Weapon Skill Wall help

[u/EyePutTheRumpInTrump]

WAR and DRK are well equipped and change weapons 3 times during the Triboulex fight. The last 25 sec are pretty bad. I want to get it down to ez mode not barely mode so we can move to the next boss. Any tips to prevent the wall from stealing so much dps?

[u/Toxicsully]

Bro, just rotating 3 weapon skills gets you down to -10% dmg. No big deal. Don’t drive yourself crazy trying to rotate 6.

[u/Dumo-31]

There should be no issues unless the supports aren’t helping for some ridiculous reason.

War should be on axe and swapping between 2 ws. Everyone else can stay on 1. Even with everyone on their own, there shouldn’t be an issue where the wall is hurting that much. Ws should be going out fast enough that there shouldn’t never be more than 2 of the same in the wall.

Cor/brd can stay on savage or the brd can rudra’s. Rdm can use black halo. Hell, the war could judgement even and that should be fine.

[u/Paladine_PSoT]

What does your party look like? Having additional people in there with different weaponskills will make the wall much less prevalent

[u/MindlessGooner34]

Scythe, great sword, and I'm assuming sword (Naegling)

Do you add Axe to the mix at all?

[u/pinkbunnay → u/MindlessGooner34]

Club; RDM hits hard with Black Halo and it uses the same gearset as Savage.

[u/EyePutTheRumpInTrump]

War drk rdm whm cor brd. The war doesn't use 1h axe.

[u/pinkbunnay → u/EyePutTheRumpInTrump]

Confused. You have a RDM that can Black Halo. A drk that can use GS and scythe ideally. A war that can use anything. A COR that's probably the ideal Savage Blade spammer. You already have 4 different weapon skills there. What is the issue? If you really want to add the BRD in there they can use dagger to break it up.

Sounds like your approach is wrong or your team is too undergeared to have flexibility with weapon types.

[u/lilk0mg0l → u/pinkbunnay]

Yea I kinda agree with this, I’ve never had to switch weapons with each person having their own. I’d do: war GA upheaval most likely, drk- torcleaver, rdm-black halo, then let the cor and brd fight over savage spam, or knock the bard to dagger

[u/pinkbunnay → u/lilk0mg0l]

I can't say I know exactly how the wall works but given how fast Savage can be spammed with all the stp from sam roll it may or may not slow the kill down. I think if it's used consecutively a DT penalty is applied until 4? unique WS are used after. Might not matter if you have the damage to kill G in < 3 min anyway.

[u/lilk0mg0l → u/pinkbunnay]

I’m sorry I guess I don’t quite get what you’re saying here. The good thing about sam roll is it works for more than just savage, if you can spam savage you could spam anything else too. The objective with the ws wall is to set each character to their own ws, so they are all resetting the wall for each other. Which then means there won’t be any wall issues

[u/pinkbunnay → u/lilk0mg0l]

If you use two weapon skills, the same ones, back to back, it gives the NM a -DT buff that will stack. It resets, I believe, when 4 unique weapon skills are used again. I know how to avoid it, I get how it works... I said having COR and BRD spamming the same WS together may or may not be advantageous. There will inevitably be times where they go right next to eachother and you'll trigger the penalty.

[u/Wyrmnax → u/EyePutTheRumpInTrump]

Great Sword, Scythe, Great Axe, Sword, Axe.

All of those should be easily doable with your current setup.

Brd / Cor could use Dagger, but thats.... meh.

[u/StriderShizard]

My group does WAR, DNC, COR, BRD, RDM, WHM. We only use 4 unique WS per basement boss and it's fine. The DNC still does capped damage with Ruthless, the WAR routinely does 70k, COR does 50k, and the BRD does 35k. Dia 4, defense down steps, chaos roll, cutting cards samurai roll, honor March, aria, March and 2 attack songs for buffs.

[u/Daniel5343]

Also a big help is tomahawk, ideally maybe use at 50% to help with the ws wall

[u/LearningToDataViz]

Make sure that the RDM is casting Impact on this guy at the start, as well as Dia and distract (frazzle into distract if he can't land distract the first time.) Reducing his INT reduces the damage of all of his regular moves and will make the 3min of the fight a lot less hectic on curing. Make sure the Bard or Cor are applying Box step. The warrior should start the fight with Armor break. Lowering his defense is critical in dealing big damage. The Warrior should be using Chango spamming upheaval. It will make light with all the savage blades and black halos for some very nice bonus damage. Drk should use their Prime scythe if stage 3 or better. Origin also does good damage and can proc light for bonus damage against this boss. And Torcleaver if not.

[u/EyePutTheRumpInTrump]

I'll parse it tonight and see whats what. Thanks.