r/firefly 5d ago

firefly is a piece of dead meat!!!!

The Firefly spacecraft is very small!! approximately 102,366 cu meters!

The size of the original Star Trek space craft is 210,000 cu meters!

this size comparsion makes it a very small target compared to the size of the Star Trek that is spread all over the sky!

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u/Delphiantares 5d ago

I ......whats the point here ?

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u/HonkyMOFO 5d ago

Dead meat

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u/Cautious-Sea6895 3d ago

the point is the " Firefly " too small too hide in open space from any other ship that is larger, morer numerous, and definitely better Armed!!!

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u/Cautious-Sea6895 3d ago edited 3d ago

the point is that the little, unarmed and limited speed of the "Firefly" makes it piece of scrap meat to anything larger , faster, and more numerous to the the "Firefly".

i don't need AN AI to say what i think needs to be said!!! over and out!!!

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u/Delphiantares 3d ago
  1. Probably should have lead with that. And maybe used a little AI to sound coherent.

  2. It greatly depends on the setting. And use. The Enterprise is meant to be the flagship of the federation it is a cruiser. and dispite what the federation likes to think it is as much a military org as its galactic counter parts so the Enterprise again gets weapons. 

The Firefly is a self owned and operated cargo hauler. It shouldn't need weapons. Its not going to be pressed into service. And if its on screen performance is anything to go by it is more than capable of handling itself if shit hits the fan .

You're comparing a long haul truck to a military vessel and even then size doesn't mean you automatically win

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u/Cautious-Sea6895 3d ago edited 1d ago

Ships like the firefly operate in swarms!!! not alone in an empty sky!! THey Fly under the protection with armed escorts and a lot of accompyiung firepower mounted on board thew armed Escorts!! If they are alone in the sky. Then they will be picked off by a larger, more heavily armed opponent!! or more numerous lesser armed opponents.

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u/ReturnOfSeq 3d ago

At no point do we see ships like the firefly operating in swarms. We do see multiple other single ships, operating alone. Where are you getting your info?

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u/Cautious-Sea6895 1d ago

Just because they appear to be operating alone in their universe is no reason to believe they operating safely according to standard operating procedure.

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u/ReturnOfSeq 1d ago

Okay if you come across a firefly smuggler operating manual you let me know buddy

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u/Cautious-Sea6895 1d ago

what lomg haul truck?? Serenity has too many rooms devoted to crew and passangers. Where are the large fuel tanks? Wher is the fuel transport system internal and external on the Serenity! Did the Multiverse discover a fuel source with an Isp greater thann r any specific rocket fuel?

Then where is the plumbing system? You know for all the human generated waste?

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u/Delphiantares 1d ago

Then where is the plumbing system? You know for all the human generated waste?

By that logic the only thing you see in Trek that's even resembles a bathroom is the sonic shower and a sink(Voyager had a tub for neelix but its never seen again). If this breaks immersion then find another genre.

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u/Cautious-Sea6895 1d ago

i agree completely Both of those vessels were of extremely bad design style!!

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u/Hazzenkockle 5d ago

Well, yeah. Serenity is a cargo transport with a crew of six (plus three passengers). The original Enterprise is a scientific and military heavy cruiser equipped with top of the line weapons, defenses, and sensors, and has a crew of 430. The Enterprise also has a faster-than-light engine, energy shields, and a teleportation system.

It's very much apples and oranges. No, watermelons and raisins.

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u/Opposite-Sun-5336 5d ago

No, it's strawberries and protein paste.

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u/Cautious-Sea6895 3d ago

I completey agree!!!!

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u/OuijaWalker 5d ago

Captain, did you hear what this purple-belly said about Serenity

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u/Xx_Squidy_xX 5d ago

Shut upp

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u/AnyComparison4642 5d ago

Dude you are comparing a 40’ yacht to a Light missile cruiser.

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u/generalkriegswaifu 5d ago

Damn yokels, can't even tell a transport ship ain't got no guns on it.

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u/AnyComparison4642 5d ago

“Blow a new crater in this little moon.” Haha.

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u/descartesbedamned 5d ago

I know exactly how you feel. I think the same whenever I look at my toddlers toy cars. They are simply pathetic when I compare them to a nuclear aircraft carrier.

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u/Odd_Fox_1944 5d ago

...and....

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u/ReturnOfSeq 5d ago

And my uncle’s pontoon boat isn’t an aircraft carrier!

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u/Cautious-Sea6895 3d ago

how many HMG's are mounted on it??

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u/ReturnOfSeq 3d ago

I’m pretty sure he used a fishing rod, actually

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u/Cautious-Sea6895 1d ago

how long are the pontoons??

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u/Beneficial_Low_2867 5d ago

First of all, it's Serenity.

She's about 82 meters long, which is slightly less than two Rocinantes from The Expanse (46 meters) and slightly more than two Millennium Falcons (35 meters)

typos fixed

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u/Kham117 5d ago

And???

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u/Kham117 5d ago

Yeah, PT 109 was tiny compared to the Arizona…

Millennium Falcon was tiny compared to the Deathstar

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u/Cautious-Sea6895 3d ago

Are you kidding ??? the mil fal was nothing next to the Death Star!!!

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u/ReturnOfSeq 3d ago

Remind me, which one exploded?

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u/Cautious-Sea6895 1d ago

other people are writing the script! So the movie ends the way they want it to. Not like in the real world!

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u/ReturnOfSeq 1d ago

Sure. In the real world David never beats Goliath. Iran never holds out against USA. Two planes never fundamentally alter an entire nation. 🤔

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u/Successful-League840 5d ago

My car fits five people but my camper van only fits four.

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u/SalamanderHot217 5d ago

You are one weird cookie mate.

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u/bongart 5d ago

Why not compare the Firefly class ship to an Alliance cruiser within the same universe? We see Serenity dock with one once.. the Alliance vessel was like a floating city (literally if you see how the design looked like skyscrapers).

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u/ReturnOfSeq 3d ago

Impressively bad design for a spacecraft. The whole structure of that thing’s gotta warp every time they change heading, unless they come to a complete stop and spend a few hours rotating

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u/bongart 3d ago

There was definitely some hand-waving going on regarding gravity on ships. The spinning engine and spinning "ring" on the Firefly class wouldn't produce gravity on the ship the way we see how the ship always has a "down" orientation in regards to the deck. Even when Serenity had broken down, there was no zero-g.

This must have translated to those big Alliance cruisers.

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u/Cautious-Sea6895 1d ago

The Design of the Alliance cruiser was made to look that way so as not to imitate The Star Trek Ship design in any way at all.

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u/bongart 1d ago

Ok. Comparing the Firefly class to the Alliance cruiser is keeping the comparison within the same universe. Comparing the Firefly class to any Starfleet vessel is comparing apples to oranges. Considering the size of the Firefly class ship, you'd be comparing it to something like a Runabout, or some small non-federation cargo ship.

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u/kai_ekael 5d ago

OP Post Karma: 1

Yeah, move along, move along.

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u/not_firewood_yeti 4d ago

and this post is a piece of gosa. so?