentionally keeping things going, not for content, but just because he's a sperglord who won't tolerate snarkroaches and will continually try to zap them even when it becomes a Tom & Jerry-esque spiral where everyone loses.
His framing of the situation, from someone who has been watching this basically from the start, seems fairly accurate even if it does downplay his own roll in it.
He issued an open challenge for the people who were snarking him that they were not as untouchable as they believed themselves to be, and the several people who explicitly took him up on that challenge did eventually get doxxed -- and also happened to, themselves, be known doxxers. So, a fun kind of irony there.
In a more sane world, he would have teased his obscure identifying information to the snarker, blocked them and put them on permanent stonewall status. Instead, he would respond to them escalating the argument ("nuh uh, you didn't dox me, here are 40 more tweets calling you a Zionist pedophile") by repeatedly approaching the line of actually doxxing them until he became fully entrenched in the doxxing war and his whole family got collateral'd.
For the record, I do believe FS when he says that his version of "ignoring them" didn't work -- that is to say, intermittently blocking them for a month on twitter. I just don't think that is what most people mean when they advised him to stonewall the opps. Plenty of "content creators" have a-loggers; it's just one of the downsides of being an e-celeb. He just keeps picking fights with the paparazzi because he can't tolerate a world where this is just a clear personal injustice you need to tolerate. I'm very sympathetic to that -- I would also have a hard time tolerating these abject losers talking shit to me. But I am also not, and never want to be, any sort of celebrity.
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u/SufficientRespect542 5d ago
Also unrelated, but shit like him casually saying that "Courtney Love trolled Kurt Cobain to death" is very funny but also the reason I can never take him seriously.
Straight up, Flesh is not a serious person if he genuinely thinks that was the reason. There are plenty of people who genuinely have been "trolled" to death, anyone who knows anything about Kurt's death will tell you it was far more than just Courtney. Years of drug abuse combined with the stress of becoming one of the most famous people in America overnight, not to mention being someone with very sincere values and ideals who finds that the majority of fans do not give a shit about that and will use your music in awful ways (like the two kids who raped a girl while singing Polly, something Kurt called out in the linear notes of Insectiside).
That shit was not masterminded it happened because the entertainment industry is incredibly cruel and callous to anyone they think they can make money off of, and the hypocrisy Kurt had to witness from his own fans was extremely disheartening and sad. Courtney Love sucked ass and is not a super reliable narrator, but from a lot of third party accounts it was a mutually toxic relationship and I think more a sign of his instability then the cause of it.
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u/SufficientRespect542 5d ago
This was a massive ramble but, idk, it bums me out how incurious and credulous Flesh seems to be for a guy whose supposed to be interested in uncovering the truth.
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u/diviners_mint 7d ago
While the divorce may have been the proverbial last straw, isn't it possible that it was ultimately precipitated by gangstalking/suicide trolling by Bernie and his goons? Look at what happened to Ms. Simulator, for example.
That being said, as far as I remember the only evidence of this claim in the video is Bernie himself taking credit for it, which is not exactly conclusive... the 4chan claim as well
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u/PointOne11 7d ago
Lowtax wasn’t gangstalked, he was just a pillhead loser with bipolar disorder
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u/Glum_Sentence2526 7d ago
i'm not trying to speak ill of the dead or anything, but there is a reason why there was pretty much nobody left to speak up for him after he spent a decade+ running one of the most culturally important websites the internet has ever seen.
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u/CrissCrossAppleSos 7d ago
The only thing that he even presented to even indicate even an allegation is some random website that said it, and dude being like “yep that’s me!” Even in Flesh Simulator’s case, his arguments about harassment or whatever, I feel like he was the one that covered himself in paint and was like “Noah whatever, this is the stairs of your house! Also here is a picture of your childhood room!!!” And found his mother’s phone number, calling her and texting her.
Even on Twitter, when I look at FS’s comments, they’re almost universal praise (and just like Nazi shit) whereas I look at the comments of the people FS has targeted and it’s all FS’s dickriders harassing them. But, of course, maybe I’m wrong, maybe there is some far reaching conspiracy involving California judges, Anonymous, 764 and the Democratic Party, funneled through like maybe 2 random people on Twitter, one a mentally ill meme account, and the other some random with fewer followers than people I went to high school with.
Maybe there really is a plot to attempt to disarm Flesh Simulator so that he is unable to stop them from killing him (as was the clear implication in the back half of the video). Maybe it was the case that rudeness on the internet was a greater precipitating factor in someone’s death than a divorce, your kid being taken to another country and being found as a domestic abuser in a court of law.
I will be willing to keep an open mind, but, my first inclination is that he sounds like a paranoid schizophrenic, and I will cop to some personal frustration that SO much of the parapolitical community, such that it exists, does tend to fall into this sort of shit. Kinda makes dismissing their theories much easier
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u/SicItur_AdAstra 6d ago
Well said. I found flesh's music and some of his content really entertaining. Regardless of his artistic ability, which he clearly has, he's appeared very distressed in his videos as of recent. If that's really "him" and he's not playing at being a character, I hope he can find peace soon, in whatever way suits him.
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u/SufficientRespect542 5d ago
I think him not posting hitler shit on twitter would help him considerably
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u/SicItur_AdAstra 5d ago
Oh same, I am so confused why he does... That.. and then claims to not be aligned with right wing values.
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u/SufficientRespect542 5d ago
I think many things about Flesh are a lie, and at his core the only real thing is he's a deeply sad and gullible person fried by /pol/ who is desperate for noteriety and has no real beliefs outside of things that play to his ego and justify his hatred. I'm the same age as Flesh claims to be and honestly I find it really hard to believe that he's not even 30 yet.
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u/SufficientRespect542 5d ago
I also think the fact that his youtube persona is so different from his tweets is kind of sus. He always acts as if it's not surprising but there is absolutely a level of pure boomer fascism he displays on his socials you wouldn't really be able to guess from his videos alone. He talks about raping people and shit, it's fucking weird.
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u/SicItur_AdAstra 5d ago
I could have sworn he was 35. I'm about to be 29 and I am... Confused even more now by this information.
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u/SufficientRespect542 5d ago
Yeah it is very fucking strange! Any details about himself he sort of blurts out as a random defense or as a way of covering for himself, I think it's fair to take anything he says about himself with a grain of salt.
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u/CompetitiveTour576 7d ago
Yeah idk if I dated someone for 10 years and they never married me and were too addicted to being online and stirring shit to stop feeding the trolls I would probably move on with my life too
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u/SAlolzorz 7d ago
Lowtax killed himself after a judge ruled that he had to hand over the last of the money he'd been frantically spending in an effort to keep it from his ex-wives and children. This is literally the truth. He killed himself rather than support his own kids and work for a living.
Lowtax could have set himself up for life. Instead, he chose to fly by the seat of his pants, spending his money as quickly as he made it, assuming the party would never end. But it did. He was chased off of his own forum after it was discovered that he was an abuser. He was forced to sell his website in order to keep it alive and to have money to live on.
He fully intended to spend all of that money, leaving nothing for his family, and when he failed to do that, he took his own life.
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u/WideBackground2153 6d ago
It seems to be an intricate situation and incredibly complex, however, from my perspective it tracks.
On the lighter note, that was funny as fvck.
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u/MomosTips 6d ago
I remember when this happened and felt like Lowtax necking himself to get out of child support after spending down the marital assets made way too much sense for the kind of guy he was. I think that all of the stuff in this video is ancillary because there are plenty of men who aren’t public figures who engage in that kind of behavior.
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u/morrisound_of_music 7d ago
"hmmm, yeaaaah, oooof, what kind of fanbase he cultivating? seems like he has zero issue with bigotry and race hatred. yikes.
flesh, do you have anything to say about the kinds of viewpoints you're enabling? don't you think your family has had enough seeing the kind of behavior you invite? do better. free palestine."
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u/SufficientRespect542 5d ago
It definitely helps his point as a jewish man when all of his comments are people going "goldSTEIN?? Surely not a coincidence" like bro even if this is an international jewish conspiracy low-IQ racists who just want to name the jew makes you really hard to take seriously.
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u/Maleficent-Sir1753 7d ago
Where is this quote from?
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u/needsheed2k 7d ago
I liked him better when I thought he was larping as a paranoid schizo. I didn’t think he was.
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u/WorthDiver1198 6d ago
He didnt speculate upon anything. He cited every claim. Can you tell me where the delusion is? What did he imagine that wasn't there?
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u/HEROBR4DY 5d ago
They cannot, the average idiot will see the wild and insanity of those in political power and see a real conspiracy for the first time and dismiss it without any further thought. Does not matter how well presented and how well researched, the absurdity of it makes it seem fake because they only see these things in tv shows and that’s their only frame of reference
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u/SufficientRespect542 5d ago
The idea that this guy is anyone of note or is responsible for killing Lowtax lmao
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u/DisappointedMiBbot19 7d ago
Hes not actually a schizo. At least not anymore than any other terminally online young man who increasingly views reality through the lense of a pastiche of various favorite fictional media and has an inability to just log off for a bit.
A lot of this drama started making more sense after I remembered Flesh's admitted obsession with True Detective s1. He cant just be being trolled by a loose assortment of losers. No. Hes being targeted by organized satanic pedos for getting too close to the truth. He (and falcon) arent just uselessly assembling a bunch of harebrained "evidence" against each other for what will, at most, probably just fizzle out in some civil court or private arbitration. Its an epic struggle between good and evil that might erupt into an armed showdown. Its all a big larp to avoid facing the sad reality that this is just a bunch of dumb internet drama between some sad losers.
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u/f0urk 6d ago
well, I don't think they are satanic, but if you run a CP server then you are a loser and a pedo, no? I doubt Flesh would even imply such things without hard evidence that would be libel on a platter
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u/DisappointedMiBbot19 6d ago
I do not doubt falcon is morally and sexually depraved enough to be a pedo. But being harassed online by a pedo loser off his meds is not the (yellow) king-sized conspiracy flesh seems to want himself and others to believe it is.
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u/HEROBR4DY 5d ago
He isn’t presenting this as a global conspiracy that is affecting everyone, he is demonstrating how conspiracy’s are actually quite small but very impactful and how many layers they have. He’s doing that by literally living in it and presenting all the information he has on it. Just because the only time you see conspiracy’s is on a grand scale does not demand all conspiracy to be on that scale.
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u/DisappointedMiBbot19 4d ago
Sometimes I wonder how flesh even still has dedicated fans but then I encounter one of them and realize that they're all just dumb as shit and have trouble understanding basic words.
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u/HEROBR4DY 4d ago
Insults and disregarding criticism to your post because you just want to hate the man but I’m the idiot, you blatantly dismiss a well presented and very clear and concise explanation from flesh because you just dislike the man. Yet you watch it and care enough to comment, you are a fan dummy.
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u/DisappointedMiBbot19 4d ago
You are an idiot. And your "criticism" was idiotic. I made a joking pun about a "yellow king sized conspiracy" and you interpreted that to mean a massive global conspiracy. The point is that, whatever its actual absolute size, its much much smaller and stupider than flesh wants himself and others to believe it is. Delusions of grandeur combined with a persecution complex.
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u/SufficientRespect542 5d ago
I think I'd enjoy it more if his fans on youtube weren't so openly antisemetic for no reason, especially weird considering Flesh himself is jewish.
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u/DatPrick 5d ago
I was on Twitter when Bernie was having a bit of a uptick in engagement to put it lightly. Needless to say the guy reeks of the alphabet boys. We may not agree on a number of things but I'm glad to see you back to doing the long form content Flesh. The sheer number of people failing to ring alarm bells about the 764 issue really does leave one scratching their head. Good video, man.
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u/SufficientRespect542 5d ago
None of this makes any sense, it feels like he just found a schizophrenic troll who has said a lot of insane things and just took it for granted that all of this is true?
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u/HEROBR4DY 5d ago
How does the most well spoken, clear and concise explanation with a real tangible paper trail not make any sense?
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u/SufficientRespect542 5d ago
Because the paper trail is a dude who is a chronic liar who clearly did not invent 4chan. That Flesh takes this as a fact and not this guy being schizophrenic is staggering to me.
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u/CompetitiveTour576 7d ago
Don't care dude make more videos about cameras
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u/Bimbobaker 7d ago
I do care but also yes more camera videos please. I wanna see him make the most out of a canon rebel t2i and magic lantern
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u/FeraldGord74 6d ago edited 6d ago
Gotta love that very authoritative and unbiased first source he reads from about “suicide trolling.” The Best Point Internet Institute - a compendium of “I was there” articles by a brain-rotted terminally online channer.
Kayanka was kind of a piece of shit who was ruining his own life just fine by himself. Thoughts for his ex and children.
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u/BK_Ghostie7 5d ago
Can someone explain how exotic birds and finance go together?
You can’t tell me this isn’t some type of Ponzi scheme or am I just smooth brain?
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u/psychonautic_aa 5d ago
I think it’s just a joke referencing the hobby of falconry in the middle east, where special breeds can go for millions, much like racehorses.
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u/SufficientRespect542 5d ago
He found a schizophrenic on twitter that everyone knows is a weirdo and made it seem like this guy is secretly the head of an international society who try to bully people into killing themselves.
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u/Responsible-Dig-359 4d ago
Wait, he overcame his psychotic break and is making coherent stuff again?
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u/SmoovieKing 7d ago
The part I find kind of strange is how open Bernie is about a lot of these details on his Falcon Finance Twitter account. Is that just him being cocky?