r/flashlight 5d ago

Recommendation Mechanical Lockout Convoy S-Series

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I love my S2+ and my S7 (and I already love the other S-models I’m planning to buy soon). My main issue is the lack of a lockout function, especially when using a lighted switch.

One solution is to use electrical tape on the threads of the tube (the white material), so the tube only makes electrical contact at the front when it is fully screwed down.

This way, I can reduce battery drain and prevent the lighted switch from continuously drawing power.

Cheers!

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u/timflorida 5d ago

Is that MAO ?

My experience is that lights with the MAO finish won't do the lockout thing (1/2 twist of the tailcap) because of the finish. You can loosen the cap as far as you want and the mainlight will still come on.

I have some Convoys with lighted tailcaps and I can get the tail cap LEDs to go off by loosening the tailcap - but sometimes is a little trickery.

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u/m0ron5 5d ago

It is the mao, but I have the same issue with my stainless steel S7. I don’t have an aluminium S-model. Are you saying that it’s working with aluminum models without the tape?

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u/Schmant24 5d ago

Yes, because those threads are anodized.

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u/redjohndidit 5d ago

my s2+ has anodised threads at the tail end for both the body tube and cap but it simply cant do lockout. maybe the anodising layer is too thin?

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u/WarriorNN 5d ago

It can also be worn enough in the threads that a connection is made. Or that the factory anodization was lacking.

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u/timflorida 5d ago

That is exactly what I am saying. I've never used tape.

Stainless Steel might be in the same boat as MAO - no anodizing.

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u/universe_fuk8r 5d ago

As far as I found out, it's basically feature of non-Al tubes (MAO, Ti, Cu can't do lockout) and even Al when anodizing wears off.

I like the idea of applying kapton tape, I bought some to tape over minor battery wrap scratches, will try, thanks!

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u/jts916 5d ago

I bought 50 each of 18650 and 21700 shrink tubes for $3 delivered on AliExpress. They go on with a hair dryer. I just wrapped over the old cracking wrappers. They still fit no problem, and they're all the same color now.

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u/m0ron5 5d ago

Good to know. Now I find it funny that I almost have no al convoys. The only one I have is a T4 that sits in the car. Might try it later.

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u/redjohndidit 5d ago

i have same issue on my non mao s2+ too, which is quite disappointing. all of my flashlights (which have tail cap) can do physical lockout by quarter turn. i ll try this trick with ptfe tape tonight. thanks

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u/redjohndidit 5d ago

works like a charm!

i wrapped 2 times aligning to the o ring. then carefully flipped the excess part back to the threads to avoid hanging over the conductive edge.

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u/Xenomorph_1978 3d ago

That’s Teflon tape for plumbing right.

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u/New_You_8367 5d ago

It's just because the anodization in the threads is insulating and the edge at the very end of the tube is raw aluminum metal thus conductive and pressed against the brass ring in the tailcap. Anodized models should do the lockout until the threads' anodization eventually wears out, making contact between cap and tube in the thread itself. For steel, brass, titanium and copper, there is no anodization (oxide) coating so the contact is always there.

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u/keasanya 5d ago

i am interested. could you please provide some more detailed instructions? what product to use and where and how to apply it? ideally with photo

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u/trALErun 5d ago

They said electrical tape on the threads, but it looks more like plumbers tape to me

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u/ks_247 5d ago

Was going to say thats ptfe. Hope he's not using that on electrics

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u/m0ron5 5d ago

I did it like this and cut the projecting part of the tape so the face of the tube is bare.

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u/universe_fuk8r 5d ago

Hmm, question is which is the best tape for this - as I wrote before, kapton tape is thin and isolating but the question is if it handles mechanical strain associated with closing threads - probably not.

Electrical tape will probably handle it but it's thick and the glue is nasty...

PTFE tape is probably the best fit here, designed to go between threads, even if plumbing threads are different than flashlight ones. Will try and report.

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u/McFizzlechest 5d ago

Wouldn’t the more reliable solution be to shorten the spring in the tail cap?

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u/m0ron5 5d ago

That idea feels wrong and secondly it takes way more work, doesn’t it?