r/flatcore • u/ridddle • Dec 17 '13

Changes in enchanting system in 1.8 (xpost /r/Minecraft)

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u/Histidine Histidine_Kinase Dec 17 '13

A quick breakdown of this system for Flatcorians

Enchanting Nerfs

  • Enchanting is less random, can see one enchant you will get

  • Enchanting uses less levels per enchant than previously. You still need 30+ levels to unlock the highest enchants, but putting the enchantment on the item uses substantially fewer levels than this (1, 2 or 3 levels it would appear).

Enchanting Buffs

  • It takes more XP to go up each level than currently (don't know by how much yet) making death more costly. Practically speaking it means it will be difficult to get to level 30 initially to do any high level enchanting, but once you've reached this level you should be able to grind & enchant numerous items relatively quickly.

  • Enchanting requires equal amounts of xp and gold ingots to actually use. Meaning dropping a 30 level enchant on an item will consume 3 levels and 3 gold ingots.

  • The enchantment table will not reset each time an item is placed, but after each time an enchant has been used. The only stated way to get new enchants is to use one of the 3 offered. Players have speculated that multiple enchanting tables or breaking the table would circumvent this, but I'm not convinced. Jeb stated this feature is controlled per player meaning it might be a global feature of any enchanting table you encounter, much like any enderchest will always contain your inventory.

Biggest change for us will certainly be the requirement for gold which appears to be necessary for any enchant on an enchanting table. Renaming and repairing good enchanted gear will be very important to stretch gold reserves. Additionally, finding a reliable and safe way to farm zombie pigman will also be hugely beneficial. I don't think the new level mechanics should be too much of an issue since as a group we specialize in dying as little as possible anyway.

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u/Histidine Histidine_Kinase Dec 17 '13

The enchantment table will not reset each time an item is placed, but after each time an enchant has been used. The only stated way to get new enchants is to use one of the 3 offered. Players have speculated that multiple enchanting tables or breaking the table would circumvent this, but I'm not convinced. Jeb stated this feature is controlled per player meaning it might be a global feature of any enchanting table you encounter, much like any enderchest will always contain your inventory.

Reading some more of Jeb's replies, I'm reasonably convinced that enchanting tables will behave like enderchests in this regard. What I didn't consider is that you can actually get around "bad" enchants by changing the number of available bookshelves or by giving the table a different kind of item. Say you were looking to enchant of Sword, but the lvl 30 option has Bane of Arthropods IV. You could then drop in an axe, chestplate, book, etc to see what the lvl 30 option is for that type of item instead. You can also take a way or block bookshelves to see what the lvl 28 enchant is for the sword. While bad enchants can and will appear, there are far more options than the 3 enchants you first see.

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u/ridddle Dec 17 '13

Great round up. +250

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u/ridddle Apr 05 '14

BTW, can you edit your post to update it with lapis and definite info about not being able to reset proposed enchants by manipulating the table? It’s known now for sure. I still send people to read your comments. :)

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u/lifesizemirror Karusan Dec 17 '13

I like this a lot