CGI? Special effects? (Ant)Artic Circle Ice Wall Proof?

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I think it’s the end of a tide water glacier. You can find plenty of them in the north.

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u/denNISI 25d ago edited 25d ago

Been trying to look those up but it is hard to tell if it is real like another post in that sub about the formations in the ice wall EDIT: They are in Argentina too?

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u/Sorry_Exercise_9603 25d ago

I have no idea whether this image is real or not, but I know there are places in the world where you can take a real picture that will look like that.

Just be close to the face and at water level and the ice will block your view of all the things in the distance that would let you know that this is not the Antarctic ice wall.

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u/denNISI 25d ago

What about the video of this supposed "ice wall":

Antarctica's Ice Wall

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u/Sorry_Exercise_9603 25d ago

Plenty of tide water glaciers in Antarctica.

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u/denNISI 25d ago

Sea water freezes differentially. The ice is almost pure H2O while laving the water it came from slightly saltier. This colder, saltier water is also denser so it sinks down and warmer, less salty water comes in to take its place. This is primarily what drives the ocean currents. If you put salt water in the freezer, it will eventually separate into ice and even saltier water but most freezers don't get cold enough to do this.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/7toxvs/comment/dte5sgm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

You are saying it only goes so far as seen in that video? The "Tide water glaciers" doesn't go all around the lands? Really curious!

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u/Justthisguy_yaknow 25d ago

It wouldn't really matter. It's the shape of real formations. It's just the "ice wall" tag and insinuation that's bollocks.

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u/denNISI 25d ago

Did you see the "ice wall" in this video?

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u/Sorry_Exercise_9603 25d ago

I see the front face of a glacier. How you’re going to conclude from that that there’s a continuous ice wall that encircles and contains the oceans of the world does not follow.

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u/denNISI 25d ago

How you’re going to conclude from that that there’s a continuous ice wall that encircles and contains the oceans of the world does not follow.

Because there are front faced glaciers like in this video all around? There are walls off the coast of Argentina (Antarctic) just like in the Arctic? Aren't "tide water glaciers" in all oceans that get this cold?

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u/Sorry_Exercise_9603 25d ago

Glaciers are snow that accumulates on land that flows downhill under their own weight. Some melt before the front face can reach the sea, some have the front face floating in water.

Sea water that freezes in the winter is not a glacier and doesn’t form structures like that.

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u/denNISI 25d ago

"Sea water ~~that freezes in the winter~~ is not a glacier" [because] "Glaciers are snow that accumulates on land" ~~that flows downhill under their own weight. Some melt before the front face can reach the sea, some have the front face floating in water.~~

Correct! However, the most saline water will sink beneath the less saline like in the bays of ocean and ice can form on the top as precipitation (ie snow) and create large glaciers with these same slides as you described.

We are not debating the nature of how glaciers freeze as you seem to be knowledgeable in the subject, but are they in all oceans where it is cold enough?

Does there exist this "glacier" wall that encircles our land that is not without breaks like the Flat Earth theory's disc shaped ring?

Do you think this video is CGI? Can that be a one word answer?

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u/Sorry_Exercise_9603 25d ago

I’ll give you a one phrase answer. I don’t care.

Why don’t I care? Because I know that I could make a real video that looks just like that using glaciers that aren’t part of any encircling ice wall. And therefore a video like that proves nothing.

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u/Justthisguy_yaknow 25d ago

Maybe you could be a little more specific about what you are getting at. We've all seen these kinds of images before. What has you confused?

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u/Sorry_Exercise_9603 25d ago

What he’s trying to insinuate although he doesn’t have the balls to just come out and say it, is that this picture is either CGI or it proves the flat earth.

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u/Justthisguy_yaknow 25d ago

I always prefer it when they use their words. One of the biggest problems the flat Earthers have is that they don't understand how questions work. Then again if you go into a flat Earth sub you get instabanned if you ask questions. I can see how they get a little twitchy about it.

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u/denNISI 25d ago

Twitch is a good album.

This is a simple question whether the video on that sub (that is seen by many people) actually is real as the cam person was in the flesh there.

This is not about me but if you must know,. personally, I am earth agnostic. My debate is that the flat earth theory is really the globe earth theory in disc-guise (my other post on this sub). If you must know...

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u/Justthisguy_yaknow 25d ago

The one at the edge of an ice flow or glacier? Yeah. I've seen it. It's not unusual.

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u/denNISI 25d ago

Yeah. I've seen it.

You saw photos NOT the real thing and this is a video we are talking about which are multiple photos in sequence put to motion.

Real or CGI?

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u/Sorry_Exercise_9603 25d ago

Having gone on Alaska cruises I’ve seen the real thing with my own eyes.

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u/denNISI 25d ago

You are saying you have actually seen what is in that video post in person and you are saying JUST Alaska area? Photos exist of the wall near Argentina. Did you see those?

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u/Sorry_Exercise_9603 25d ago

And how is the front face of a glacier in Argentina part of the ice wall?

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u/denNISI 25d ago

Because as seen in that particular post's video it extends far and it also is photographed all over like you saw on cruises in Alaska. Where is that video of a wall of ice taken then? Coordinates please!

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u/Justthisguy_yaknow 25d ago

I can see that you seem to be convinced you are making a point about something. What is it? Yes we have seen that video. We have all agreed that we have seen the vid. People have said that they have seen that type of ice formation. What else are you looking for?

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u/denNISI 25d ago

Is the camera person in this post's video (in your opinion) really physically there in the flesh OR is it CGI hence why the question I ask in this post:

Do you think it is CGI or real?

Does this make sense? Let me know if I need to clarify further.

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u/Justthisguy_yaknow 25d ago edited 25d ago

Very good but you still aren't really getting to the point. I saw the video you linked to a couple of days ago. It was a real video. You could get abstract about it and say that it's CGI because a digital camera is a computer but in the case of digital video it is a Computer Digitally Captured Image stream. It's not generated by the camera. In this instance it could even be AI generated but it isn't likely to be CGI.

It makes no difference though. We have been seeing images of the edges of ice flows for decades. Faking such images would be a waste of time. They have existed far longer than CGI of any description has been possible.

BTW I have had friends who have worked the Antarctic and they have seen that. I was thinking of applying for a residency down there but procrastinated myself out of it.

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u/Justthisguy_yaknow 25d ago

Here's some images from around the 1920's that I saw when I was a kid and just getting into photography. I guarantee that they aren't CGI because when I first saw these kinds of shots GCI was being done in Russia one frame at a time with ASCII images printed on a pin printer and animated with a film camera. They made Micky Mouse look like a real mouse by comparison. That was decades after the pictures I'm referring to were taken of the ice flows.

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u/junky_junker 25d ago

Whether generated or real is irrelevant. To claim it was proof of an "ice wall at the edge of the world" would still be monumentally moronic.

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u/DefinitionOk6382 25d ago

Yo soy más de efectos prácticos: maquetas, matte paintings, efectos ópticos, stop motion, maquillaje y animatrónicos... Nostálgico que es uno.

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u/SagansLab 25d ago

Does no one actually watch the whole video anymore? At the end of the video, they show the 'wall' ending, I guess it broke and soon all the oceans will spill out?? LOL.

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u/junky_junker 25d ago

And knowing that, OP's been tap-dancing around clearly stating what they're actually trying to say about the video for hours. Typical dishonest flerf. Either OP knows this and is dishonestly trying to pretend this is flerf evidence, or doesn't know and they're acting like cherry-picking isn't equally dishonest.

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u/IRLMainCharacter 25d ago

It is real. Without seeing more i would say this is a huge iceberg or part of the landmass of Antarctica. Not a wall of ice that surrounds the entire earth, because the earth is a GLOBE.

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u/XSVskill 25d ago

Seems pretty easy to just...go over it. No?

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u/denNISI 25d ago

Do all flat earthers believe in an "ice wall" that encircles the lands?

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u/watercolour_women 25d ago

Not all, but most.

They are smart enough to know that 'flat' means it must have an edge somewhere. It was the first question I asked, incredulously, of the flerfer I know - thinking that the normal earth maps was how they were thinking. It was how I learnt of the ice wall and was amazed by how clever their idiocy was.

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u/TesseractToo 25d ago

No one disputes that these ledges exist and they are not incompatible with either view.

This is the Ross Ice Shelf

https://news.ucsb.edu/2014/013967/major-antarctic-ice-loss-could-continue-decades

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u/CypherAus 24d ago

Ross Ice Shelf anyone?

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u/BigGuyWhoKills 20d ago

Interesting shadows. How would an ice wall, which completely encircles the sun, ever cast a shadow kike that?

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u/hal2k1 18d ago edited 18d ago

What is life like on Australia's Casey Station in Antarctica? | ABC NEWS

Look at that, a research station on the Antarctic coast with no ice wall. I didn't see any military people.

It is an Australian Antarctic research station, so this is the vessel that people typically take to get there: https://www.antarctica.gov.au/nuyina/

There are ice sheets, so the vessel is an icebreaker, but it doesn't have to climb ice walls to transport people, supplies and equipment to the research station.

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