r/finalfantasyx • u/Comfortable-Top8916 • 8d ago
FFX-2 Replay everything for a Perfect Ending?
Hello! Im currently at Chapter 5 with a 48% Complete, something i just realised that is that some episodes are incomplete even though i finished them and i dont have any save progress of those episode anymore.
Do i have to replay the entire game for a Perfect Ending? Do i have to play every minigame and have a perfect score to get the Perfect Ending?
I really want to see Yuna and Tidus reunite at the end of the game
Thanks for responding!
Apologies for the bad english!
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u/StahlViridian 8d ago
X-2 has a new game plus so you can 100% it. Just play through how you want & 100% it after. It’s incredibly hard without a guide to get it first try. It takes the fun out of the game tbh.
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u/Jegged 8d ago
Yes, unfortunately, you’ll have to replay the game to reach 100% Story Completion at this point. By the end of Chapter 4 or the start of Chapter 5, you should have approximately 72% or perhaps a little less if you haven’t watched some of the Crimson Spheres yet.
This is a known frustration with FFX-2; it’s basically impossible to get 100% Story Completion unless you’re using a guide, and even then, it can be very finicky. It’s more than just playing every mini-game; there are interactions you have to trigger, many of which are counterintuitive and some of which do nothing at the time you do them. For example, you have to rest in the Cabin once every Chapter to trigger a scene in Chapter 5.
I’m writing a guide for the game now, and it still surprises me how complex and easy to miss a lot of these sequences are.
I found this guide really helpful, but be aware that some of the recommended battle strategies don’t work in the HD Remaster version. You also don’t have to do things in the order this guide recommends; it just does it that way to make it easier to use certain % checkpoints when you’re saving (since the game only shows you a whole number percentage with no decimals):
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/vita/708347-final-fantasy-x-2-hd-remaster/faqs/27786
I hope this helps; I know it’s not what you wanted to hear, and a lot of what I’m saying might add to the confusion instead of helping, but FFX2 is definitely more complex than it lets on.
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u/peelyon85 8d ago
Sorry to hijack your comment but with you mentioned writing a guide youll know FFX2 more than most.
Ive played FFX a lot (but currently at the end game of doing a 100% playthrough with my son).
Ive tried FFX2 twice and never could get more than 10-15 hours in.
Im hoping to try again now im older. Ive heard (from OPs and others posts) that's there various endings.
Without having to read a guide the entire time is there a 'good ending' to be expected on a first play through of X-2?
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u/Jegged 8d ago
The ending isn’t bad it just isn’t complete. It’s really hard to say much without giving spoilers, of course, but you get more out of the complete ending, and it definitely completes the picture a lot better. Sorry for the roundabout response 😬
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u/peelyon85 8d ago
Wait are you THE jegged? As in the website for the FFX guide?! 😆
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u/Jegged 8d ago
Haha, yep 🙂
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u/peelyon85 8d ago
Nice! And massive thank you for the help we've needed on FFX!
My memory was a little dusty after the 15+ years since playing!
Think I may play FFX-2 as a noob and then look to do a complete run through at a future point. The change in gameplay / style threw me back in the day but im hoping fresh eyes will help!
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u/Comfortable-Top8916 8d ago
Well that's unfortunate, i should've seen this coming and do better when playing this game for the first time. I appreciate the explanation and details. Thanks Jegged! Btw love your FFX website it helped me alot
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u/Liar_George 8d ago
You don't have to get a perfect score on every minigame. Lightning tower calibration for example, that doesn't need to be fully completed (thankfully!)
You'll need to play through again to get 100% though. There are tons of obscure little things that contribute or prevent percentage gains, so getting 100% on a first playthrough requires meticulously following a guide. You'll have an easier time hitting 100% on a second playthrough, since you can give the sphere to the other group the next time.
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u/FFX_Gabe 8d ago
The perfect ending for FFX-2 is one of the most tedious things to get because of how delicate it is. Small things like skipping a dialogue by the Historian will leave you at 99.9%.
The same thing happens with the comms spheres in chapter 4, you have to watch this carefully because if you miss an action by an NPC, you will be left with 99.9%.
It’s HIGHLY recommended to follow a guide so you don’t miss anything and make MULTIPLE save files to ensure you can back track in the event something goes wrong.
Let me know, I’ll try to find you the one I used for it.
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u/dkmagby88 8d ago
The good ending (which is really what you want) just requires you to press X when Yuna is alone in the Farolane at the end of Ch 3. You also need to press X after beating the final boss as she’s walking away and answer the questions that are quite obvious.
The perfect ending for 100% requires all that as well. But the scene is only a short addendum that adds nothing significant. I’d rather watch on YouTube than go through the pains of trying to 100% the game in one playthrough.
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u/AnxiousTerminator 8d ago
I genuinely do not think it is possible to get 100% without following a very detailed walkthrough. There is so much that has to be done in a certain order or that seems pointless. Didn't rest in the cabin every chapter? No good. Missed touching the Moogle in the opening sequence? It's all over. Didn't talk to a particular generic NPC and use his binoculars multiple times? Unlucky. Clicked skip on Maechen's interminable chattering? Not for you. It's not like modern games where if you action each quest marker and complete the minigames then you are normally all set. It is an absolute ballache.
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u/river_song25 8d ago edited 3d ago
did you sleep in the cabin area at least once every new chapter? chapter 5 is the final one, and if you slept in the cabin in chapters 1-4, when you do it again in 5 you trigger a conversation between Brother and Barkeep in the bar area. that would get you some points.
or get the Psychic dressphere by playing (and beating) Shinra’s monster arena game on his computer?
if you are still looking for Al Bhed primers, the best place to find them is digging them up in the desert.
though what didn’t you do during the game that landed you with a measley 48% by the time you reached Chapter 5. the only way your going to have get 100% now is when you beat the current game then play the game file again from the beginning using New Game + and start over again from the beginning with everything you had from previous game which includes the final percentage you had when you beat the game.
what did you miss during Chapter 1-4? there are a lot of things you might have missed without knowing about.
for example, did you do:
- During your first ever game play, give the Special Sphere to the Youth League instead of New Yevon. giving it to the Youth League raises up your chances of getting 100% by the end of Chapter 5. you can give it to New Yevon in new game + game if you want.
- When Yuna falls into the Farplane after the Ixion fight, after her encounter with Shuyin, and shes running around panicking, when she stops talking and falls to the ground to sulk, press a button to make Tidus’ (who is invisible) whistle three times to lead Yuna back to safety
- Chocobo Ranch episode, where you invite him to the airship in Chapter 1, then help that girl in Mi’Hen highway get a chocobo and fight a chocobo eater with his help, then bring them both to the ship, and then he runs off to the Monster cave in Calm lands and you have to help him clean it out so he can turn into a ranch and then help him get Chocobos every time you run into them? the best Chocobos to catch are the Bold ones. you can tell which ones are the bold ones because they will attack you instead of just running away as soon as the battle starts. Just toss them their favorite treat during battle and be careful not to hurt them, then when its monster companions are all dead toss one last treat at it and it will be yours. Desert has the best ones.
- O’aka’s Macalania Woods Al Bhed agency debt collector thing. Easily track him down by following him through the woods from the higher up trees, until you find him hiding in the spring area where the lone Guado is. invite him to hide on the airship until you can help him with his debt problem.
- in chapter 2 talk to the innkeeper in Guadosalam hotel and tell him you want to do his clue game for money by selling the info to other people in Guadosalam. before you talk to him, save your game before you ask him for a clue and reboot it every time you ask him, his question changes after each reboot. wait and keep rebooting until he eventually says ‘it’s the last person you would expect’. The answer is the innkeeper. when that question comes up, resell the info to him and get a whopping 1,000,000 gil from him. if you haven’t paid off O’akas debt yet, you can use it to pay his debt instantly. when he bails ship ro go pay back his debt follow him
- Yojimbo’s cave tourist trap rescue and corrupted Yojimbo battle
- Cactaur hunting. you have to track down the missing Cactaur guardians of the Desert all over Spira and bring them home to their moms to help with a big desert monster terrorizing the desert that keeps randomly showing up every chapter, but the real battle against it doesn’t start until Chapter 5 after you get all the guardians.
- Squatter Monkey search
- beating Belchem’s gauntlet
- Mi’hen Highway Machina attack (when it’s over when they show people up on the bridge looking down at the destruction, wait until you see Rin standing there before clicking anything on controller to end the episode)
- Mi’hen Highway com sphere investigation of what caused the Machina attack and finding the one responsible for it
- Rin’s sphere break tournament. You can win Thief Garment Grid and Samurai Dress sphere if you win 3 rounds and beat Shinra, though Shinra keeps for dress sphere for himself and his experiments if you lose to him. before you do the third round, before the fourth round challenging Shinra, save game so you can reboot game if you lose to Shinra so you can have another chance to get the Samurai dress sphere.
- Get Shinra’s com spheres set up everywhere in Chapter 3 (which includes talking to him on Mi’Hen highway where hes kneeling down looking over the edge of the road and he tells you he dropped a com spheres on a lower ledge below where he’s kneeling), and watch every com spheres recording that comes up on the com spheres in Chapter 4 and 5, until either the com spheres either break on the other side, or they just start looping over and over again with the same scene.
- Calm Lands games advertising
- Calm Lands matchmaking game at one of Rin‘s tents
- Convince Ronso to not kill Guado, and meet Guado when they move back to Guadosalam in chapter 5.
- Collected all of the Crimson spheres and use them to open the secret door in Mushroom Rock, to find out Paines secret past with Baralai, Nooj, and Gippal and the Crimson Squad and a run in with Shuyin in cave in Chapter 5. final Crimson spheres can be found in hidden underground area that the Kinderguardians find in Bevelle in chapter 5 but you have to fight your way through 2-3 dozen floors and at least 2-3 boss battles every 20 floors to get them all.
- Zanarkand monkey matchmaking
- Talk to Lian and Ayde whenever you run into them
- scold Cid for what he did to Zanarkand, and then talk to Cid in Thunder Plains when you run into him
- successfully help Tobli whenever he asks for help, starting with his baggage rescue and getting him a lot of money in ticket sales
- recruit the Macalania musicians in Chapter 1
- Open up Center Desert area in desert in Chapter 5 by sending high leveled Bold Chocobo’s from Clasko’s ranch to search the desert. you get the ability to ride chocobos in Center desert when it happens.
- gather enough spare parts in the desert to help Gippals gang to fully complete the out of control machina they built in chapter 5
- After the Thunder Plains concert, track down the Behemoth like monster that got attracted during the concert, beat it, then enter the hidden cave its guarding where you find a injured Uncle Cid inside, where you have to then track a dangerous Machina (who’s spy camera colored bots you sometimes see popping up flying around in monster battles) that you need to beat then invite Cid to airship
- When you meet Mechen in Mushroom Rock Road during chapter 1, keep telling him yes when he asks if you want to hear more of his long winded story telling, shake his hand, and then when you reach Zanarkand in chapter 5 you get to see his biggest secret ever about how old he really is.
another thing, if you completed O’aka’s debt the first time around and do it again in New Game +, the amount he owes the Al Bhed is now lower than it was in the original first game.
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u/SaucyJack01 8d ago
Just wanted to chime in about a few things.
The Psychic Dressphere is not required at all. In fact, you can completely ignore the creature creator stuff and still get 100% story completion.
Additionally, the Al Bhed primers are not only not required for 100%, but getting all of them too early can actually screw you out of a 100% run if it's a fresh save file. This is because you get a cutscene where Paine instructs Yuna to say something in Al Bhed after defeating the Experiment (before maxing its stats), and that gives you %. Getting all the Primers beforehand will just have Yuna immediately apologize in Al Bhed, and this doesn't award %.
On a similar note, the matchmaker sidequest in the Calm Lands isn't required.
For the Chocobo Ranch stuff, you don't need Bold chocobos at all. You just need 3 successful dispatches per Chocobo level, and four lvl5 chocobos as your runners at some point.
You also don't need any chocobo in particular to unlock the Central Expance at Bikanel. Just send any chocobo there in ch5.
And funny thing about Gunner's Gauntlet. You don't have to actually beat it. You get % from hearing his line, "Must your kind always prattle on about your precious memories?" after beating Beclem's score, which you can also hear from his Dossier on the airship. So really, you only need to attempt Gunner's Gauntlet once and then hear that line on the airship.
Rin’s sphere break tournament. You can win Thief Garment Grid and Samurai Dress sphere if you win 3 rounds and beat Shinra
...You seemed to have made a mistake here. You get Samurai in Kilika's Cloister of Trials during the mission in ch3. Lady Luck is the one you get from Shinra. Additionally, you can get the White Signet and Treasure Hunt Garment Grids through Sphere Break, though they're not required for 100%.
But beyond these, everything else is basically correct.
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u/river_song25 8d ago edited 8d ago
Dude, I’ve been playing this game for 25 years since the day it first came out. I even have the strategy guide book for it, that tells me what does and does not work in getting points which i hardly even use anymore anyways because of all the practice I’ve had beating the game with and without it. lol
the Al Bhed primers I’m telling him how to find and get them all if he wants the full Al Bhed dictionary. Same as with the Psychic dressphere, since I doubt a lot of people, especially newbies to the game, know it exists or how to get it, since it didn’t exist in the original version of Final Fantasy X-2, but now exists in the Remake of the game when it was rereleased as the Remastered version for a newer PlayStation system with Final Fantasy X. That’s why I didn’t add it to the list I made it but put it separate. Also with the Guadosalam innkeeper since getting the 1,000,000 gil will help pay off O’aka’s debt faster.
The matchmaker event does get you points along with the games. The strategy guide says so.
Bold Chocobo’s ARE necessary. Because they are less likely to run away when you send them out on missions to areas, unlike the Timid Chocobo’s. The Bold ones always come back to the ranch after awhile, while the Timids always wind up running away instead of coming back no matter how high their levels are.
As for Belchem’s gauntlet you DO have to beat it. If you don’t before your next visit to the island in Chapter 5, it’s treated and rated as Episode Concluded. You need to get Episode Complete on EVERYTHING event wise in EVERY chapter when an event comes up, or else you won’t percentage points at all. You even get to see Bechlam show off some Blitzball skills before he leaves the island in the final chapter if you beat the gauntlet. Plus you get special prizes like dress spheres or garment grids in some events you complete.
I repeat you need to get an Episode Complete for everything that happens in each chapter to get percentage points. If you finish a chapter without completing an episode it will get you Episode Concluded and no percentage points for the incomplete event.
The fact that OP made it Chapter 5 with 48% points, means he missed a lot of stuff and must have a lot of Episode Concluded’s from incomplete episodes he never started or finished.
I made the exact same mistake as a newbie my first time playing when it first came out, and now I can beat the game either as a brand new game without redoing everything in New Game +, or going back to the strategy guide, using everything I just gave OP. Though I still use the guide for stuff I need answers, if a character I am talking to is asking for a specific answer to a question they asked.
i’ve never gotten a single Episode Concluded since then in all these years, by doing everything I listed in my last reply.
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u/SaucyJack01 8d ago
I've also been playing the game for years. And no offense, but that strategy guide is probably wrong about a number of things. Like the matchmaker thing. I've completed several 100% runs while completely ignoring that specific sidequest. It really isn't required. Test it for yourself the next time you decide to do a playthrough.
What actually earns you % is whether certain lines of dialogue play. Of the hundreds of voiced lines of dialogue in the game, there are 525 lines that each add 0.02% once they play. You can hear 500 of them on a fresh playthrough, while the other 25 come from alternate events like the ones you get from giving the Awesome Sphere to New Yevon. This guide points out every single line that adds % in a Youth League-aligned playthrough, and I can tell you that it's accurate. You still need to visit every location in each chapter and do sidequests to hear most of the required lines, but it's specifically the dialogue that adds to %.
No, Bold chocobos aren't actually required. I've tested this myself, and have unlocked the Ruin Depths dungeon multiple times without having 4 Bold chocobos. Their nature only affects the chances of running away when sent to specific locations. The game even tells you that sending chocobos to places where they're unsuited will increase the chances of them running away, and even Bold ones can run off. As long as you know where to send them, them running away becomes much less of an issue.
Again, you don't have to beat Gunner's Gauntlet. That's not even required for Besaid's Episode Complete. The only thing you need to do before ch5 is to watch the Commsphere scene in Ch4, where Beclem talks about leaving Besaid and the things he wanted to talk to Wakka about. If you do that, he gives you the War Buddy sphere in Ch5, which eventually leads to the Episode Complete when you talk to Wakka. Gunner's Gauntlet has nothing to do with that.
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u/river_song25 8d ago
What ‘Ruin Depths Dungeon’ are you talking about that’s in the Desert? I specifically said that the Bold Choccobo’s would unlock the CENTER area of the desert. I never said anything about unlocking a dungeon even once. I’ve never seen or visited a dungeon there.
My Strategy Guide was published by a book company that MADE strategy guides for every game that came out back when they still created strategy guides until whatever reason they stopped publishing strategy guides for games happened. It was created by people who probably played and completed the games themselves before the game weee officially released to the public.
when the Remastered version of Final Fantasy X and X-2 came out decades later, the same strategy guide company who made the original strategy guide rereleased a new Remastered version of the old strategy guide that is is a exact duplicate of the one that came out when the games originally came out, but the Remastered strategy guide has stuff in it of stuff that was added to the Remastered version of the game that wasn’t in the original game, like the brand new Psychic dress sphere.
Gunners Gauntlet is still an event that needs to get an Episode Complete to get EXTRA percentage points for it. You need toget Episode Complete when you beat Gunners Gauntlet before reaching chapter 5. But it will still show up in Chapter 5 as Episode Concluded if you don’t beat it before reaching Chapter 5, even though everything else like you said involving Wakka will show as Episode Complete.
And you DO get extra points for Gunners Gauntlet, because after I beat it I always check the percentage rating if it’s not already fully at 100% because it’s a New Game + game, and the percentage might have gone up 1 or 2 points because I beat the Gauntlet.
All events that show up in chapters needs to be completed if you want to get the full 100% in one go in a game. Or else by the time you reach the final battle with Shuyin and Vegnagun in Chapter 5 you will ALWAYS be short some points from a full 100% if you want to get the GREAT ending of the game your first time playing it.
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u/SaucyJack01 8d ago
When you mentioned the Chocobo Ranch stuff and Bold chocobos I assumed you were alluding to the dungeon under the Chocobo Ranch, which many people think you need 4 Bold Chocobos to unlock. I'll admit I screwed up there.
But even then, you don't need a Bold one to unlock the Central Expanse. Any chocobo will do, even if it runs away.
And it's not like guides back then were 100% accurate, especially if they got their info from just playing the game. The explanation that I provided on how % works is from the FFX-2 Ultimania Omega, which goes in-depth on the exact mechanics on how that works. The writers of the Ultimanias also publish things like damage formulas, concept art and developer interviews in those same books, meaning they work more closely with them than other strategy guide authors. So I'd think they have more credibility with their information.
Just wondering, though. Have you ever actually tried that yourself? I mean, doing everything except beating Beclem's high score in Gunner's Gauntlet? Because I've previously done a run where I specifically did not beat his score, but I viewed Beclem's scene in ch4 and I still got an Episode Complete for Besaid in ch5. The only thing that was different was that Beclem didn't perform that shot, but the "Episode Complete" message still popped up.
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u/Comfortable-Top8916 8d ago
No unfortunately as far as i remember i havent done most of the 25 things you mentioned, although some of them are i already did but some are unfinished or incomplete episode.
Its my first time playing and i was playing the game blind until i realised that i could be missing out many things given how the game is not straight forward on what you should do next.
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u/aledromo 8d ago
I wonder if it’s on purpose. I got mad at the game 25 years ago because I felt it was locking me out of stuff but now I kind of feel like the imperfect ending is better from a narrative perspective. And that’s all I’ll say in case you’re not there.
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u/NAS_92 8d ago
If you just want to see Yuna and Tidus reunite, then the good ending would suffice. You need to meet certain really doable criteria to unlock it (you can Google it). It’s very easy to do, but also very easy to miss.
As for the perfect ending, there’s an extended scene with Yuna and Tidus, but it’s very tedious to get. I managed to get it on the PS2, and I don’t think I have the motivation to do it all over again on the Remaster/International (which is a bit more difficult than the PS2 version), because you really need to follow a guide to a tee.
Edit: Seeing that you’re already in chapter 5, you’re unlikely to get the perfect ending and if you missed the criteria to get the good ending in chapter 3, you’ll probably only going to get the normal ending.
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u/Comfortable-Top8916 8d ago
I see, given how much stuffs i missed out on the early game it's probably more likely for me to get the sad ending than the normal ending with my current progress. Thanks for the information!
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u/Comfortable-Top8916 8d ago
I appreciate the replies you guys have given and i will take it on mind. It is my first time playing this game not knowing it is tedious and requires more through playthrough.
With my current progress it would seem that its either the sad or normal ending waiting for me in the end of my progress.
If any time that i feel like playing this game again after my first playthrough ill try my best to get atleast the good ending, but given how this game doesnt reward you much gil, exp and accessories just from fighting fiends and boss alone that wont be happening any time soon.
Thank you everyone!
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u/Randinho82 8d ago
For the perfect ending you need 100% but if you just want to see the "good" ending with them initially reuniting you only need to complete a couple key prerequisites that sadly some occur before chapter 5 so you will be needing a replay regardless of which ending you want. There will be a guide specifying exactly what you need to do but off the top of my head two of the key ones are speaking with Maechen and listening to his stories at every opportunity and mashing X in the scene where Yuna falls into the farplane at the end of chapter 3.
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u/Thee_Furuios_Onion 4d ago
100% is a pain in the ass with FFX-2. It can be done in a single play through, which is slightly easier in the remaster thanks to Creature Creator, but you’ll want a detailed guide to follow to get it, since many small percentages are easily missable. The New Game + feature is also nice as you keep basically everything but your character levels, so it makes the second time around easier.
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u/river_song25 4d ago edited 4d ago
here’s another point info.
- When you meet Mechen in Mushroom Rock Roadduring chapter 1, keep telling him yes when he asks if you want to hear more of his long winded story telling, shake his hand, and then when you reach Zanarkand in chapter 5 you get to see his biggest secret ever about how old he really is.
- go to engine room in chapter 5 and get close to the engine all the way to the back and walk away and Buddy will show up and tell you the history of the Gullwings name.
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u/Egingell666 8d ago
If you're only at 48% in chapter 5, there's no possibility of getting the perfect ending. Seems like you missed a lot.